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albinopolarbear

I had recently read Xanth's ebook (which I found very helpful) and am trying to implement. The noticing technique is working pretty well for me. I lay down and relax the body and focus on the darkness. Then as I am noticing I begin having visuals, (scenes and or people) and I try to remain curious and or nuetral. This happens fairly easy for me. Sometimes the visuals are changing rapidly, other times a little more slowly. It almost seems that what I am witnessing is flipping channels on a tv. What I struggle with is engaging into any of the scenarios to where as I have some sort of control. I hate to use the word control but I couldnt think of what it is I am trying to express. I guess maybe to have the freedom to explore and experiment. I also have kind of practiced on the mental rundown but do need to practice some more. Any suggestions?

Xanth

Hey there, welcome to the Astral Pulse!  :)
I'm glad you're finding my eBook helpful!

As for the noticing, don't try to engage... that's an act of "doing" and what you're aiming for is the act of "allowing".
Just "allow" your attention to get taken more and more, deeper and deeper into that which you're noticing.

That's a good analogy you have there too... like flipping channels on a tv, because that's kind of what's going on... except they're the channels of the mind.  :)

You sound like you're doing fine.  Less "doing", more "allowing".  :)

albinopolarbear

Alright I will try the allowing. That must be what happens when I am into a scenario for a bit of time. Thanks for the reply Xanth. This seems to work better for me rather than laying there and trying roll out or climb up a rope.

Lionheart

 The "flitting: around is frustrating. You will see with more practice you will get better at staying with just one scenario. Passively observe everything for now with just an air of curiosity. Make sure that you keep your visits short and write down in your log everything you can remember. But don't try to analyze it just yet. Get a month of experience in before you go back to trying to find patterns or labeling anything.
It sounds like you are doing great here. Phasing is my chose technique as well. I found that "leaving" the body per say, put too much focus on my physical body. Phasing gives you the abiltiy to just shift off from physical to non-physical in one simple transition.
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  :-)

albinopolarbear

Thanks for the advice guys. I cant tell you how many hours I logged trying to leave the physical body in the last couple years. But i guess it has been good practice. I would often read about the "phasing" but could never make any sense of it or the focus levels other than 10. Thanks again.

Xanth

"You don't need to get out of your body... you need to get into your consciousness" ~Tom Campbell

You're already out of your body... you're never, at any point, IN your body to begin with.  You are not your body... the best analogy is that you're like the rover on mars.  These bodies are "earth rovers".  LoL  It's a great analogy.  Came from, I believe, Bruce Lipton?  LoL

Anyway, stop getting in the way of what's, actually, a normal, natural process... you have to unlearn everything you've learned up until this point in your life in regards to what you think about *you*.

Lionheart

Quote from: albinopolarbear on September 10, 2012, 21:52:32
Thanks for the advice guys. I cant tell you how many hours I logged trying to leave the physical body in the last couple years. But i guess it has been good practice. I would often read about the "phasing" but could never make any sense of it or the focus levels other than 10. Thanks again.
That previous work most likely helped you quite a bit. It gave you the chance to learn to still the mind and meditate. It also let you become familiar with the various "signposts" of the NPR.  :-)

albinopolarbear

Yes, The previous work definitely helped and during it I have had some good experiences. Now with this, it is coming fairly easy.

AstralCody

Quote from: Xanth on September 10, 2012, 22:24:05
"You don't need to get out of your body... you need to get into your consciousness" ~Tom Campbell

You're already out of your body... you're never, at any point, IN your body to begin with.  You are not your body... the best analogy is that you're like the rover on mars.  These bodies are "earth rovers".  LoL  It's a great analogy.  Came from, I believe, Bruce Lipton?  LoL

Anyway, stop getting in the way of what's, actually, a normal, natural process... you have to unlearn everything you've learned up until this point in your life in regards to what you think about *you*.

I was gonna write something very similar Xanth, but you nailed it! Tom is a great guy to listen to. I watch a bunch of his videos. :-D
-Cody

Astralsuzy

As of this morning I am going to take Xanth's advice.  Lionheart may have encouraged me as well.  I do not remember.  I do not like leaving anyone out.  I am going to start phasing tomorrow morning.  I do not think I can rely on my mind to relax all the time to know that I can ap.  Since I have started making a big effort to try to ap every morning for the last week or so, I realise I cannot think this is going to happen.  I could get the vibrations, I may not get any vibrations, I may slip or move out of my body etc.  I have to be prepared that anything can happen.  This morning I did not get any ap sensations.  I fell asleep twice.  If I was phasing I probably would have noticed that I was about to go out of my body.  I have a question for those that can ap a lot.  When you have an experience do you write about it in the forum?  The reason I am asking is because I do not want to irritate people.  It may not be irritating to people.  I am not sure.  It is hard to keep it to yourself when I have no one to tell about my experiences. 

Szaxx

Hi,
Welcome to Astral projection experiences. This is found from the home button. The 2nd sticky has a location pointer for your experiences to link to.
Dropbox or similar can be used for your journal as long as its in a public folder.
Hope this helps.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Lionheart

Quote from: Astralsuzy on September 12, 2012, 16:55:58
  I have a question for those that can ap a lot.  When you have an experience do you write about it in the forum?  The reason I am asking is because I do not want to irritate people.  It may not be irritating to people.  I am not sure.  It is hard to keep it to yourself when I have no one to tell about my experiences. 
No, I very rarely write an actual Phase Session experience on this forum. I used to when something new and unique occurred, like my first "Retrievals" for instance. You will find that events that occur in the NPR are more of a personal nature. What they mean to me, might not be the same to another person. Also, sometimes if we say our experiences, other people will be using that to measure their own. I will definitely help any other people to find the NPR, but I don't share my experiences any more. For awhile there I was told not too from my guide or whoever was helping me at the time. I log them in my personal notes most of the time now. Like I said yesterday you will find that sometimes your experience will just be floating in the 3D Darkness/Greyness enjoying the peace and tranquility. Sometimes it will be a quest and even sometimes it will be a new inspiration that is starting to unfold. I ask when I Phase to be shown what I need to see and learn what I need to know. I leave it all in the NPR's hands now. I trust 100% in it. I have seen enough proof myself in my personal life to come to this conclusion.  :-)

leavesofgrass

AlbinoPolarBear. First, nice name. We have lots of Polar Bears where I live in Sweden. In fact, they roam the streets with all the people. HA. Seriously, we have no Bears of any kind in Sweden but for some reason people think we have Polar Bears. So your name had me chuckling as Frank would say. I am like you in the sense that I tried the OBE stuff for just under 2 years...had some successes with it fairly easily...but after reading Franks PDF that Xanth put together I am now dedicated full time to Phasing. If you havent read that PDF you should get it. It is the best thing I have ever read on AP phasing or otherwise. Just like Xanth and Lionheart said...let go, let go and let go some more and it will happen. Oh, and practice, practice and more practice and patience, patience and more patience...there is truly no rush in infinity and eternity.

Lionheart. I am going to buy either the Laxman or MindMachine MindLights. Did you compare these two units? This may or may not be the right place to ask you but in the end it is all related to phasing and this post is about phasing so hopefully no one will mind me asking. I can already Phase without the gadgets. I just think its fun to explore with new things. Oh, and Sweden is very dark during the winter so I am curious about the Laxman light therapy...what a bonus to get through the dark winters!

Lionheart

Quote from: leavesofgrass on September 12, 2012, 22:25:38
Lionheart. I am going to buy either the Laxman or MindMachine MindLights. Did you compare these two units? This may or may not be the right place to ask you but in the end it is all related to phasing and this post is about phasing so hopefully no one will mind me asking. I can already Phase without the gadgets. I just think its fun to explore with new things. Oh, and Sweden is very dark during the winter so I am curious about the Laxman light therapy...what a bonus to get through the dark winters!
Yes, I compared the two of them. But I went with the Laxman because that is the one I saw in a previous Phase Session I had. I also was very impressed by Craig's review. We can talk about this further on the Laxman forum found here.http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/laxman_light_and_sound_machine-t36015.0.html
I apologize to the OP for going off topic!

leavesofgrass

Thanks, Lionheart. I will go ahead and post a few more questions-comments about Laxman versus MindLights over on the forum that you have linked to. And, I guess technically I am the one that should apologize for going off topic....oops! My apologies.

Astralsuzy

Thanks Lionheart, I am going to try not to tell about my ap experiences.  I will write it down in my book.  I will get into the habit of using it. 

Contenteo

Xanth and Lion Rocked the socks on this thread. Allow me to come up peanut gallery here and passively throw out more passive emphasis on the passiveness part. If you are thinking about phasing. You will not phase. You are empathizing your physical body.

And on getting a little further

Your active energy should be put into responded to the 'flitting' legitly put, Lion day dream state.
You will find you can fall into these 'flitting' scenarios much easier by propagating metaphysical imagery(i.e. hackysack, frisbee, driving) into the experiences.
Ya get knocked down out of one, just seamlessly roll onto the next 'flitter'. Before you know it, you'll forget you're even laying there.
IF Conditions = right THEN Phase USER.

Cheers,  :-P
Contenteo

And this throws a total wrech into the works.
Quoteevents that occur in the NPR are more of a personal nature
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albinopolarbear

Wow thanks for all the great feedback. The funny thing about it for me personally is I was kind of on track with the phasing before I had ever heard about AP. I had been going to bed at night from a meditative state and before drifting into sleep I was pretty much doing the phasing or just noticing and all the flipping around. Then when I finally read about AP, I started trying to get out of body and I had been practicing intensely for two years usually 2-5 pracice sessions a day and was becoming so frustrated that I was thinking of giving up. Thanks again.

Lionheart

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Quote from: albinopolarbear on September 13, 2012, 09:15:57
Wow thanks for all the great feedback. The funny thing about it for me personally is I was kind of on track with the phasing before I had ever heard about AP. I had been going to bed at night from a meditative state and before drifting into sleep I was pretty much doing the phasing or just noticing and all the flipping around. Then when I finally read about AP, I started trying to get out of body and I had been practicing intensely for two years usually 2-5 pracice sessions a day and was becoming so frustrated that I was thinking of giving up. Thanks again.
I think many people unknowingly have Phasing episodes. Basically that's what Day Dreaming is. It's just that the terminology Out of Body seems so confusing, when it should be "into your Consciousness". Mind you there are a number of people here on this site that do successful climb" out of their body". To each their own, no one has been proven to be 100% right or wrong, so this still remains one of life's mysteries. It all in our interpretations.
I myself like to stay with the term "Nonphysical event".