Marijuana = Shields down?

[Tiny]

I only started considering using Cannabis about 5 weeks ago.

I have a small range of physiological problems, including tight shoulders, tight forehead and eyes for various reasons.

I found that taking Cannabis helps me a lot to relax mind and body.

My idea is not to take Cannabis every day and forever, but to use it as a starting-boost and end up learning to let-go naturally and no longer needing the substance to get there.
Cannabis seems applicable for that idea because it leaves no bodily addiction.

I happen to believe that when used with care and responsibility that one can derive the positives of this drug, but I have a concern.

When I'm high on it, it feels like my Etheric Body is greatly expanding outwards, my brown chakra is stimulated and my legs vibrate. I don't feel foggy in my mind, I see my thoughts manifesting in pictures, the well known Marijuana effect of that it's helping to "work things out".

While undoubtedly Marijuana has great health benefits on the physical body I worry that it can weaken my etheric shielding.

It is clear to me that Alcohol does, strictly said, take down our etheric shielding and this is why i'm also strictly staying away from it, even though the relaxing effects might be nice sometimes. This is a critical point of where a drug's negative effects outweigh the positives for a person like me who wants to stay etherically and spiritually as pure as possible.
I know it from my relatives, they smoke cigs, smoke Marijuana and drink.
Having done the first two they appear normal but as soon as they start drinking, they progressively lose themselves and it seems that foreign energies or even beings begin to take great influence on them.

I fear that Marijuana might just do the same, that it might open my energy bodies up in a way that it would drop my energy shields, allowing beings and parasites from the Astral and etheric realms to attach to my energy bodies or even worse, attach somewhere where they can actively program or even steer my mind and affect my thinking.
I have so far only been high on it for about 8 times, not more and hence i'm asking.


I would like to hear qualified opinions from those of you who have experiences with Marijuana and who have a good knowledge about the Etheric body.


Thank you so much.

[kurtykurt42]

I consider the etheric body to be composed of stable and highly structured etheric matter, rather
like a complex and detailed ice sculpture compared to the more fluid types of subtle matter
generated during a projection.

In its contracted state (when the physical body is fully awake) the etheric body is surrounded by
a dense sheath, commonly called the vitality sheath, which acts both as an energetic storage layer
and as a protective barrier. It shields the sensitive interior from intrusive external energies,
atmospheres, and influences. The etheric body will normally only loosen this dense shieldlike
structure when it expands during sleep or during the trance state (in varying degrees, depending on
the depth of trance attained).

Fully expanded, it appears to begin absorbing fine energetic radiations — universal or cosmic
energy? chi? prana? — from the universe around it. The energy exchange ports covering the skin of
the physical body, especially in their expanded sleep state, seem to flower during this expansion and
become able to absorb and condense subtle energy radiations, trickling them into the etheric body's
vitality storage areas.

This process of etheric body expansion and refinement leaves neither the physical body nor the
original copy of mind, memory, and consciousness energetically vulnerable during sleep or
projection. In its expanded state, the etheric body seems to become far more sensitive to intrusive
energies, and forms something like an energetic perimeter alarm around the sleeping physical body.

I believe the underlying purpose of all subtle bodies, including the very densest of them, the
etheric body, is to allow the animating spirit consciousness to manifest through a living flesh-and blood
being. The subtle bodies hold the essential spirit firmly inside the physical body, thus binding
it inside the dimension of matter and hard experience. Etheric matter can thus be thought of as a
gluelike, bioenergetic vitality substance, binding and sustaining the animating spirit in its physical
body. This allows the spirit to manifest and express itself in the physical dimension, while still
allowing it to maintain firm energetic links with all of its higher levels of existence through a spectrum of higher and progressively more refined subtle bodies.

-Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce

So the bottom line is no, smoking marijuana will not weaken your etheric shielding. If you feel that your Etheric Body is greatly expanding outwards then that means you are absorbing and condensing subtle energy radiations and sending them into the etheric body's vitality storage areas. It's usually better to do this with out the help of drugs, but i guess everyone's different.

[Tiny]

So the bottom line is no, smoking marijuana will not weaken your etheric shielding. If you feel that your Etheric Body is greatly expanding outwards then that means you are absorbing and condensing subtle energy radiations and sending them into the etheric body's vitality storage areas. It's usually better to do this with out the help of drugs, but i guess everyone's different.

But would not that mean that since my expanded aura absorbs more subtle energy radiations, that also attacks could be easier conducted, subtle-energies that are designed to have a negative effect on my etheric field and then directed at me?

I actually read that various humanoid ET species have engineered diminished Auras for themselves, allowing them to protect better against attacks of programming (through subtle-energies) on their field.

Whoow, sliding off here.

Well, what do you think is the reason that Alcohol seems to kill of people's shields afterall?

What is it in alcohol that allows so easily for foreign beings and foreign energies to have such a huge impact, or even begin to steer the drunken person?

Generally speaking, my fear is that since drugs tend to shut down hindering barriers, one could assume they also shut down protective barriers. But does Marijuana shut down one's shields? I do not think that we can generalize drugs.

[kurtykurt42]

It all depends on how much energy body development and meditation you are doing. If you are closed minded and watching horror movies all day then smoking marijuana might attract negative entities. But if you are a good person who meditates daily, eats healthy and has positive energy then nothing will shut down your shield. It all depends on the individual.

[Tiny]

It all depends on how much energy body development and meditation you are doing. If you are closed minded and watching horror movies all day then smoking marijuana might attract negative entities. But if you are a good person who meditates daily, eats healthy and has positive energy then nothing will shut down your shield. It all depends on the individual.

So you're saying it all comes down to LOA and that I could not get any etheric parasites as long as I'm focused on attracting positives.

I must say I have quite found the opposite happening these days. Good willed people suffer the most, seem to be targeted systematically.

My question remains, would Marijuana open some doors in my field that IN THEORY made my etheric field more vulnerable to attacks, attachments, energy vampirism etc.

[OneMansJourney]

I find marijuana to be great for discovering insights that I wouldn't have thought of before.

I feel like it was put here to experience different perspectives.  Every time I am high I can see everything I do from a different perspective and it helps me get my ideas straight sometimes.

There's also times when I'm high and I'll be laying down or relaxing and I can feel my energy body with a great intensity.  I had a good informative thread going but someone very against pot ruined that.

If you'd like to read my experience I also posted it on my website below.

[radman32]

i think cannabis would lead the spirit in the right way, because it highlights the OBE process, and stimulates that, via calming the mind, protecting the body, and slowing the thoughts, ya know. I personally feel that cannabis use regularly, like monthly is good, but if it becomes too often then it can mess up the AP process. So don't over use.
Alcohol on the other hand stops and harasses other bodily process that in turn interfere w/ AP process, so it's obviously not recommend for that reason and others.

[radman32]

ONEMANSJOURNEY, how often do you smoke? Do you feel your conscience is clear enough to have a strong AP journey? How often do u experience AP? I definitely agree w/ you that it helps w/ ethric body as well, but i'm not positive that i was able to AP because cannabis led me to inconsistencies in life, and would be same for AP experiences.

[kurtykurt42]

It doesn't seem that Tiny is concerned about the effect it will have on AP but the effect it will have on the "energy shield". But i agree with you, if you smoke and try to AP it doesn't work.  Also, i end up never having any dreams either.

[Blue Giant]

First off, great post! I have pondered this issue for years on end. I experimented with marijuana and found that my experiences can be quite profound, but in a different ballpark than astral projection or obe's. Marijuana is a sedative. There are different strains as well. Indica's target your body to relax (relax like a "stone") and sativa's are generally notorious for giving you a cerebral "high". None the less, both will give you something, but will take something in return. 
Be aware of how your body feels after "coming down". When I smoked, I didn't project nor be aware of any dreams. It would be lights out when I hit the pillow and would wake up not remembering a thing from dreams. When I stopped...it all started to come back the very next day...hmm reminds me of your intuition with the effects of alcohol ( in which I fully agree ) I tried this a couple of times (years in between) and noticed the exact same results, which lead me to think that these results are for me and may not apply to others!
Radman32 knows it! "Cannabis led me to inconsistencies in life" which also ties into the advice of it becoming problematic if smoking it "becomes too often".

Take care,

Blue Giant

[radman32]

i just had a huge conversation w/ someone important to me about cannabis use and i was just wondering if u guys think that any use of pot is acceptable?

To answer the original question, i personally want to believe that it makes me safe from darn parasites and negative entities, but i haven't come to prove it.

I have a question about pot though, do u think that because of it's effects on easily opening the etheric body, and obtaining energy, that during 12/21/2012 that it will give them the capabilities to ascend, for it'll require the energy to lift off!???

[Tiny]

To answer the original question, i personally want to believe that it makes me safe from darn parasites and negative entities, but i haven't come to prove it.

That would be darn nice.

I should have dropped this in the Energy Body development forum but this here has way more views 

The last thing I read about Cannabis in another forum was people saying it causes spiked edges in one's aura and leaves a haze over the aura for a week.


The physical effects of Marijuana are so great but is it right the opposite with the going-ons with the Etheric body?

[Xanth]

"Those who can, do... those who can't, smoke."
That's my quote from now on regarding anyone asking about using Pot to achieve altered states of consciousness. 

I've said it several times already on this forum, but I'll say it again.

You've chosen to embark upon a journey of, quite literally, epic proportions.
By using drugs, you're cheapening that journey.  You're skipping all of the valuable lessons that you would have otherwise learned.

You know the saying... "The Journey is more important than the destination."
Don't skip the journey by using drugs, because that's the part you're supposed to experience and learn from.

[Blue Giant]

Hehehe... I was just about to bring that up Tiny. I haven't been able to say that I've seen auras with spiked edges around those who have smoked, but I can say that it does shrink it. Oh and they don't call a dope strain HAZE for no reason

Xanth...I love that quote and I am to going to live by that

Wow...indirectly this post has helped me out with some contradictory realities pertaining to dope. Thanks for that!!!

[Tiny]

Hehehe... I was just about to bring that up Tiny. I haven't been able to say that I've seen auras with spiked edges around those who have smoked, but I can say that it does shrink it. Oh and they don't call a dope strain HAZE for no reason

Xanth...I love that quote and I am to going to live by that

Wow...indirectly this post has helped me out with some contradictory realities pertaining to dope. Thanks for that!!!

It shrinks the aura? That is very interesting, just as I thought it would do right the opposite!

Atleast when I'm high on it, i feel double broad...

if it shrinks auras i think that's a good thing   

[radman32]

ok, so what does it mean if your aura has spiked edges or shrunken? Does this pertain to all cannabis use? or does it fade? jw, and maybe that visual means something .. ?

[Tiny]

ok, so what does it mean if your aura has spiked edges or shrunken? Does this pertain to all cannabis use? or does it fade? jw, and maybe that visual means something .. ?

I have absolutely no idea but it's what they said. But you know, a lot of people claim a lot of things and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about, especially when they don't give reasoning to their 1-line claims.


However, if Cannabis really causes the Aura to shrink then I think we're talking about serious protection from attacks of subtle energies and programming.


I found a nice videoclip of a speech of Cathy O' Brien, victim of Gov. Mindcontrol programs.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=28170259


It is a known that LSD for example has been used in mindcontrol programs, and it was probably also created for this purpose, since it's inventor Albert Hoffmann was a swiss scientist allied to the Nazis at that time, who were well known as the pioneers of mindcontrol research, just before the end of the war. Then of course allied forces took over, captured stuff and the CIA started carrying on the Nazis' mind-control research, unfinished business, you know 

If what Cathy says is true and Marijuana helps us to expand and break free from our programming, then it is a very clear case why Alcohol is legal and Marijuana isn't.

[Tiny]

Found an article,

sounds very dire! 

http://www.conscioushealing.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=43

[Xanth]

A spiky aura generally means that your state of mind isn't quite normal.
You want a nice smooth aura usually.

Stuff like alcohol can cause the spiky aura.

[Blue Giant]

Great article Tiny! I find that my bias is jaded and that the shrinking feeling is actually the depletion of energy due to overuse. However...this new article makes me beg to differ;)

[Tiny]

So you people think that it isn't even worth taking for medical uses in responsible doses?

[CFTraveler]

So you people think that it isn't even worth taking for medical uses in responsible doses?

I thought the original  question was whether it affects the etheric body?

[Tiny]

I thought the original  question was whether it affects the etheric body?

That's what this is all about.

[CFTraveler]

That's the point, if you already got your answer, why are you changing the question?

[Tiny]

That's the point, if you already got your answer, why are you changing the question?

I don't have the answer and an article and a few voices on another forum don't make up my mind, hence I came and asked the question here.