Can Anyone Help Me?

[Stookie]

If you're only 4 days into this method, it's still too new to say it's not working.

ill get a slight sense of a tingling feeling and when i try and focus on it and make it expand, it diminishes

Ignore tingling. If you try to focus on it, it WILL go away. It means you're becoming very relaxed, and when you relax you don't concentrate on the relaxation. You just... relax. If you focus on anything at all, it should be the blackness behind your eyelids or a rundown visualization, or some type of exercise that will keep your mind engaged.

I'd say stick with this route (if your sleep cycle allows it) for at least a month. It'll give time for your subconscious to pick it up and roll with it. After a while, it may be that even though the exercises don't seem to do anything, one night you'll fall asleep and suddenly wake up OBE. Sometimes after lots of dedicated practice, it tends to happen spontaneously.

[Pauli2]

Why cant i get past this? isnt trying after about 2-3 hours of sleep the best time to attempt an OBE

Perhaps.

Some people OBE while going to sleep.

But others need to charge their energy bodies. And that can only be done properly by getting plenty of sleep.

[NickisDank]

Perhaps.

Some people OBE while going to sleep.

But others need to charge their energy bodies. And that can only be done properly by getting plenty of sleep.

Yea ive been trying to do it before sleep, i just now started doing it the other way

[Xanth]

Perhaps.

Some people OBE while going to sleep.

But others need to charge their energy bodies. And that can only be done properly by getting plenty of sleep.

And then... there are others (such as myself) who see this "charging" or "raising of energy" just an added layer of gobbledygook to wad through and isn't needed for astral projection.

[Stookie]

And then... there are others (such as myself) who see this "charging" or "raising of energy" just an added layer of gobbledygook to wad through and isn't needed for astral projection.

It's good for more than just AP. It's an EXCELLENT way to practice and understand awareness, and gain an awareness of all the subtle things going on in yourself. Being able to resize your awareness and move it anywhere you choose is a skill, and it takes concentration as well, all of which helps AP. I think you're viewing it like Frank did, like it's some sort of dragonball z energy you're inhaling. It's all about awareness.

I mentioned in another post that no one HAS to do it and can still get results, but for others, it may be the tipping point they needed.

[Naykid]

I was going to say pretty much what you just said, Stookie.  It helps one focus.  I did the energy thingy back in the day, but haven't for years. 

I just might start doing it again, to see if there is any difference. 

[Stookie]

My experience with energy work is somewhat different from accounts I've read. I KNOW it effects me on different levels. This entire year I've been doing it every day, but in past cases when I haven't done it for long time, when I start, I get very emotionally sensitive for about a week or so. Small things can REALLY make me mad for no reason. Or get overly-excited. I also tend to get jittery like I had a bunch of caffiene, fairly uncomfortable. And even head-pressure & headaches. Then it calms down and I eventually balance out. I think it mostly has to do with being extra-aware of things that normally pass you by. Being extra-sensitive like that, you learn control and focus.

I have some old posts on here where I was wondering if I should stop or follow through and see what happens. I'm glad I followed through.

[Naykid]

My experience with energy work is somewhat different from accounts I've read. I KNOW it effects me on different levels. This entire year I've been doing it every day, but in past cases when I haven't done it for long time, when I start, I get very emotionally sensitive for about a week or so. Small things can REALLY make me mad for no reason. Or get overly-excited. I also tend to get jittery like I had a bunch of caffiene, fairly uncomfortable. And even head-pressure & headaches. Then it calms down and I eventually balance out. I think it mostly has to do with being extra-aware of things that normally pass you by. Being extra-sensitive like that, you learn control and focus.

I have some old posts on here where I was wondering if I should stop or follow through and see what happens. I'm glad I followed through.

I am very sensitive to caffeine, one can of Dr. Pepper and I'm good to go for hours.  I think I will start doing the energy work again.  Next week the kids are off, so I'll either have time alone, or I'll be busy as could be.    I'll need to look up how to go about it again though, forgotten.  Do you do the Bruce energy work or what?

[Stookie]

Yeah, these days I start off with NEW full-body circuits for about 15-20 minutes in the morning, then take about a 5 minute break and sip some water, then do my meditation/chakra work. I've done other energy-work methods, but I'll admit that the NEW method seemed to work better. It seems easier (in method) and more efficient.

[NickisDank]

Well i had another lucid dream last night and it was great, didnt try to have one or anything at all.

The only thing i ran into that was a problem was that i tried to walk through one of the walls in my downstairs living room, and i woke up after trying to do so. Why couldnt i go through? i really believed i was going to go through it, not "can i go through this wall?"

[NickisDank]

Anyone?

[Stookie]

Maybe you became very self-aware of what you were doing and it shocked you out of it. You're not used to walking through walls, so the experience was a little overwhelming. I'm not sure, just throwing it out there.

[NickisDank]

Maybe you became very self-aware of what you were doing and it shocked you out of it. You're not used to walking through walls, so the experience was a little overwhelming. I'm not sure, just throwing it out there.

Yea i really don't know how to explain what it felt like when I hit the wall, it wasn't like solid it felt like mush or something lol. But I remember after trying it being like "huh?" and waking up.

[NickisDank]

So i had some crazy dream recall last night, i remembered about 3-4 dreams... The very last one though i became lucid in it but ive never had this happen yet, i became lucid in a nightmare-type dream. But i was at one of my friends house and i was being held hostage or something like that? and every time id try and escape id fail but it was kind of like the whole dream would restart after i tried to escape and failed. After like the 3rd time i eventually got out of this house that i was at and i was running down this hill at like super-sonic speed hahahha. i started to jump and ended up being able to float up in the air which made me realize i was dreaming. i continued to do this until i was able to control my flying, but then once i got that down i was still kind of scared of what happend before, but i asked for clairty twice back to back, and it just made me wake up. why?

[CFTraveler]

I see two trends in your experiences- your attempts to get out of a specific area/focus and your inability to stay in the experience.  Perhaps you need to develop more in the area you're in (explore it more, see what it's trying to teach you) before you try to go further.
Also, I notice you want others to interpret your experiences, and this may not be helpful to you- maybe you need to try to figure out what the symbols are trying to show you in the experience, and if it doesn't make sense to you, then ask for help.

[NickisDank]

I see two trends in your experiences- your attempts to get out of a specific area/focus and your inability to stay in the experience.  Perhaps you need to develop more in the area you're in (explore it more, see what it's trying to teach you) before you try to go further.
Also, I notice you want others to interpret your experiences, and this may not be helpful to you- maybe you need to try to figure out what the symbols are trying to show you in the experience, and if it doesn't make sense to you, then ask for help.

i see, appreciate it by the way

but i was only lucidly aware for a few seconds it felt like, i just cant stay in it for some reason. i figured asking for clarity twice would of did it but instead woke me up?

[Xanth]

Then you need to work on retaining and strengthening that Lucid Awareness.
http://www.dreamviews.com/section/staying-lucid-13/

Staying Lucid

At first it will be difficult to continue a dream immediately after becoming lucid. The reason for this is that upon realizing you are dreaming for the first time you will likely become really excited. If you still aren't convinced about how amazing it is to have a lucid dream, you won't understand until you have experienced it. The realization that you are dreaming is usually accompanied by a profound appreciation for just how real everything seems in the dream— it feels like part of the real world. This appreciation is followed by the excitement of the prospect of actually being able to control something that seems so real. It is extremely common among first time lucid dreamers to wake up due to the sheer excitement alone, so don't be discourage if your first experienced isn't as lengthy as you'd expected.


To both prevent yourself from waking up and remain lucid, you'll need to stay calm and focus on the dream itself. As soon as you become lucid, remind yourself to stay calm. Pause for a moment to collect yourself and take some time to explore the dream world around you. Upon becoming lucid you'll of course immediately want to try exerting control in your dream, but for your first few lucid dreams you should focus more on training yourself to remain lucid. You can certainly try experimenting with a few things—such as seeing how high you can jump, and perhaps seeking out a particular person—but again in the beginning you should simply try to become comfortable with this new found skill.


Dream Spinning

As mentioned, at first you'll likely find it difficult to remain in your dream upon becoming lucid. If the world around you suddenly starts to fade, or you inexplicably sense that your dream is ending, or you even feel that your dream consciousness is thinning, there is a technique you can try to salvage your dream: dream spinning. Dream spinning is extremely simple and consists of you spinning on the spot like you would have as a child. That may sound very silly, but the technique is extremely reliable. When you stop spinning you'll likely find that the dream clarity has returned, and perhaps your surroundings will have changed as well. In fact, if you focus on changing the setting into something else while spinning, it is very likely you will find yourself in your desired environment after you stop spinning. Note that since it is likely your dream will completely change upon completion of dream spinning, you may lose lucidity. Thus, it may be wise to also remind yourself that you are dreaming while spinning. Also, verbal commands can be beneficial when trying to prevent your dream from ending. Of course dream spinning and verbal commands are tools for controlling your dreams, which we'll get into next.


Rubbing Your Hands

Another common way to stabilize a dream is simply rubbing your hands together or something physical in the dream. The idea here is to keep your senses focused on the dream instead of thinking of waking. If you are dreaming that you are indoors, you can put your hands on the walls or furniture. If you are dreaming that you're outside, you can try putting your hands on the ground. Any of these things will help you keep the dream going.


False Awakenings

While lucid, be wary of false awakenings—waking up within a dream. This is quite common and we've likely all experienced it before. This can occur at any time during your dream: you'll just suddenly dream yourself waking up in your bed. It is very easy to accept this as waking up in the real world since it will seem that you have left the dream world. It is always a good idea to perform another reality check upon waking up to be sure you aren't still dreaming. From here, let's finally move on to dream control!

Those are great suggestions for doing such a thing.  
I personally do the Dream Spinning and know for a fact it works great.

[Taoistguy]

When I 'spsn', I only had to think about spinning. But then I did immediately focus on doing something and holding it together, so it may have been that that worked.

[NickisDank]

So here's what happened


I had a dream where I was walking outside my house and I just stopped and said I'm dreaming, right when I realized this the entire scene faded away and then the next thing I know I find myself opening my eyes in my dark room(I normally have a blacklight, tv and a lava lamp on in my room) and i was hearing the loud buzzing noise. But as I was opening my eyes I saw a pure white, character standing right beside my bed looking down at me? When I tried to focus on it I actually woke up the next second.

Why was this person in my room, and my room being completely altered to pitch black?

[CFTraveler]

'He' more than likely was your projecting double (or expanded energy body, pick your favorite term) and you were not 'looking' with your eyes- you were more than likely having a partial etheric obe, in which your perceptions were reflected back at you.