New to AP but struggling. PLS HELP:)

[Guitarmike]

Hi there,

This is my very first post and please excuse my ignorance although I have tried to understand as much info when it comes to OBE's as possible. I heard about astral projection about two months back from an acquaintance and since then I have been drawn in by its mystique. I have been reserarching as much as I possibly can in the allotted time and been trying everyday to project. Here's my problem, I had been trying to project before I went to bed by relaxing my body first and then trying to passively focus on the colours and stuff I see when my eyes are closed. sometimes I get the feeling that im spinning or tumbeling backwards and a feeling of lifting in my arms, but I realise that it is my physical arm that is very slowly lifting not my etheral arm. Anyway I cant get near any sort of vibration and i get irritated at the little progress I am making. The only sense of vibration I feel is at my eyes, they start shaking and vibrating but it is really only my physical eyes shaking. Also when Im looking into the blackness I try focusing my eyes onto something but usually my eyes kinda roll away out of focus and I cant see much then, must I try stay focused or let them roll back out of focus or what? After doing this for sometime at night I tried to project in the morning after I've slept, I did it this morning for the first time and Im perplexed as to whether what I experienced was truly an outerbody experience or a dream. So i tried a technique for getting out my body and I did it but without any vibrations, I then went next door( I live in a block of flats) and watched my neighbours but their flat wasnt the same as it really is(Im good friends with them, thats how I know this) and it was way too early in the morning for them to be doing the activities I saw them doing, at a later stage I winded up in another persons house-after flying around a bit to see what its like- and the woman that was there was talking to other people in the physical(i think) but could see me, and responded when I touched her  or something. This makes me believe that I was just dreaming and not truly projecting.

That was a mouthful but could anybody perhaps shed some light on what to do when I am trying to project at night, how to get into the vibrations, what to focus on and if my experience was a dream or more??? I'd really appreciate any comments or links to follow with more info on the reletive topics!

Thanks Alot

[NoY]

if your energy body's are in good condition you wont feel any vibrations so forget that as a goal they are just a sign post, the 2 key things you need are deep relaxation and a nice deep trance

you could try some simple energywork to help you relax like this http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/help_for_beginners-t32612.0.html

the most important thing is the deep trance, like when you choose to go to sleep you just let go of everything and start to dream, that's what your aiming for,

also when your out don't expect the environment to be the same as the physical world, you may be in another time

GoodLuck
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