im new here and i need help!

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level7dreamer

I can't get out! I know we do, but i get close and i pass out every time. I tried everything. I have two robert bruces books, astral dynamics and mastering projection in 90 days. I fail miserably  *sob*.

i get really heavy vibrations and i can trance easily (kinda got that down to a science now). And i just need like... to start all over i guess. i need someone to direct me. anyone?

Matt

Dr.Acula

You're trying too hard.
stop trying too hard and be patient, and you shall be rewarded.

Vice

literally exhaust your body before projecting so you enter a deep trance faster.

Psan

Quote from: level7dreamer on September 16, 2008, 02:04:03
but i get close and i pass out every time. I tried everything.

If you mean that you fall asleep while trying, then you can try some things :

1 - Don't try when you are too exhausted.
2 - Don't try before going to sleep, instead try after getting up (get up early method)
3 - Change your body position to some less comfortable position , like sitting instead of in bed.
4 - Use a timer.

Drift

Look I dont think many modern techniques are helpful, maybe they work for some but really they are all hard work for nothing.

I started my OOBEs when i was a kid without needing techniques so ive probably had it easy, when you've had over tweny complulsives you dont really have doubts about the phenomenon and many of the fears werent there for me as id seen it all before.

Goto bed normally, lie on your back, and just lay there, lay for an hour without moving a single muscle in your whole body and believe me you will be very close to the state you need to be in and you will feel it. You cant help but feel detached when the body truly shutsdown which it will.

Then just start trying to blank your mind, its impossible to think of nothing so thing of something, a dark blanket over you, floating, space, planets, whatever try them all and see what floats your boat. If you feel a weird tugging sensation in your solar plexus or head and sit up in a panic, smile because you just freaked out right at the point of OOBE:D Its worth smiling because now you know you can get there easily enough next time.

Be patient, practice often it will come if you just relax and treat it like a methodical routine.