Any tips on enganging sleep paralysis?

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dragoblaster

Well i;ve read that sleep paralysis is like your easy ticket to an out of body experience.  Not that i would rely on only sleep paralysis. I'm curious, because I do have sleep paralysis sometimes. I can narrow when they happen when either i one: wake up at night for some reason  or two: your just very tired/ sleeping late. The funny thing about when i had sleep paralysis like two days ago, i wiggled my toes to get out. I couldn't tell i was breathing, and its scary cause i either let it take me or i resist it. Like after i resisted it, one minute later i get sucked back into sleep paralysis; again i resist until i'm more awake and fall asleep normally. Funny how i found out about astral projection, and that i could of easily done it right than!

Magickist

What I do for sleep paralysis is this. It's pretty much TVOS's Alarm Clock method modified a little.

When I'm going to sleep I set my alarm clock to go off 30 minutes later.
I wake up and set it to go off 25 minutes later.
I wake up again and set it to go off 20 minutes later.
I wake up again and set it for 15-20 minutes later.

Next time I wake up I'm probably in sleep paralysis, or had gotten into it before that. I set the time depending on how tired I am and how long I think it will take me to fall to sleep again. This hasn't failed me once, and I highly recommend it to beginners. It's a little more difficult for me though, since I use headphones with the alarm clock and can only sleep on my back or stomach. This makes it hard for me to go back to sleep because I'm a side sleeper unless I'm really tired.

Good luck, I guarantee you this will work!
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CFTraveler

Quote from: dragoblaster on December 12, 2007, 20:49:47
Well i;ve read that sleep paralysis is like your easy ticket to an out of body experience. 
You know, I hear this over and over and people take this as gospel, it's like a given, and I have to say that I  deeply  disagree  with this.  IMO and as someone who gets SP occasionally, I have to say that sleep paralysis is not the same as mind awake, body asleep.  It sounds like it, it looks like it, but there is a very important difference: Sleep paralysis is something that happens to you, not something you produce.  When you go into trance to the MABA state (don't want to keep typing the same words over and over) you are lucid, and your focus is on getting out of the body.  There are cues that there is a projection reflex going on, or techniques to phase into the astral, but it's not the same experience as waking up paralyzed.  In fact, if I had technical doohickeys to study this, I'd bet that the brain hormones and frequencies would be different to the type of trance you need to project.  When you have SP you are often not lucid, and your focus is on your body (and the fact that you can't  move) and if you're having a SP with Hag you're not only not lucid, you're completely involved in the dream aspect of your experience, and that is not good for projecting.  I have to say that in all my years of projecting the only time I have projected from a SP state was by falling asleep completely, and waking up again with vibrations.  It was altogether a different experience.  In other words, IMO SP is something that takes control away from you, and you are not in a good enough mental state to turn it into a projection.
Now that I said it....
QuoteNot that i would rely on only sleep paralysis. I'm curious, because I do have sleep paralysis sometimes. I can narrow when they happen when either i one: wake up at night for some reason  or two: your just very tired/ sleeping late. The funny thing about when i had sleep paralysis like two days ago, i wiggled my toes to get out. I couldn't tell i was breathing, and its scary cause i either let it take me or i resist it. Like after i resisted it, one minute later i get sucked back into sleep paralysis; again i resist until i'm more awake and fall asleep normally. Funny how i found out about astral projection, and that i could of easily done it right than!
Well, don't let me discourage you- if you wake up with SP and are lucid enough to know that you can use it to project, then try an exit technique and see what happens.

Magickist

Quote from: CFTraveler on December 14, 2007, 15:40:31
You know, I hear this over and over and people take this as gospel, it's like a given, and I have to say that I  deeply  disagree  with this.  IMO and as someone who gets SP occasionally, I have to say that sleep paralysis is not the same as mind awake, body asleep.  It sounds like it, it looks like it, but there is a very important difference: Sleep paralysis is something that happens to you, not something you produce.  When you go into trance to the MABA state (don't want to keep typing the same words over and over) you are lucid, and your focus is on getting out of the body.  There are cues that there is a projection reflex going on, or techniques to phase into the astral, but it's not the same experience as waking up paralyzed.  In fact, if I had technical doohickeys to study this, I'd bet that the brain hormones and frequencies would be different to the type of trance you need to project.  When you have SP you are often not lucid, and your focus is on your body (and the fact that you can't  move) and if you're having a SP with Hag you're not only not lucid, you're completely involved in the dream aspect of your experience, and that is not good for projecting.  I have to say that in all my years of projecting the only time I have projected from a SP state was by falling asleep completely, and waking up again with vibrations.  It was altogether a different experience.  In other words, IMO SP is something that takes control away from you, and you are not in a good enough mental state to turn it into a projection.
Now that I said it....
  Well, don't let me discourage you- if you wake up with SP and are lucid enough to know that you can use it to project, then try an exit technique and see what happens.

I disagree. I project from sleep paralysis all the time. Even when it's there from awakening. That's the whole point of the alarm clock method.
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CFTraveler

QuoteI disagree. I project from sleep paralysis all the time. Even when it's there from awakening.
Well, then you're better at it than me.
QuoteThat's the whole point of the alarm clock method.
I disagree there.  I have had all kinds of false awakenings and the fact that I 'got up' without realizing I was still asleep (and tried to make breakfast, and found that I wasn't in-body) illustrates what I was trying to say.  With a false awakening there is no focus on the body, while in sleep paralysis there is total involvement with my physical body.  Or am I the only one who sees a difference?

Magickist

What I mean is, using the alarm clock method your goal is to screw up your sleeping patterns and trick your body. It's then supposed to allow you to wake up in sleep paralysis or very near it.
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greggkroodsma

Quote from: Magickist on December 14, 2007, 17:25:05
What I mean is, using the alarm clock method your goal is to screw up your sleeping patterns and trick your body. It's then supposed to allow you to wake up in sleep paralysis or very near it.

Screw up your sleep pattern?  I think it is more like you'll be making a sleep pattern.  I do think that I have had some type of sleep paralysis before, but I cannot unconsciously project or I cannot project unless I am consciously aware.  But, I can see where the alarm clock method would work except the alarm clock would have to go off by itself the last time or you would have to have your consciousness vibrating at the same rate as the alarm and you would then be 'riding the waves of sound.'  And that would involve a pleasant frequency, not an irritant to make you want to get up and turn it off.  That is the point of brain entrainment, I think, with the use of frequencies.  Actually, I do not think you can trick your body.  You can be suave and debonair with the body and it will follow or you can be harsh with it and it will follow, but eventually, you become one with your body and you will do what you have trained your body to do, harshly or debonairly.

kiwibonga

It's true, sleep paralysis is not the mind awake body asleep state, it's a bit farther down the road, actually, more along the lines of "expanded awareness" or focus 12, I would think... In "pure" phasing it's kind of non-existent, it's a flaw caused by a mind that cannot live without a physical point of reference.

To add to what gregg said, the alarm clock method isn't about screwing sleep patterns. The real effect is that by repeatedly experiencing the tiny strand of consciousness that is always on standby for outside disturbances for survival purposes, you'll gain the ability to control it. When you wake up naturally, that strand of awareness grows progressively bigger, and it also does so throughout the night, every sleep cycle. We wake up much more often than we think, but we don't experience or remember it until we train towards that goal. The alarm clock method is about detecting that state, which is basically the heaviest trance state there is, and use the opportunity to project.

You won't get really good results WHILE you're using the alarm, but after a few (days? weeks?), your sleep will be much lighter and much more conscious. It's once you stop with the alarms and wake yourself out of body on your own that you'll really be successful.
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mjolnir_knight

I don't have many tips on engaging sleep paralysis, but I can tell you that it works AMAZINGLY well for AP.  In one night, I woke up five times, four of which I had sleep paralysis, and I projected EVERY SINGLE TIME.  Projecting from sleep paralysis was as simple as willing myself out of my body.
The funny thing is, however, that I seem to have sleep paralysis every time that I die in one of my dreams, especially lucid dreams.  For instance, I had a lucid dream that I was in my own town.  Suddenly, I hear an ominous screaming sound and I look up.  The sky is a deep crimson, and there is a huge nuclear bomb falling from between the clouds.  I see my friend, whose house I had been at, and try to yell something to him, but there is no sound.  The bomb hits and detonates, and there is a feeling of intense pain as, well, I am vaporized, and then I immediately wake up into a horrendously deep sleep paralysis.  I didn't take the time to project because I had to get up to go to school (Yeah, I know, it sucks.  It would have been the PERFECT opportunity, cause I had never had a worse case of SP).  Another example.  I had a dream that I was in a graveyard and it suddenly turned lucid.  Freddy Cruger is there (yes, cliche) and he is clicking his razor claws and walking towards me slowly.  I pull out a USP from a holster that I suddenly willed into existence and put ten rounds through Mr. Cruger.  I am stuck with nothing to do, my mind starts wondering, and I think back to a movie I saw.  Thirty or so scientists in white lab coats appear, all holding AK-47's, and they all open fire on me.  I die, wake up seconds later, into SP, and project seconds later.
I guess what I'm trying to say is... commit suicide in dreams.  You'll get SP, hopefully.

galaxy_storm

I was thinking about this lately.. what if I make a device that plays a "beep" sound in earphones every time I release a button on the device ? As in you hold the button, and as you are falling asleep you release it and.. BEEP! :-D Like the alarm clock but timed "better". Would this be any useful?
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kiwibonga

That's a great idea! Much more convenient than keeping the arm up, too.

I could make a program that does that, and you could use a wireless mouse as the device you have to keep pressed... The great thing about it is that while the mouse is designed to support your finger's weight without clicking, it takes very little effort to keep a button pressed down. Then there's the issue of the headphones... Guess you'll just need a lot of extra wire :p
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Urantia

question, is sleep paralysis like a feeling of having a "dead arm" or "dead leg"? like a numbness were i can't feel anything happening in my arm..or sometimes my leg, i wake up and i can't move my arm or leg..and if i try it kinda hurts, is that sleep paralysis? it goes away quite quick like 20-30 secs i can start using my leg or arm but it just doesn't hurt by then.

galaxy_storm

Well you dont need a computer, I'll make a battery powered device with a button and a headphone output on it. There will be a circuit (oscillator) in it which will send a tone to the headphones as the button is released. I can even built it in an old mouse :D

However I dont know how well it will work though, as I'll be subconsciously trying to stay awake to not get shocked by the sound   :-o :-D

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galaxy_storm

I just thought about this again.. exactly when are you supposed to enter the paralysis? As the alarm clock/whatever goes off for the x-th time? I see no reason for getting to any other state than fully awake when perturbed by the clock giong off  :-P
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kiwibonga

Something changes inside you when you frequently pass the awake-asleep barrier, in such a way that you fall asleep, but you're still awake -- that is what is called trance, and it's the state you need to be in to project.

It can happen when the alarm rings, but usually, it'll happen when you're not using the alarm, when you fall asleep naturally, the reflex you built up will kick in.
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Fifsta

I project from SP most times I have astral experience. Usually when in SP I feel threatened. I know I can just float up out of my body, but I always feel a presence around the house somewhere and always a physical presence like a burglar or summin. Then I hear funny stuff like doors slamming and voices so I force myself awake. But as soon as I close my eyes, I slip straight into SP again. This happens about ten times in a row. I force myself awake and slip right back. When Im sure that there is no one in the house (I know this sound silly) I finally just lift myself out of my body and have a brief projection. But for me SP is usually a very freaky experience because of the noises and stuff. Well just felt like sharing.