Great explanations on proper meditation

[Tiny]

Dear folks,

I wanted to share this with you.

This is probably the best explanation of proper meditation I've ever come across.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QpbzxHta_0&feature=related


kind regards,

Paul

[personalreality]

This guy sounds exactly like my boss when he 'channels' some enlightened master.  Exactly.  Creepy.

Anyway, transcendental meditation was a big fad some years ago I think.

When I was like 18 I was researching a metaphysical university based on this guy and transcendental meditation.

I really liked how he talked about meditation and self-discovery too.

[Tiny]

It'll always be the most healthy meditation there is that beats any system of meditation since it transcends them all. It can be coined many names but I'll call it proper meditation or passive meditation.

Here's a more scientific view on proper meditation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l41mBbn4ho&feature=related



kind regards,

Paul

[Stookie]

When you truly hit that "transcendental" state, you're not meditating anymore. You've even transcended it.

[NEW_Anna]

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[Xanth]

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Critique be voiced in a mature way.

[soli]

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[Chubysnow]

THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE GOOD STUFF!

[Tiny]

TM is a cult, all about making money and controlling the minds of people. Don't be fooled by the "meditation" bit.

I will agree with this. I have always felt that there is something fishy with the organizations associated with TM today.

I've read of people who've been mentally damaged by these organizations. It looks to me like there is definatly some kind of mind-control involved.
No wonder the ruling elite highly promotes them.

However, i think the idea itself of teaching something that is not a system and can only happen naturally is fundamentally flawed. Maharishi did a great job of describing the process of proper meditation properly however any effort to teach this to another is a counter-productive step in my opinion.

Many times I have tried to teach myself proper meditation and it always resulted in utter failure and I always came to the conclusion that I could only let it happen naturally. Any pattern any habituation is a culprit to the practice of meditation. One can not learn or own meditation like one can own a skill for playing an instrument.


Folks, if you plan to fill my threads with spam and flame in the future, save your energy and time. Other threads may be but my threads are no kindergartens.



kind regards,

Paul

[soli]

Folks, if you plan to fill my threads with spam and flame in the future, save your energy and time. Other threads may be but my threads are no kindergartens.

nah, my spam was only exactly synonymous to your "It'll always be the most healthy meditation there is that beats any system of meditation since it transcends them all." spam. Maybe you need to edit your own post then or you can just simply continue to exploit a bug on the forums to censor others while you parade systems that aren't yours inappropriately

[personalreality]

SPAM!

Tiny is stupid, his posts are lame, no one likes to read them.  

Everything you say is wrong.

FLAME!

Go hunt witches somewhere else.

How can we expect to have civil communication with no order, no hierarchy of control in this forum.  If everyone just went around and modified whatever is in-congruent with their posts what the hell is the point of a forum.

Stop being a baby Tiny.  Learn some humility and be the bigger person or leave.

Your one man crusade against the evils of Astral Pulse is little more than elitism and a pitiful person struggling for martyrdom.  You're not the white knight riding in on his horse to save the kingdom.  You are not the only one who knows "truth".  You need to accept that others are capable of complex thought and have experience to share.

Get over yourself, I'm tired of your "Anti-Trolling" Campaign.

[Xanth]

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Critique be voiced in a mature way.

TINY...

You have ZERO right to edit our posts.
You're abusing a forum BUG.

If you cannot abide by the forum rules, please leave these forums alone.  Posting here opens you up to constructive criticism.  If you can neither handle this criticism or are offended by it... I highly suggest deleting your account and moving to a more passive approach to reading the forums.

You have finally stepped over the line.


~Ryan

[Chubysnow]

Hey Tiny, come on...
Knowing myself I probably said something humorous, but now I don't remember what I said and it is gone forever!

[Capt. Picard]

Ah cool a bug i gotta start a thread

[Chubysnow]

I remembered, lol
Nice to have a sense of humor...

[soli]

so like, transcendental meditation is awesome - http://www.suggestibility.org/

[Capt. Picard]

lol, of course TM is a load of crap. Even the Beatles stopped hanging out with Mahareshi or whatever he's called because apparently he was a womanizer and misogynist. The meditation's negative side effects aside, the financial cost just to learn the meditation is ridiculous. Now TM's leader wants to build schools around the world where he teaches people how to fly... physically... I think I heard one of his schools was in the Canadian maritimes somewhere, but me personally, i think he is full of crap as are his TM teachings.

[Psilibus]

I gave up on preaching about meditation. My earliest posts left me a bit disillusioned about the overall attitude toward meditation in these forums. I truly appreciated the practices as described in "The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" by Sogyal Rinpoche. There has been no other reliable way to AP as this for me and the practice has multiple benefits depending on how devoted you are to the practice.

That being said I am still struggling with "phasing" and will get back to pondering Franks PDF.

[Xanth]

My earliest posts left me a bit disillusioned about the overall attitude toward meditation in these forums.

The overall attitude?
I must admit, I'm a tad baffled by that statement. 

That being said I am still struggling with "phasing" and will get back to pondering Franks PDF.

I'm actually struggling a bit as well at the moment... mostly due to lack of practice-time though. LoL

~Ryan

[Bacterio]

I gave up on preaching about meditation. My earliest posts left me a bit disillusioned about the overall attitude toward meditation in these forums. I truly appreciated the practices as described in "The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" by Sogyal Rinpoche. There has been no other reliable way to AP as this for me and the practice has multiple benefits depending on how devoted you are to the practice.

That being said I am still struggling with "phasing" and will get back to pondering Franks PDF.

One should follow the path that looks good for oneself. I read the Tibetan Book if Living and Dying and it's a nice reading but lots of thing don't match with me. But it doesn't mean it is good or bad, it's just is not good for everybody, so don't struggle with the attitude of others...all roads go to Rome.

[Psilibus]

No I don't' struggle with the attitude of others  . I gave up recommending meditation because it sparked controversy of the "new agey" concept 

And yes, I did not mean the book was good or bad. I stated the meditative practice described therein was one of the better methods that has worked for me toward achieving purposeful conscious projection. Sheesh. See what I mean? Just trying to stay on topic. I can get quite tangential at times. Sleep deprivation.

[Xanth]

No I don't' struggle with the attitude of others  . I gave up recommending meditation because it sparked controversy of the "new agey" concept 

And yes, I did not mean the book was good or bad. I stated the meditative practice described therein was one of the better methods that has worked for me toward achieving purposeful conscious projection. Sheesh. See what I mean? Just trying to stay on topic. I can get quite tangential at times. Sleep deprivation.

Meditation has so many extra benefits associated with it.  It's a shame that you'd come to the conclusion of not suggesting it to people anymore.

~Ryan

[personalreality]

I just did a unit on mindfulness and meditation in my psychology of religious experience class.

Spiritual practice aside, mindfulness and meditation are fantastic for your health.  All kinds of health benefits.

[Psilibus]

LOL. That is and has always been my point. You guys/gals crack me up. I have been practicing meditation since I was a child. Learned initially from Rosicrucian teachings. I have found the Buddhist tradition to be more simplistic yet powerful. There is such a host of exercises that can be performed it is silly that it is not taught in grade school.

If anyone is interested, I am willing to construct a post of meditative techniques which may be beneficial to newbies or current practitioners alike. Is there already a thread or sticky on this topic? I am sure I could learn as much from others as I could instruct. Franks phasing is really just a form of meditation. No flames please. Really, though, that is why I am attracted to that particular practitioner. That is why I began posting here. There is a simplistic practice with established terminology that nearly anyone can understand. I think when someone hears "phasing" they get it but don't get it at the same time. It is an intuitive process which is natural. As natural as going to sleep. As natural as creating a masturbatory fantasy (no, really, say you never did that). As natural as planning your next days activities. Varying degrees of a meditative practice that many are unaware they are doing. And all is directly related to developing the skills for "phasing" or "astral projection" or "OBE" or whatever you want to call it.

Anyone?

[Capt. Picard]

Sounds like a good idea, Im always open to new beneficial styles of meditation.