Astral Learning

[Kitsune]

  I was in my Martial Arts class (Ji Do Kwan Family Style Tae Kwon Doe) when I thought of something... Would it be possible to sort of 'download' entire languages, martial art styles, and other huge packages of information from the Astral Plane, or another individual on the Astral Plane.
  In "The Matrix" Neo was able to download Kung Fu from The Matrix. Would that be possible in real life? Just having someone 'send' you the information, or simply downloading it from the very ether of the Astral Plane.
  Not just Martial Arts, or Languages, but how to do certain things, like Telekinesis, Teleportation, and other things like that.
  Do you guys thinks it's possible? Or is it merely a matter of finding someone willing to give you such information?

[bounda]

well, have you heard the inner voice robert peterson talked about in his first book... maybe if u asked him he could help?

[Lucid_Learner]

Hmmm... interesting.

I've read about people having "infinite knowledge" experiences where they knew everything for brief periods (or so they claim).

But through the astral realm... thats a totally different concept.

I know you can learn things from your spirit guides but I always thought they were lessons that your spirit guide thought best for you.

Anything is possible though 

[Kitsune]

  Ya, lol, there is that rule that 'Anything' is possible. So I guess it would work. But would be what YOU thought it was, and not the actual physical plane information? I'll have to try it.
  I hear a voice, lol, I don't know if it's an innner voice or what. It tells me what's gunna happen, or like, kinda tells me what to do in a quick thinking situation. Spirit Guide, Dead People, Insanity, I don't know. I'll have to make a topic for it... lol
  But ya, it is possible I suppose. I wonder though, do any of you guys AP and are willing to try it?

[kiwibonga]

Your ability to learn while out of body is pretty much the same as your ability while in the physical world -- you are told or shown something, and you memorize it ; you can choose to exercise it to become better at it, as well...

The amount you can learn depends on how much "subjective time" you can stay out, and how good you are at not discarding the memories of your experiences.

The difference, though, is that telepathic communication (from your teacher to you) can be high volume, and instantaneous. Of course, you need to be able to process large amounts of data at once, which typically requires a substantial amount of frequent flyer miles, if you know what I mean.

[Sunn]

easyjet?

[Kitsune]

  So then once I actually manage to AP, it's possible? Or atleast, after a few times.

[Selski]

So then once I actually manage to AP, it's possible?

Yes, but highly improbable as detailed in Kiwi's post.  I would imagine it would be like being shown in a nanosecond how a piece of classical music is played and how it all works, the reading of the music, the myriad of instruments involved and how to play them all, the conductor's role etc etc etc.  In a nanosecond.  And this when you are tone deaf and have never even played the triangle.

At the time, it will make perfect sense.  You will have a sense of knowing that is unshakeable.

Once back in the physical, your brain won't be able to comprehend the vast amount of information it has just been given to download and you'll forget most of it.

That's how it is with me anyway.  I've had dozens of conversations with all sorts of people on the astral and at the time it all made perfect sense and was amazing.  I get back and *poof* - it's gone.

Sarah

[BadCookie]

hmmm..... I need help with college algerbra

[bounda]

hmmm..... I need help with college algerbra

lol... yea this would be pretty cool, maybe if the amount of info wasnt so vast, we could remember it all. or maybe we could just take small pieces at a timee.. jsut my 2 cents

[Lucid_Learner]

hehe.... yer a little psychic assistance with my GCSE's wouldn't go a miss either 

So learning in the astral and returning is a bit like waking from a dream and not being able to recall it all??

Also can you imporve the recall so you remember the entire experience?

[Psionic]

Why don't you try to remeber instead of learning from scratch? One thing you should know is this: if one soul it, we all know it since we are GOD and we are all connected.

One word of advice: accessing information through meditation or OBE is a lot of hard work and it ma y take a long time before you access the information.

I am thinking of giving it a try since I am interested in knowing about my "past incrarnation" and possible "future incarnations" and Spiritual Mastery.

[Psionic]

I've read about people having "infinite knowledge" experiences where they knew everything for brief periods (or so they claim).

This once happened to me last year while using a meditation technique to meld completely with my Higher Self". The experience is very, very mind-boggling. In this state of conciousness, every problem you have no matter how big it is, suddenly does not matter. You feel like living here on earth is just like being an actor in a movie, like the character you are playing does not reflect who you really are.

[Kitsune]

Not to be cocky, but I can do whatever I set my mind to! ^_^

[Lucid_Learner]

your not being cocky... as everyone can once they believe they can 

Interesting experience psionic, have you met your higher self in the astral realm?

Also is the higher self the same as a spirit guide?

[WindGod]

It would be great to be able to go somewhere, study some advanced science and return while retaining the information.

The only thing I can think of learning from inner experiences is all visual. Form and design, abstract geometry of hypnogogic imagery can be vividly realistic and inspirational.

ANd auditory! Listening to symphonic music, and recently I learned a song, the voice sounded like someone singing next to me and a chorus followed. Upon waking, my memory was a bit hazy, later, I had the opportunity to meditate in the morning, and then I gained full recollection of the dream, trip, AP, whatever it was, is an inspiration, so I did learn something positive from the inner experience.

Eh Sarah, I think I've experienced something similar, a conversation that felt, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah wow!, then later I was thinking just duhhhh. I guess it's encouraging to have something to look forward to but slightly frustrating at the same time.

[Lucid_Learner]

I was thinking, you know how you can AP.. then from there you can enter the Mental realms and so on and so on... well eventually you would reach the source.

This would mean that you could tap into infinite amount of knowledge, of course you would have to have reach such a place and that could very very hard to reach. Just a thought though.

Anyone any expansions on this "Theory Of Cosmic Consciousness" I like to call it 

[Vvid1012]

I would say its possible to pull off a "matrix download" of information and learning...however not by means of astral projection.  If learning is just connection upon connection of various symbols and emotions...and given how malleable the brain/memory is.. I believe the brain could be rerouted for such a cause through some form.

I also have experiened this mental state where the energy level your mind is on seems to permeate everything and all connects resulting in this beautiful course of just knowing and all makes absolute sense.  BUt yeah, once I pop back into physicality, all I can think is ..huh?  Perhaps we have not yet evolved enough to understand such concepts on our normal basis.

[Enoch]

I am sure astral projection will take you where you need to go...At the least it will open up your senses to be able to have the "download".

[Lucid_Learner]

Definately, once you've done it your bound to be more aware anyway.

I mean once you've been to the 5th dimension you will really see through this 3 dimensional physical world. It must be really eye opening, third eye opening 

[Enoch]

Dont look at it as something you need to learn...Just something you need to remember.
The matrix download is to much to fast. You want to be concious and precise with each step...learning by reading or indeed a "download" would be nice. But the application is where you gain the knowledge.

[kiwibonga]

I recommend that you read Monroe's books -- he often talks about what he has nicknamed "ROTEs" or "thought balls" ; it's possible to give a copy of your memory or part of your memory to another entity, and that entity can "play it back" instantly like a video tape.

At early stages of development, you would do better to seek wisdom from other entities in a dialogue-like setting rather than aiming for "ultimate god consciousness."

Also, remember we are here on earth to experience. Ultimate knowledge of everything does sound tempting, but just think about it -- once you have it, will you care at all to use it? You'd probably end up regretting it. Heck, maybe you've already done it and chose to forget it all

[Lucid_Learner]

Interesting take on all of this Kiwi it's very possible.

We force ourselves to suppress the knowledge because our mind can't handle ithing along those lines.

I just wanna meet up with my Higher Self/ Spirit Guide and get learning my lessons.   

[Enoch]

It is an amazing experiance....

[Lucid_Learner]

Have you met up with your spirit guide/ higher self Enoch??? I would be fascinated to hear about it.