First OOBE

[wizkitten]

Hi, I just had my first (limited) experience.. and, as simple as it was, it felt incredible.
I'll explain this as thoroughly as i can in case it helps someone. I just joined this forum to share my experience

I have so far, only been able to project using a lucid dream (but I've only been trying for a month). And my one projection was very short, and I didn't have much control.

Via meditation, I tried the rope method. This involved me lying down, and completely relaxing my body. If I was not completely relaxed.. I would breathe in, then breathe out and relax more. If any body part felt like it was tense, I concentrated on relaxing it with my next exhalation. I was sure to be in a position where I could breathe properly when fully relaxed, and not snore / have difficulty breathing. Once relaxed, I concentrated on imagining that there was a rope above me and I was constantly pulling myself up, and the higher I would pull, the higher my relaxation and the further I would leave my body behind as it drifted asleep. I understand that the idea is to fall asleep as I already do most nights, but to keep my mind focused on this task of pulling out. I have not had much success with this method, as I believe (as with most forms of meditation that require a deep focus) this can be difficult.

In my best meditation attempt, I have felt the back of my neck start to vibrate, and heard some soft, distant, humming... high pitch, so it could almost be mistaken for singing. The first few times I have always become too excited when I hit this point and I was soon out of it. I haven't been able to encourage the vibrations to take over my body.

The second form is through a lucid dream, I've found that by practicing the rope method (having my mind focused while falling asleep), I have been able to lucid dream more often. When I realised I was in a dream, I lay down on the floor in my dream, and thought "i want to leave my body". I was suddenly in my bed with a strong vibrational energy all over consuming my body.. like when you sit in a strange position and your leg starts tingling, except it was a lighter sensation, and pleasant. I heard myself breathing, but then I noticed it was out of sync, and this caused me to wake up (I wasn't sleeping alone this night). The next time, i had a similar start.. I lay down in my dream, and willed myself out of my body. I felt the vibrations and then 'sat up' outside of my body. My viewpoint was as though I was sitting, however I had trouble controlling myself, I pivoted to stand up but then immediately fell down so that my head was were my feet were.. I sat up again, and saw myself sleeping as I sat up, then I tried again to stand.. but fell back down into my original position, and woke up. It was as though once I turned, my body had momentum that I couldn't stop or control.

Next time I get to this, I'm going to try to think about the command "I will leave my body.. and stand up".. since this worked very well for getting out, I think maybe these self-thoughts may be helpful to controlling the experience.

Can anyone offer some pointers as to how I can better meditate to this state?
Anyone have similar problems of becoming too excited by the fact that it might be working?

Many thanks in advance.

[Colby]

That is incredible!  Congratulations!

I have posted my first experiences in a new topic (I also joined just to share and find out more!  It's called 'New Member, New experiences., etc. if you're interested in reading what happened to me this week).

I tried to induce an OBE, or Astral Project, whatever you'd like to call it, last night.  As I was beginning to fully relax, after about 5 minutes, my body slowly started to go numb, starting with my hands, then down my legs to my feet, and finally my torso and arms.  My neck did not feel numb however, and I started to feel a tingle all over my body.  Thinking I must be getting to the 'vibrations' stage (as I experience before, through a lucid dream), I began thinking of seeing myself sleep from across the room, as I have heard helps.  I never did feel any part of me try to leave my physical body, and this intense numbness and tingling lasted for a good 5 minutes, so I started to think maybe I should open my eyes and just try to get out.  Afraid I would snap out of it had I opened my eyes, I began to concentrate on relaxing, and slowing down the pulse that I could feel pumping all over my body, and hear very well in my ears.

Eventually, excitement did kind of overwhelm me, and I opened my eyes, and much to my dismay, I started to feel my fingers and it all wore off.  But I was very excited at my first night of trying to induce an OBE.

Any thoughts about this?  I'm just itching to have an OBE, after my sister told me about her first projection.  Very, very interested in having an experience like this.  It seems very spiritual, and in all honesty, fun.

[wizkitten]

I replied in your thread..
I was meaning to ask a question to more experienced people..
do you project with the light on? ..because I projected in the dark and I couldn't see much

[Greytraveller]

Hi Wizkitten
Those 2 experiences where you sat up out of body, tried to stand up and fell back down were partial OBEs. You came as close to having a full OBE as is possible without completely separating your astral/ethereal body from your physical body. The next time are in a similar situation try the Roll out Method. Try to roll out of your physical body on to the floor. This takes less energy and concentration and is much more likely to succeed.

Regards   
Grey

[wizkitten]

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

Some other questions I have:
1. How do you -move- once seperated?
Do you make self affirmations like "I want to stand up and move towards the door"?
2. My OOBE was very dark, should I sleep with a small light on so I can see something when I project?

[Greytraveller]

wizkitten
Moving in the astral is best done by willing yourself to go from one place to another. A spoken affirmation will help but should not be necessary. Just mentally decide where you want to go and concentrate on going there.
Any affirmation that you ant to use, whether it is an affirmation that you have heard before or one that you devise, will help. An affirmation is like autosuggestion in that the more that you use it the more powerful it becomes.
You need not worry overmuch about the darkness, that should get better (in general) with new OBEs.

Regards 
Grey

[wizkitten]

thanks for your help, i'll keep that in mind the next time i manage to project (hopefully in the not too distant future)

[wizkitten]

I just had my first 'full separation' OOBE about half an hour ago, so I thought I'd document it all now while it's fresh in my mind.

I had trouble sleeping/relaxing last night, i went to bed at around 2am and lay in bed till 3 trying to project. It wasn't working so I went and sat on the computer for a while and generally just wasted some time. When I became tired again I just went to sleep, I lay on my right side and gave up trying to project for the night. I woke up this morning at about 9 or so, but was in the almost-awake state when completely unforced I began to visualise the room from another perspective. This was confusing because I had not often attempted to project in this way before (I was always attempting the rope method). However, I have (before I ever read about OOBEs) often just out of interest tried 'tricking' myself into thinking that I was lying on the wrong side of bed, and to view the world and be oriented from that angle. I don't find this easy, but I can do it with semi-regular success.

So, anyway..  completely unforced and with no conscious effort, I began to see myself from a view point of the middle of my room.. and I believe I was in the state of 'duality' that I have heard some people describe. I was split between two spaces of mental orientation. I knew I was lying on my right side facing away from the wall, yet I was also viewing myself asleep in bed from the middle of the room. When this happened the immediate thought that "some people use this visualisation method to project, I'll go with it.." came to mind. So I did.. and I kept re-affirming "I want to leave my body, I want to leave my body". At this point my sense of duality vanished and I was completely standing in my room. I saw myself lying in bed but didn't want to look at myself because I've read that focusing on the body can draw you back in. Since I've felt anchored so strongly to my body in my first attempt I decided to ignore my physical body this time since I had skipped the difficult separation stage and was instantly 'out'. Interestingly, I didn't feel any sort of 'pins and needles' or 'vibrations' this time, as I did when I exited via a lucid dream. Probably because my sleep paralysis had already worn off due to waking up naturally and not forced while in a lucid dream (?)

This is where my experiment comes into play. I had a friend write something on a piece of paper, and put it on top of my cupboard. Affirming "I will have clarity" allowed me to maintain where I was without the risk of 'tipping over'. I actually walked to the cupboard (no willpower, i used my physical limbs for movement which felt quite natural). Then (since I am not tall enough to see above it), I began to will myself to reach the ceiling.. I levitated up and looked at the piece of paper and tried to remember everything. It was written in green highlighter and blue pen. The green highlighter was used for the important details, and then outlined with blue to give the letters depth like they were an outlined font. There was a picture of a pretzel on it too.. which may have been used in place of a letter (for example, positioned sideways to represent a 'B'), but I can't remember this clearly.. but I did have the thought somewhere in my recollection. The piece of paper said "you, as a danish bartender, are entitled to one free per customer". I figured "okay, I'll remember that" and then walked towards my door. Not wanting to become disoriented, I stepped through my door in one fast step. I walked past my living room and kitchen and walked through the flyscreen doors and tried to fly. I had a goal in mind, I have talked to another friend and she had given me a 'target' that I didn't know about in her house.. saying that I should check it out if I am able to project to her house. So, I tried to fly.. and had some success, but at first it felt as though I was just making large jumps.. I was still very grounded. Eventually I made a long shallow jump and was able to keep from landing.. I felt as though my butt was attached to a missile and I would soon lose the connection to it and fall. I had a strong sense that even though I initiated the jump, something else was pulling me along. I even went to the extent of putting my hands behind me to hold this imaginary tether so I would remain in flight.

I went through a park area, up through a large tree when something caught my attention. Inside the tree, stuck in the branches was a video game controller.. I thought this was strange, but kept flying. I approached a pathway not too far from my house (maybe 2 or 3km) and there was a lady walking by. I put my hand through her face and out the back of her head. She stopped mid in her tracks with a strange shocked expression on her face. She couldn't see me.. shook off a bit, and then kept walking. The thought crossed my mind to see if I could jump inside some other body and see if I could control them, but I didn't come across anyone else walking. I tried again to fly.. this time higher, when I found myself instantly awake in bed. Again, i did not experience any sort of grogginess normally associated with waking; I was just instantly awake. So, I immediately took out my phone and wrote (in the form of an sms which I didn't send) what I saw on the piece of paper. I saved the message and immediately after went to have a look. The piece of paper had "AJAX 499" written on it in red texta.. NOTHING AT ALL like what I had seen.

I went back to bed and tried to call my friend who had written the message.. He didn't pick up. Before calling again I had a strange thought.. both messages I had seen on the paper were very real, and I began to doubt whether or not I had actually stood up and checked the paper to begin with! But, I checked my phone, saw the message that I wrote and then knew "yes, I definitely wrote the sms and then checked". So the physical proof of my message validated that I did actually get up and checked out the piece of paper. What this highlights is the extremely real experience that I had encountered. It was so real and completely indistiguishable from reality that I actually felt the need to prove to myself that my waking actions were real!

I think my experiment has proven to myself what I wanted it to. I don't believe that I am actually "leaving my body" or necessarily believe in a soul. The out of body experience is definitely the most amazing experience I have ever had, and I will continue to pursue such experiences. However, I believe that the experience is merely a testament to the mind. For me, it really shows that the human mind is capable of some incredible things, but I do not believe that the world encountered while projecting has any bearing or necessary significance with the real world. It seems likely to be a world completely reconstructed in the mind. Either way, for those who have not experienced it.. feel free to make your own experiments and prove to yourself what you will. At the very least, you will have a most profound experience.

[Valkry]

Congratulations, sounds like you had a good first OBE. 

[T.L.]

I guess everyone is different heh. I walk and move like I would in the physical, it's like second nature even in an obe. The only thing I need to mentally do is fly. With more obe's you should get the hang of it for sure. The first few times felt to me like I was wading through water, after that I didn't have that problem anymore.

[Timandra]

Congratulations wizkitten! And thanks for posting, very interesting to read.