astral rape

jilola · July 29, 2003, 17:00:33

Ok, here's a suggestion: Think and recall the events and see if there's a symbolic meaning behind them.
I'm not saying this to belittle the horridness of the experience but in my experience many event in the astral are reflections of our physical pasts ans thoughts.

You can't hide in the astral because you'd be hiding from yourself. You can't rjun because you'd be running from yourself.

From scuba diving, this, I believe has some value: Stop, breathe, think, act.

2cents & L&L
jouni

RandomName · July 29, 2003, 17:03:24

Your being really vauge on the whole experience.

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People say I have a tendancy to leave my body and need to ground etc

Who,may I ask, are the people you speak of? What do you mean by tendency? As in intentionally or accidentally?Subconciously?

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Many times I experience rape (while not in my body

You are sure your OBE and not dreaming at the time?

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I would like to hear what others have to say about this topic because astral rape is sick

Sick as in the person receiving it? Or the person acting it out?

I realise im not being helpful and sort of an butt in these questions, but you leave much to be desired in the knowledge area of what the entity is, or what you beleive it to be.

Your not going to get anywhere if you just go on what people tell you, and if you LOOK for help more than try to make it yourself, its rather obvious why its attacking you. Im sorry to sound rude in this way, but there isn't much said about what YOU think. I know you may not understand and are looking for immediate help, but try and give some more information please.

I can only suggest confronting such an entity and fighting back yourself, if you can go out of body as you seem to have incenuated.

Frère · July 29, 2003, 17:43:29

I would say that people who tell you you need to ground, IF they don't know what is OBE, should better be silent, and respectful. If you feel you are not "on the ground" then put your conciousness in your feet, while eather standing or lying, you can actually feelwhat I call my "roots" they are energy coming up from the feet, this energy is used in the robert bruce treatise for purpose of making experience last... this is a reason to think that grounding helps OBE... I have a friend who had spontaneous OBEs, she is much more grounded than I am. OBE is a sign that your body has been unified, and thus is ready to explore more than just the physical.

I would do as psi in asking you if you are sure it is OBE: did you experience vibrations, did you leave your body while being conscious of what happend to you?

Your story interests me most, because very few people report harassing experiences during OBE, the experience rather stops.

Jilola is also right to tell you it might have a link with some psychological experience of the physical: try to LOOK at the entity raping you: is it always the same one? what does it feel like (you have organs that allow you to know the tint of the beings around you, this helps a lot in investigating the why of what happens... usually when you come to the SOURCE of it you are able to take control over it.

Besides, if salt bathes help, that means you attract the entity with your way of life in the physical: for bathing in salt stops the bad things from soiling your aura.

TorosDead · July 29, 2003, 17:58:05

I've never heard of an astral rape experience before. Try going to the ASRAL PULSE section "practical psychic self defense" and see if it holds any answers.

WalkerInTheWoods · July 29, 2003, 18:45:01

Could you describe what it is exactly that you are experiencing? You are being rather vague. Are you saying you leave your body and while out are sexually assaulted? The most likely way to deal with this is to look within yourself and resolve any problems you may have.

RandomName · July 29, 2003, 22:24:02

^^^^^

Shortened version of my post

Sleepy · July 30, 2003, 08:14:59

Your not alone here. I have had the same "rape" experience as you have, and hundreds of people on different forums and chat rooms have explained there experiences also, and are similar to each other. I know longer try to analyse it, I just snap myself awake, and it ends.I suggest you do the same.
Dee

WalkerInTheWoods · July 30, 2003, 08:37:51

What is it that you are experiencing? I do not understand. Just saying you are raped does not convey the actual meaning when talking about outside the physical. I have seen the word astral rape used to mean other than sexual. So tell us what it is that you are experiencing, feeling, etc and not just what it is you think is happening.

Kazbadan · July 30, 2003, 08:48:32

If you had an astral rape, so t was something like a spiritual attack. I suppose that tge only solution it´s to develop your mind. You must to start meditating and clean your thoughts. Have ever imagined a ghost raping someone like Budha or Jesus? No, they are very powerfull and "clean". So, maybe if you start to grow up spiritually, that kind of things will cease to happen.

Frère · July 30, 2003, 08:58:45

I think she left the topic

victory · July 30, 2003, 17:58:50

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Originally posted by jilola

Ok, here's a suggestion: Think and recall the events and see if there's a symbolic meaning behind them.
I'm not saying this to belittle the horridness of the experience but in my experience many event in the astral are reflections of our physical pasts ans thoughts.

You can't hide in the astral because you'd be hiding from yourself. You can't rjun because you'd be running from yourself.

From scuba diving, this, I believe has some value: Stop, breathe, think, act.

Symbolic meaning!! I've had so many experiences I wouldn't know where to start with the symbolism. What does rape symbolize?
2cents & L&L
jouni

victory · July 30, 2003, 18:04:32

Whoops, this is my first time using a forum. I meant to ask people: what does rape symbolize? As one of the forum members suggests looking for sybolism. Victory

victory · July 30, 2003, 18:13:33

I agree that astral experiences are a reflection of our thoughts and pasts. I also will admit that I have escapists tendancies and need to learn more about life on the physical realm. It's hard to focus sometimes though as I am very open and get distracted easily by entities that I percieve near me and psychic experiences. Thanks for caring enough to respond. Victory

Frère · July 31, 2003, 04:49:25

Good!
You're doing very well victory! I'm really happy you managed to come back to the subject and comment what people say. I feel much concerned by your story, for I also have tendency to perceive entities during normal life. That's what pushes me most in trying to become lucid in my dreams, and eventually exit my physical consciously if possible.

Symbolism has to be found while examining your experience: You are the one who actually have the key: but you need to settle down, and observe what happend in details: you might remember some details you have forgotten, when you will have WRITTEN on a piece of paper ALL the details you can remember, about what sensations you had, what was hurting you, what was not hurting you, whta the entity looked like, what it feeled like, did it seem weak or strong, big or small, beautyfull or horrible... all details are needed, if you eventually find a similarity with someone in your relations, you'll see it will scare you less. But it could also be some unidentyfiable creature, even in it's smallest details: it is unknown to you. Then examine you're most secret desires, what would it feel for you if a beautyful stranger would ring to your door and start loving you at first time... there are infinite ways to interpret it, like the other said if you want us to be able to help you, you'll have to WRITE some details in here.

Then it could be related to an recurrent attitude in your every day life: when you are with your close relations, do you sometimes feel subdued? Do you feel sometimes that after all you are often the victim? Is it easy for you to impose your point of view? When you walk in the street: how do you react to the presence of strangers? do you feel you need to protect yourself? are you curious of discovering new faces? ALL is important, and just start with the easiest to relate to your experience(s) then just go further only to come back wiser.

I have impatience to read you again.

MosesB · July 31, 2003, 19:23:52

not to be rude,but have you ever really been raped or melested.this may be some rekindeled trauma....i dont know what to say(wish i could help)[

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victory · July 31, 2003, 19:29:25

QuoteOriginally posted by fallnangel77

Could you describe what it is exactly that you are experiencing? You are being rather vague.
One of the first experiences I can remember happened as I lay in bed and tried to sleep. About six entities came into the bedroom and and proceded to rape me (taking turns). It was physically very painful. The last rapist was female. I hadn't been trying to astral project. I screamed and eventually a tall spirit engergetically and physically resembling a medicine person I knew came and made them leave.

Frère · August 01, 2003, 04:59:42

We're getting somewhere! you now have a friend in the other side! Alas you don't describe your rapists, nor the kind of place this scene was happening in... and I suggest you might tell all the stories you can remember, there are lots of clues that you might not even notice.

Trying or not trying to project doesn't affect the activity of your bodies. I have very strange sensations of people touching me almost every night: they seem to be massaging my head, helping energy to flow, but sometimes it's just a little embarassing. The fact that the realms are at your hand without even trying might be called a gift, you will say it's more of a curse than a blessing, but it's like everything in life, no good comes alone with plenty of pure joy, In everything we live we can find joy, and also in everything we live we can find something to despair from... just choose to see the good part! If you feel you will project, then try to do it consciously, then you might gain more control over the situation.

WalkerInTheWoods · August 01, 2003, 05:44:46

Do you have any issues about sex? Are you comfortable with it and your own sexuality? Think about what MosesB has said. You do not have to answer these questions here if you do not wish, but think about it. From what I have read about people having trouble with astral entities and sex, the people usually have sexual issues that they need to work through. When they have the entities go away.

Frère · August 01, 2003, 06:19:14

yes! good post fallnangel, congrats!

jilola · August 01, 2003, 10:03:38

I'd bear in mind, that since you're noit an experienced projector, what they were doing and how you perceived and interpreted it may not have anything to do with each other.
The fact that another entity came and stopped them hints at this being something other than an intentional attack and that the attackers didn't know how you perceived them.
I don't wan to belittle your experience in any way but often these things have an explanation other than malice.

2cents & L&L
jouni

Sleepy · August 11, 2003, 05:43:21

the rape, it's an actual rape situation. There is an old movie titled the entity, and that is as close as I can describe it. Only in the movie (based on true events) the woman was not asleep or dozing when it happened.

Meg · August 16, 2003, 09:52:51

Hi everyone,

I have also experienced astral rape. In fact, the experience has frightened me off projecting for the last several months.

The first time it happened was about three years ago, before I really started exploring the idea OBEs. In those days my projections were spontaneous and involuntary, and I didn't know what they were. It was like being attacked in real life, only I could feel the energy of the entity and that is what frightened me the most - it was filled with hate and the love of power, absolutely terrifying. I remember screaming hysterically and the great struggle to escape.

More recently, a few months back, my experiences were with a not-so-scary entity who must have taken a liking to me and kept harassing me every time i went out of body. (An astral stalker?!) He kept on "dressing up" as my husband to try and trick me into bonking him. Like, I would wake up in the vibrational state, begin to exit, and he would be there lying in bed with me, trying to get it on. He was very persistent. I remember on one occasion, I made repeated exits and every time I came out I would try a different tactic on him, to the point where I was insulting his "manhood", saying "Why on earth would I want to be with you? Youre disgusting" etc!

I'm making a joke now, but it was actually quite distressing, and I haven't projected for months. After that, every time I encountered any entity at all I would freak out. It got to the point (which is the same point I was at after the first incident I mentioned, before I learned that these strange experiences were OBEs) where I would immediately panic if i woke up in the vibrational state. And then it stopped happening altogether.

Astral rape is traumatic. It lives in memory in quite a real way.

Meg x

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victory · July 29, 2003, 16:44:53

People say I have a tendancy to leave my body and need to ground etc. Many times I experience rape (while not in my body). I've been told this is astral rape. It is very painful and traumatizing. I've been told: ground, pray, tell the entity to leave, kill the entity--if it has a body!, attack the entity with blue light, drain the entity, take salt baths, sleep while holding stones, place crystals near genitals, shut down a sweat lodge that was generated for astral rapists, rape the entity back, call the "astral police", place blue lights near bed, place a fountain in bedroom, ignore the entity. I've tried most of these and salt/herbal baths help. I would like to hear what others have to say about this topic because astral rape is sick. Victory

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