Anybody went to Nibiru yet?

[urakei]

I understand that OBEers can go to anywhere they want in the etheric realm. Provided they got enough energy and focus since to fly fast or as fast as thought one need to be very aware right? So probably not many can have a planetary experience. So anybody experienced in OBE had went to see Nibiru? just to see what's in there? is there life in there? Can share with us?

Thanks

[slipknot0129]

i wish i could astral project i would go to nibiru in a heartbeat.

[ViperThunder]

I always thought about going to another planet with intelligent life. I want to see what kind of society structures and buildings and sciences they have made for themselves! It would be so awesome!!

I wonder how different our evolution has been than that of other intelligent species out there? Maybe on one planet, they never used "fossile fuels", and instead used a form of energy local to their planet. who knows! ahhhhh good ol' imagination.

[Milkdrops]

Where the hell is Nibiru?!???!

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

Hey Milk, from what I read, it's a station for the galatic federation or a 'united nation of the universe or universes'.  It used to be a natural planet revolving around a sun in a galaxy until its inside was hollowed out and turned into a giant spaceship and taken out of its orbit.  Now it travels freely around the universe, thanks to advanced technology, with its residents both inside and outside the surface.  The residents are representatives from all corners of the universe, as diverse as the Earth itself, and their aim is to help less evolved beings in their spiritual awakening.  It has been said for some time now that they are focussing on Earth and are very close to us. I personally think that people get confused because they expect to see a purpose built spacecraft, and Nibiru is a planet bigger than Earth which also serves as a spaceship ...

Hope that helps.  There's so much more on the internet.  Just google Nibiru.

[urakei]

I heard from Alex Collier in youtube an Andromedan ET (one of the good guys ET) contactee said that the Alpha Draconans (one of the negative beings) is coming (interview in 1994). Could they be in that Nibiru? Who knows. One thing for sure, their agenda is to conquest, enslave and spread fear among humans. 

[Mrsix]

Surely one can only go somewhere if it really exists. Obviously, it could exist in the astral dimension, but is there really a planet Nibiru?

[McKauhu]

There isn't, if you just believe there isn't It's that simple.

[Tayesin]

I heard from Alex Collier in youtube an Andromedan ET (one of the good guys ET) contactee said that the Alpha Draconans (one of the negative beings) is coming (interview in 1994). Could they be in that Nibiru? Who knows. One thing for sure, their agenda is to conquest, enslave and spread fear among humans. 

I have an experience to share relating to what is being called Draconians, or Reptilians, that is quite a few years ago now but still has relevance here.


"I was sitting in the light at the high ground and noticed an energetic feeling approaching. A reddish, rugged glow of energy could be seen in the darkness outside. I called it to come in, it did. An alien figure around 7 feet in height and coloured a purple/black, came into the light and sat near me. He looked into my eyes and thought to me, “I have come to tell you that my race will be in force on your world soon. Not all of my kind will choose to do what you call the evil things, there is ‘good’ and ‘bad’ in all things my friend. Some of us will work with you, as a ‘resistance’. Do not be fooled into thinking that you cannot harm us, you have the ability. You will know by the eyes when one of my race are on your world, some already are. You must tell others, be very careful who you tell, it is a dangerous time.”

   OK! I sat motionless for what must have been ages, mulling over his words. As I watched him I became curious about his features and asked if I could ’check him out’. He freely offered his consent. His skin was tough, a little scale-like, but not rough. Their arms, legs and torso are longer than ours, with muscles like a well trained athlete. Eyes were a reddish colour, very hard to describe, and set in a hairless face that looked like a series of small shells arranged in order to form slit-like nasal holes and thin hard lips. Very unusual. I was getting the sense from him that they’re almost reptilian in a way. He showed me his hands which were huge. Very long, wide fingers ended in nails very much like dog claws. This continued for minutes as I took in every detail of his body, much more than I wish to say here. I asked him for his name, he replied with a guttural series of clicks, whistles and pops, which is an odd sound to the ear. As he finished, a word filtered into my consciousness, his name. In all fairness to him I can’t tell you what it was. He asked me not to use it, so I won’t. When I was finished he gave me a feeling of friendship and floated upwards into the air, which let me see that he was attached to a cord. And yes, it was a Silvery colour, confirming that he was ’Astral-ing’ from where-ever his body was. "

And Nibiru is not a hollowed out world that is now a Starship, god there is a lot of rubbish on the Internet!

It is the homeworld of a race called by the ancient Sumerians, Annunaki, which means.. Those Who from Heaven to Earth Came. About the closest thing to a good translation of the Sumerian Tablets is Sitchin's 12th Planet, although my mentor who also translated these tablets disagrees with him on a few things.

[interception]

Surely one can only go somewhere if it really exists. Obviously, it could exist in the astral dimension, but is there really a planet Nibiru?

There could very well be a "10th planet" swinging around somewhere outside the Kuiper belt. Read up on that here (point 10): http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg18524911.600

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuiper_belt#.22Kuiper_cliff.22

If it is there, it would be a damn cold place in the physical though.

[Greytraveller]

First, just a thought (or question) about Niburu ---

How could a planet so far from the Sun support any type of advanced, intelligent life???
Niburu MUST be well outside the orbit of Pluto or it would have been discovered by astronomers Long ago. Any planet that far from a star is WAY outside the habitable zone and would be far too cold to contain liquid water - all the water would be frozen. And if that is the case then no intelligent life could survive there.
It will be interesting to see any replies to this issue.

Second
Tayesin
That was a fascinating experience and thanx for sharing.
Was it an actual physical encounter or did you meet this alien while out of body.
And did the alien tell you what star system he/she/it came from??
Any replies are welcome.


Grey

[slipknot0129]

First, just a thought (or question) about Niburu ---

How could a planet so far from the Sun support any type of advanced, intelligent life???
Niburu MUST be well outside the orbit of Pluto or it would have been discovered by astronomers Long ago. Any planet that far from a star is WAY outside the habitable zone and would be far too cold to contain liquid water - all the water would be frozen. And if that is the case then no intelligent life could survive there.
It will be interesting to see any replies to this issue.

Second
Tayesin
That was a fascinating experience and thanx for sharing.
Was it an actual physical encounter or did you meet this alien while out of body.
And did the alien tell you what star system he/she/it came from??
Any replies are welcome.


Grey

the people would stay into suspended animation until the computer wakes them up.

[Tayesin]

First, just a thought (or question) about Niburu ---

How could a planet so far from the Sun support any type of advanced, intelligent life???
Niburu MUST be well outside the orbit of Pluto or it would have been discovered by astronomers Long ago. Any planet that far from a star is WAY outside the habitable zone and would be far too cold to contain liquid water - all the water would be frozen. And if that is the case then no intelligent life could survive there.
It will be interesting to see any replies to this issue.

Hiya Grey,

From the little I understand about Nibiru, based mostly on my Mentors work deciphering the Sumerian Tablets over many years for the British Museum and conducted at the same time as Sitchin (they argued over certain meanings) I gather that the Anunnaki live below the surface. Also, I've come to know many people who dream of being taken to a 'desert world' during the times of massive earth upheavals, which fit with some visions/experiences I have had about it. In recent years, I've occasionally found when dropping off to sleep that I am present at an entrance to the underground facilities on this desert world where I seem to know how to operate the bio-security device to get entry. From there though I simply go to sleep and know no more about it. At this time I don't think it important enough to go further into it.

Second
Tayesin
That was a fascinating experience and thanx for sharing.
Was it an actual physical encounter or did you meet this alien while out of body.
And did the alien tell you what star system he/she/it came from??
Any replies are welcome.


Grey

No not physical, but, a week later one of the 'humanised' ones arrived at the monthly meeting of our research group... that was an experience I can tell you. When he left at the end of proceedings he simply vanished leaving no signs or evidence. that was cool.

This particular experience was not astral for me as I only journey in direct awareness, as using the subtle astral body is confined only to the astral levels. Although, the high ground spoken of does exist somewhere in the astral realms, which was the setting of our meeting.

He didn't tell of his origins. So I followed up after the visit to our group of the humanised version, and what I found when looking for the one I sat with was a massive armada of 'ships' heading towards our solar system. they were absolutely huge, so big that they held within them decks of the large trianlge ships that are sometimes reported here; the ones that measure about 1 to 2 miles across... which makes their carriers really, really big. This envoy was part of the crew of one of those carriers.

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

He didn't tell of his origins. So I followed up after the visit to our group of the humanised version, and what I found when looking for the one I sat with was a massive armada of 'ships' heading towards our solar system. they were absolutely huge, so big that they held within them decks of the large trianlge ships that are sometimes reported here; the ones that measure about 1 to 2 miles across... which makes their carriers really, really big. This envoy was part of the crew of one of those carriers.

Holy sh*t!

[Tayesin]

Holy sh*t!

Hi Venus,
You know we all have that initial response to such concepts. About 2 years after this encounter a friend came to my place with a DVD called, "Signs" which he said I had to watch. I did, and what I saw there was a brilliant rendition of this race, so I know that the idea must have been seeded into the original writer's mind.

Of interest here is that the movie showed we were not unable to deal with the situation, and this affirmed what the emissary had told me. So have no fear love... there is nothing to fear, you chose to be here for this time, and you must know you are powerful enough to cope with any situation that may or may not arise here.

Historically, this race has been here many times. I found them during one past-life re-experience as a slave in Mayan times... when they were the gods we slaughtered thousands of people 'for'. It seems they regularly drop by to harvest here. So if it happens again in your lifetime, be strong and listen to your Intuition.

Love
Tayesin

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

Yeah I know.  But the physical body is weak and perishable.  Plus we are so conditioned in believing that we are our bodies that it is doubly hard to separate the consciousness from the body.  I am now in a struggle to be in control of my energy so I can leave my body when I want to.  I feel like a baby learning to walk all over again. 

Thanks for the encouraging words though.

Love
Venus

[interception]

First, just a thought (or question) about Niburu ---

How could a planet so far from the Sun support any type of advanced, intelligent life???
Niburu MUST be well outside the orbit of Pluto or it would have been discovered by astronomers Long ago. Any planet that far from a star is WAY outside the habitable zone and would be far too cold to contain liquid water - all the water would be frozen. And if that is the case then no intelligent life could survive there.
It will be interesting to see any replies to this issue.

It can't support life as we know it unless its advanced physical machine based life, or weird energy based life forms, or life at a higher vibrational frequency.

[Greytraveller]

Tayesin
It could be possible that the inhabitants of Niburu live entirely underground. That would mean that their planet must have an advanced system to generate and sustain an (underground) atmosphere. If I understood your post correctly then Niburu was Not constructed as a hollow planet/starship. (btw Dyson Spheres are so far only found in Sci-fi but they are theoretically possible).

So assuming that this is the case my next question concerns the inhabitants of Niburu - the Annunaki.
In your opinion are they an advanced race capable of interstellar travel??
Or is their technology more equivalent to modern Earth (only at the beginning stages of space travel??


Curious
Grey

[Tayesin]

So assuming that this is the case my next question concerns the inhabitants of Niburu - the Annunaki.
In your opinion are they an advanced race capable of interstellar travel??
Or is their technology more equivalent to modern Earth (only at the beginning stages of space travel??

Curious
Grey

Hi Grey,
That's two questions I've been pondering for some time.

Based on the information provided by the Tablets they were using Rocketry on their last visit here and used the incoming momentum of Nibiru to sling-shot them into the inner planets in order to be here with enough time up their sleeves to accomplish what they wanted to do. So when the 'homeworld' was in it's initial phase exiting our solar system, they had to 'blast-off' at the right window of opportunity to catch Nibiru, otherwise they were stuck here for the next Shar (orbit of Nibiru). If that was only about 3,400 years ago then I don't think they would have come much further in their 'year'. Even when we read the Tablets we can see they had not advanced far at all in the entire 450,000 earth-years history of their coming here.

As an example, their genetic program took them around 50,000 earth years to accomplish.. firstly finding out "what made a thing in the likeness of it's kind" (DNA), and then progressing to all the experimental units they failed with, some of which the British Museum does have in their possession... as a report from them to my mentor said back in the late 70's, "On analysis, these things are creatures from our mythology and worst nightmares."

So, I really don't think they are interstellar via technology, as their world is what conveys them through space and allows them to visit here. Interestingly, they are aware that life was seeded on their world from a close call between Nibiru and Tiamat (watery mother) way back before our solar system was anything like it is today. Given that they know this about themselves, and that life here was seeded by the same event (earth being part of Tiamat broken off in that event, which is why we are a water world too) then they must be a little 'thick' to not realize that with their genetic program they actually supercharged humanoid evolution here.

I expect that they will be very surprised by our advances in comparison to theirs and the time frames required for them. Next visit should see them realize we aren't blind enough to believe them to be gods any more. Big shock coming for them.

Lastly, I base this information purely on the Tablets, with the exception of my own ponderings regarding their and our advances.

Hope this answers your questions.

[interception]

I for one have yet to see a shred of real evidence that Planet X/Nibiru even exist at all in the physical.
Ancient stone tablets and translations of an ancient language are not evidence of anything.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/science.html
http://www.exitmundi.nl/Planet-X.htm

[CFTraveler]

It seems to me that this Nibiru thing has become something of a belief system.
Anyway, weren't we supposed to see it in 2003?  Last time I checked it's 2008 and still no Nibiru.

[Venus_Goddess_of_Love]

It seems to me that this Nibiru thing has become something of a belief system.
Anyway, weren't we supposed to see it in 2003?  Last time I checked it's 2008 and still no Nibiru.

lol

[Tayesin]

I for one have yet to see a shred of real evidence that Planet X/Nibiru even exist at all in the physical.
Ancient stone tablets and translations of an ancient language are not evidence of anything.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/science.html
http://www.exitmundi.nl/Planet-X.htm

While this is true Interception, we cannot throw the baby out with the bath-water. The baby being a possibly real Nibiru, with the bath-water being the rest of the confirmed and as yet unconfirmed scientific information left to us by the Sumerian Tablets.

As examples:

They left information telling us exactly the size and mass of each planet in the solar system, and, what they actually look like up close. This includes Pluto which as we know was only 'found' in the last century.

They tell us about the physical interactions of two bodies in space, which is something our science has only just discovered in the last ten years or so. So instead of two planets actually colliding, their forces act a little like magnets in that they repel each other as they get too close, this in turn rips surface material off each object and is then formed into smaller planetoids that are ejected when their mass becomes too large.

They also tell us a body traveling through space that has had the kind of 'event' as described above, will have various bits of shrapnel ahead of it so that it appears exactly as Shumacker-Levy 9 did before it's amazing collision with Jupiter.

They left behind the remains of 'euthanased' genetic experiments in extremely large sarcophagi buried in desert sands. To date, three such huge sarcophagi have been found in the past 100 years. The most recent I know of was in the very early 70's when the British Museum recovered, treated and reassembled the remains of these 'animals'.. hence the above quote about what they were.

They left us with detailed drawings of how to navigate to the inner planets from the direction of outside our solar system. The direction of Nibiru's supposed trajectory.

They left us detailed information about the 'creation' of man, how they did it, and how they created the female version so that their own women did not have to incubate the 'production versions' of Homo Sapien, the 'Adappa' which were mixed DNA from Homo Erectus and the Annunaki, possibly Neanderthal as they fit the description perfectly, and Homo Sapien Sapien, the 'Adamma', Cro-Magnon, modern man, us. A heavily edited version of this was taken by the Hebrews out of Sumer and into Egypt, and today appears in Genesis.

They claim to have built the great pyramid as a beacon and communications device, now remember this was written 7,000 years ago, well before the alleged pyramid age in Egypt.

Other interesting information:

The latest research by my mentor indicates 2011/2012 as the timing for the next passage, which she seems fairly confidant of.

The Annunaki also tell us how the 'biblical' flood happened, what the cause was and reminded us that this was a fairly natural event coinciding with the upheavals of Nibiru's passage. We are also told that the constructor's name was Utnapishtim, a favored servant of the Annunaki who was responsible for the genetic program that created us, and who was told to build a Su-Le-Le (underwater boat) that was shaped like closed tube so that it would be submersible in the worst of conditions. Personally, i think the taking into the ark of all living things by two, is a reference to the submarine containing DNA material which makes a lot more sense than having real animals inside.

As my mentor says, "If something has been proven to be about 70 or 80% factual why would you throw the rest out?" 

[interception]

I don't know Tayesin. I guess I'm jaded...

Are they using original artifacts for this research? How reliable is the source material? Age dating techniques are notoriously unreliable.

The fact that there existed advanced societies in the past I find far more likely. This could be the technological/religious ramblings of an advanced lost civilization, yes? Or is that out of the question?

What I find less likely is a very advanced race fiddling around with earth's genetic evolution and then leaving for 3000 years. And the kicker is, they are doing all this from a planet with the most ridiculous orbit ever conceived. The dynamics of this seems all wrong.

[Tayesin]

I don't know Tayesin. I guess I'm jaded...

Are they using original artifacts for this research? How reliable is the source material? Age dating techniques are notoriously unreliable.

The fact that there existed advanced societies in the past I find far more likely. This could be the technological/religious ramblings of an advanced lost civilization, yes? Or is that out of the question?

What I find less likely is a very advanced race fiddling around with earth's genetic evolution and then leaving for 3000 years. And the kicker is, they are doing all this from a planet with the most ridiculous orbit ever conceived. The dynamics of this seems all wrong.

I agree it all sounds very far fetched, and most people have an adverse reaction to it when they first hear during presentations.

Yes original artifacts were used in the translations I know of. Reliability is hard to judge other than we are told it is information given to scribes from all continents at one time, which could be why so many cultures have so much similarity in their mythologies.

For dating, the translator relied on the cycles and timings for those that were recorded on the Tablets. So we are left with a wait and see approach.

Agreed that advanced cultures existed in pre-history, no doubt in my mind.

It appears at face value to be what Sumerian scribes were told to record of their genesis and protracted history by those who make the claims. Again we wait and see. lol

They tell us that the fiddling was done to create a worker in order to take the hard work off themselves. Just as we do with robotics, and the use of forced labor, etc. The first worker was very powerful, squat in stature, a good worker that could follow directions but was unable to think in a linear fashion to work around any problems that arose, much like Neanderthal.. (my inclusion there).

We are told that 3,600 years for us is only one year for the Annunaki, as their world apparently revolves around our sun on a highly elliptical orbit, for which there seems to be observed phenomena that may account for something very much like this. Again, it's wait and see.

It's not my intention to convince anyone of this as a reality, but, given the scientific evidence so far i find it hard not to consider it. After all, we are discovering much stranger things in our universe these days... gigantic water bubbles many times larger than Jupiter and an even larger Diamond which you cen bet has scientists totally stumped about it's origin.

So I will take the wait and see approach while learning more about these truly amazing records on clay tablets.