Flying Beyond our Local Cosmos

[grizli]

First off, I agreed with the theory that they turn their physical bodies and ships into energy for long distance travel. Why I don't believe they are etheric in nature is because it is most illogical to belive that humans are the only physical beings. I think aliens would be too, to say they originated in the etheric just makes no sense.

You should actually try reading what I'm saying, you will see I agreed with some of the things you siad, yet you say I didn't in your post...

Why I don't know alot about magic? Becasue 95% of it is fake and that is a fact. Just because mystics say it is possible to go from etheric to phyisical (without at least orginially being physical) dosen't mean its true, like I said magic is fake. I'm saying logical theories and trying to have an intelligent conversation, while you are overconfident in magic...

Sorry but atoms and particles dont just come from the etheric, I believe it may be possible to turn something physical into energy(etheric) and then back again to physical, but for something etheric to turn into physical is just impossible and can't happen. It must have that original organization of the atom before that can occur. Aliens can't just pop up physical bodies with DNA, and bio matter out of the etheric! That's why I don't believe that they are etheric beings. It just isn't a logical or rationale theory. I can see you don't put alot of your own thoughts into your theories.

You know very little about science and logic.

You dont believe in magic and believe in etheric  


Etheric to diescribe like energy is not very true...

Energy is very hard to define...

but for something etheric to turn into physical is just impossible and can't happen.

Why?

You I think believe very much in this two main energy laws( I dont know name in English)...

There is theory: Pure SPACE is energy: 1 qubic mm has more energy than ALL VISIBLE MATTER in space(matter = energy)

It just isn't a logical or rationale theory. I can see you don't put alot of your own thoughts into your theories.

Etheric realm is NOT very much logic and science.. then astral... science is still not capable for this

[PeacefulWarrior]

Interesting topic.  I have read several accounts of individuals traveling far beyond what we consider our solar system.  

It's good to be back.  I see Gandalf is a moderator now which is a positive thing since he has been a great contributor to the site.

[NickJW]

Well then i guess your theory is even less likely, that they turn etheric. It may be possible to convert matter into energy for their travel but not etheric in (at least not in the sense your referring too).

I astral project therefore it comes from my own experience, and it dosen't contradict any sicentific laws, nor can it be proven by them. I already explained why an etheric being couldn't make itself a body. Physical atoms don't just come from nowhere. And if you are not referring to etheric as physical energies, that makes it even less likely that aliens could turn "spirits" into physical bodies.

Really, none of your theories are plausible anymore now that you just explained what type of etheric you're referring to. I think I'll stick my logical, scientifically plausible theories before I start using magical theories as an alternative.

It's funny how you also won't comment on the things that contradict your own views. Why would aliens be etheric and not physical like us?

[grizli]

I already explained why an etheric being couldn't make itself a body.

Everything that is not proved impossible IS POSSIBLE  

Why would aliens be etheric and not physical like us?

Why would not???

I repeat: Everything that is not proved impossible IS POSSIBLE

I dont have true evidence FOR and you either DONT have true evidence against...

Its just speculation

[NickJW]

If it is just speculation why did you lash out at my theories saying that they were wrong? But my theories have at least been scientifically theorized, while yours are just coming out of thin air. And I think the chances of aliens having evolved on a planet like us is MUCH greater than all aliens being etheric...

[grizli]

But my theories have at least been scientifically theorized, while yours are just coming out of thin air. And I think the chances of aliens having evolved on a planet like us is MUCH greater than all aliens being etheric...

hmm...

Why , I mean what is the greates reason that you have such belief??

Why it is so ompossible that they evolved on etheric....

I just ask but I think alien abductions has nothing to do to aliens.. I thing its just a spontaneous projection in most cases...

[NickJW]

Why would no life evolve physically like us? Why do you think they would all come from the etheric, not physical like us?