New results for my own AP induction.

[Lionheart]

That's what I'm trying to capture. Out of all my oobe's, i have only had about 10-15 where I was completely aware from start to finishand I knew that nothing I was experiencing was from my own projections and they are usually the shortest. Most of my oobe's are a mix of awareness and control and my own "fantasy" but I still wouldn't classify them as just dreams. The longer I phase the easier it is to fall into the dream trap, where you for one reason or another I lose awareness and the dream takes over. Like you said, or at least implied, when you wait until after SP sits in to phase, we're at the mercy of our tendency to let the normal dream process take over.

Practice this often and you will see your awareness of the NPR expand especially in vividness.

Just close your eyes and imagine you are holding a basketball with your non physical hands. Turn the ball in your hands, focus on the color, the texture. Try to feel the texture. Now bounce that ball around. Pass it from your left to right hand, dribble it back and forth. Now take the ball and launch it into the air. Watch as that ball goes through the basket.

You can do the same by visualizing you are holding a candle. Take your right hand and pass it over the candle flame. Watch how the flame reacts. Did you feel the heat with your hand? Try it again. Blow on the flame, does it react to your breath.

Do whatever action seems natural to you. The funny thing I use a basketball quite a bit, but don't really like Basketball as my favorite sport. I just find that the ball has texture, color, and that I can launch it and see the end results of that throw quite quickly.

But many times during the day, I just close my eyes and visualize a flaming ball of light in non physical hands or a tree in front of me that I am reaching towards to touch a branch of. This kind of daily practice helps immensely when attempting to Phase.

Do you see what I am doing here. I am taking a simple act and focusing 100% on it, to the point of seeing and feeling the action. I am also seeing that the more I focus on this scenario, the more it is creating anew.

Stay with the scene. You will lose your focus many times when you are first beginning to do this. But practice it and practice it often. You will see after awhile you can stay with that NPR focus for a longer time. Long enough to turn that simple basketball in your hand into a full blown game scenario with spectators and all the "trimmings".

This doesn't take long. You don't have to do a relaxing process or special breathing. You don't even need to meditate to prepare.

Just close your eyes at will and begin.

The better you can keep your focus on your intent, the quicker you will be able to access the NPR without the "bells and whistles/sign posts". You will be Phasing so quickly that you don't have time to go through all vibrations etc.

[Bedeekin]

  ^   Nice one Lionheart.

[Astralzombie]

 The better you can keep your focus on your intent, the quicker you will be able to access the NPR without the "bells and whistles/sign posts". You will be Phasing so quickly that you don't have time to go through all vibrations etc.--LionHeart.

Therein lies a catch 22 for me. I can phase with or without SP but I know my projections after SP are much more vibrant and easier to control. The problem is that I want to be sure that I am not changing things constantly. In other words, I want more experiences in which I have not influenced anything but I am instead just interacting with the reality that I have entered. I know I can only perceive that I have not influenced my surroundings but that's the most we can hope for.

I should state clearly why I am here. That is to conquer my fears. The biggest is not death but a damned afterlife. I know I have a lot more confidence of what comes next but my goal is to grow so much as a spiritual being or I guess I should say consciousness, that I no longer care what comes next because I have become a being worthy of the best. As my dad would say, "That's a lot of new-age hippy crap", but for all his talk and actions, I still look at him and see a great man but not one who is sure of his own faith and is therefore incomplete. No body is, I know that. But I don't see a man who is trying anymore.

Like I said, you guys are cheaper than a therapist and couldn't be any worse.

[Lionheart]

Therein lies a catch 22 for me. I can phase with or without SP but I know my projections after SP are much more vibrant and easier to control. The problem is that I want to be sure that I am not changing things constantly. In other words, I want more experiences in which I have not influenced anything but I am instead just interacting with the reality that I have entered. I know I can only perceive that I have not influenced my surroundings but that's the most we can hope for.

First off I Thank Bedeekin for making this thread. I have been experiencing a kind of drought myself. You reminded me of something I used to do before and had great success with. Lately,  I could get to the 3D darkness/depth and that was it. I just stayed there and contemplated life.

Until today that is.

Its_all_bad, you say that you don't want to influence anything. Well you will love this session I had today.

This is the short version, lol.

First I visualized a candle, it was just kind of floating in front of me. I reached to this candle and held it for awhile. Just focusing on the flame and the smoke wisp coming from the flame. I experimented with moving my hand over it, passing it back and forth, pinching the flame with my fingers, etc.

Then I just stared at it and all of a sudden it was reacting to my breath. The flame would move closer on my inhale and further away on my exhale.

That flame then turned into a raging fire, then I could see it was in a campfire. Then I heard drums and music, I even started to mentally hum, not knowing what i was doing. Next thing I know there are a number of people, some kind of tribe around me. I then feel the sensation of being lifted up and brought down a very dark corridor, but once in awhile there was a flame that could be used to light up the corridor. This then led to me being put in a room. I look on the floor and there is a small child/baby dragging it's butt on the floor, just like a dog does. The baby then goes to what looks like a TV in front of it and sticks it's head in and out of the TV screen. The child then motions for me to do the same. I oblige and immediately see a busy beach scene through the other side of the TV screen. I then join this scene. Somebody throws me a Frisbee, I catch it and throw it back. Then all of a sudden something hit me on the head. The other guy had thrown the Frisbee back to me and it hit me in the head.

Then for some reason my physical lip started to quiver, which I don't think I have ever had happen before. But anyway, that instantly finished the session.

The only thing I created in this entire scenario consciously was the candle and the flame and the experiments I was doing with it.

Do you see what I'm saying here?

[ChopstickFox]

That's pretty exciting! I'm going to try this tonight!

I've had a habit since I was little that before I fall asleep, I imagine myself in a storyline. Usually I fall asleep at some point within it. Rather than actively create a storyline for my entertainment, I could try the ball or flame thing and see what happens. Maybe it will springboard its own thing or even better an AP. I'll certainly let you guys know if I have any luck

[justin35ll]

That is pretty amazing. I always have my obe's by waiting for what feels like SP to come on. I feel like it is necessary and has to happen in order for me to have an experience, but I guess it really isn't and with practice and experience it should become easier and I may not have to depend on it.

[Astralzombie]

First off I Thank Bedeekin for making this thread.

The only thing I created in this entire scenario consciously was the candle and the flame and the experiments I was doing with it.

Do you see what I'm saying here?

Yes, Thank you Beedeekin and everyone else for that matter. I read a post on this forum, somewhere yesterday, and it explained the concept of synchronicity. I will ramble about that more in a minute.

LionHeart--I believe you are saying that even though you ONLY consciously created the candle and flame, the whole scenario was entirely your creation in which you interacted? Whether or not that was your meaning, it did answer THE question for me. It was the equivalent of a slap on the back of a head when a pupil needs to wake up and pay attention.

I know some people don't like to feel like they are educators in certain disciplines or that they are any "better" at something than other people but I'm just being real. While it may be true that many of us can "get there", the difference is that some of us don't know how to recognize the advantage of being "there".  I'm sure that we all have different reasons and goals that we want to accomplish but at our core, we are all the same. We all want to learn and grow. While I may still be benefiting from interacting with giant, pink and blue dinosaurs that know kung fu in the NPR, right now, I'm taking a more practical approach. But believe me when it's time to relax and have fun, I can party with the best of them.

Now for my rambling about synchronicity. For the past few months, I've noticed that anytime I have a sincere concern or question, I seem to be bombarded with many "coincedences" that are to frequent to ignore as random. I know that academics like to say that nothing odd is happening and that we only think we are suddenly coming across many different "answers" or validations because it is on our minds so the events stick out to us. In other words, because we have an active interest in something, we consciously take notice of anything related even though we come across these "happenings" everyday by random chance. Bullsh1t. I'm no mathematician but what are the real odds.

Without boring everybody into the NPR with details, the very weird way that I even came across this forum on the internet is an amazing "coincidence" in and of itself. Thanks, again.

[Bedeekin]

Ah yes... the red car syndrome. If you look for red cars you will see more... because of the object of interest. That is true.

But yes... when it involves the synchronicity of subtle things within a short amount of resources and it creates an instant reaction because it sticks out like a sore thumb, then it's the wider reality speaking to you. It's obvious. The law of averages works on big numbers of likely scenarios to be able to reproduce a 'coincidence'. When it's an unusual thing... like... you need rubber gloves to clean the drain and somebody from the council posts a pair of complimentary rubber gloves through your letterbox within the hour then you sort have have to throw out the law of averages. It's even more interesting if you sit and wait for the rubber gloves to be posted.

This is one of the benefits that NPMR exploration tends to produce.

[Anonymouse]

I'm up for Bedeekin's method practice . I will talk back to you in a little while.

Thanks in advance. It really sounds like something else. I too work with my hands, in a way ( I play an instrument), so tactile among with sounds are my thing.

For some reason I can only visualize clear when I'm very tired. Or when I'm in deep deep meditation. I will try to simply shift my awareness, playing around with my nonphysical arms and hands, feeling them.

take care.

[Bedeekin]

It's so simple it's scary.

I have been playing with different textures.

I am finding that I spend about 5 minutes just 'feeling' whatever I choose to feel. This seems to deepen the Nonphysical focus away from the physical.

If I try to early to 'separate' - which is a habit because of SP - I just sort of loop back into physical consciousness or end up physically moving... at least I think I am. 

[ChopstickFox]

Been sick today so been in bed a lot... Fooled with some of this stuff. It's really hard for me to imagine feeling so I think trying this out is good for me. I suddenly found myself rotating and I rolled over inside my body at one point while being aware of my physical one. Awkward, and I didn't really manage to get anywhere. But certainly an interesting feeling, nonetheless.

[Bedeekin]

It's not a body thing here. It's basically just my hands and where I choose to 'feel'. As soon as I attempt a separation I instantly get the dual feeling that is very distracting so I know what you mean.

Also... the actual nonphysical experience has no separation involved. It's purely phasing when I get to the nuts and bolts of it.

I am basically playing with the sensation of tactility... meanwhile my non-physical awareness is playing a sort of impressionistic dream-like scenario. I then turn my focus away from the little tactile exercise and merge with the scenario... then I am in full colour and full immersion within the experience.

It can also be interpreted as a sort of mix of all... there is a Lucid Dream aspect to it.. in that I am having this separate impressionistic dream that I literally 'wake up' in. I think the tactile exercise is merely just that... an exercise.

[ChopstickFox]

I forgot to mention that I wasn't trying to exit or anything. It just suddenly happened and I was like "Oh snap.... say wut? I don't think this is supposed to happen"

[Bedeekin]

It's all supposed to happen! 

It doesn't matter how we separate or enter the nonphysical whether it be dream or SP or eating too much cheese.  It's all the right way.

I know you weren't truly saying that.. I just picked up on it.

[ChopstickFox]

I would love a dream about eating cheese right now. The Chinese don't believe in cheese. Especially in stick or block form.

[Bedeekin]

Haha.. that sounds mental.

What form befits them?

[ChopstickFox]

I gotta say, the yogurt is delicious.

[Ragman]

Man I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I have been practicing for years and can only achieve this state after waking up from a sleep/dream. I wake up and can move around while allowing my mind to keep dreaming non visually ( more like automatic inner dialog ). Trying to quiet on my mind or trying understand what I am thinking will make my thoughts change to my daily life consciousness and break the state.  I feel completely awake and can even open my eyes or roll over to get comfortable, this state took me a while to notice because it's almost exactly the same as being completely awake. Learning this also allowed me to continue a non lucid dream for hours.

Once I am comfortable I make my legs push through my bed and touch the carpet or rock back and forth with my whole body by just imaging it. I can also imagine holding an object in my hand if I wanted and actually feel it, I could imagine eating food in bed too which is fun (swallowing can be a problem). Once I get a feel for it I'll move away from my body. I have to really focus on the exit and not even think about myself in bed or I will snap back instantly, but if that happens I can just try again. It's so easy after a while. No vibrations, no sleep paralysis, no visual hypnagogia, no sudden noticeable shifts in awareness. Everything is non visual until I am next to my bed but over time the visuals kick right away or in about 3-5 seconds. It used to take 10+ seconds for visuals. When the OBE ends I instantly pop right back into that state and can have another one or open my eyes and be wide awake with great memory of everything that happened, my OBES like this are usually short (2-5 minutes each). I've been able to do this every morning for the past year or so.

If I want to go somewhere such as my childhood school I can just imagine projecting as usual and then touching the grass or concrete with my feet and feeling myself there until visuals to kick in.

But I just can't do this from an awake state during the day, I have practiced for years and have even gone so far as to buy a small pocket EEG machine recently. My brain totally skips alpha waves for some reason and goes straight into combination of Theta/Delta but it takes about an hour to start and is so delicate even being aware of it can break it. I have also had a few times while meditating where I suddenly shifted into a dream for a second or two, felt myself there and then snapped back. However, the EEG report shows I was wide awake and didn't have any increase in theta or delta.

I'll leave it there I'll post some more if anyone is interested.

[Bedeekin]

Automatic inner dialogue Awesome. I like that... AID.

Cool Ragman.

I am always interested.

Once I get a feel for it I'll move away from my body. I have to really focus on the exit and not even think about myself in bed or I will snap back instantly, but if that happens I can just try again. It's so easy after a while. No vibrations, no sleep paralysis, no visual hypnagogia, no sudden noticeable shifts in awareness. Everything is non visual until I am next to my bed but over time the visuals kick right away or in about 3-5 seconds.

This is pretty much identical. Playing with the tactile sensations. If I try to instigate actual separation I snap back.. also it sort of feels a bit like 'virtigo'.

Then I realise I have this AID running simultaneously... turning my full attention around to it causes me to 'pop' fully into it... like slipping on VR machine. It's very similar to my normal OOBEs but because I am practically awake it's quite startling.

This is awesome actually... I feel like I'm 20 again discovering yet more new things.