How to indirectly project

[floriferous]

I don't know if this works for everyone or just for me so I wanted to post it to see if anyone else can have success with it. The beauty of it is you simply go to sleep to induce it...

This indirect method works about 70 percent of the time which is pretty good considering it requires basically no technique. This morning I phased 4 times as a result of it.

1. First off it only works for me in the morning time due to the nature of the approach.
2. After being up for a while (sending my partner to work early) I go back to bed to do an exercise - this entails listening to a hemi-sync focus 10 exercise. Something like Freeflow 10. I only discovered this approach through the hemi-sync exercise failing.
3. So after a non-productive exercise to focus 10 I curl into a fetal position and simply relax with the intent to drift off to sleep.
4. From here I either fall asleep or I inadvertently project. I believe the reason I project so consistently at this point is because the hemi-sync has still left my brain in a certain state and all that is missing is for me is to let go a little more which attempting to go to sleep does (if I do fall asleep it is generally down to lack of sleep the night before),
5. The projection occurs one of two ways (obviously this is for me personally but who knows - this approach may yield a certain type of projection):

                         - As I reach the wake-sleep threshold there is a break in consciousness but my critical faculties are brought back to sharpness by certain pre-projection symptoms. For me this is not exactly vibrations but a slight buzzing mainly in my arms then a shift occurs. There is no rising out the body.
                         - Or I suddenly become conscious as an image appears before me that I suddenly become immersed in.

I am keen to see if this is the case for other people. For me another bonus of it (other than being a very simple projection method) is that it restores my confidence a little in my phasing progress. As you know progress can be slow and seem a little pointless at times when you have dry spells. For me this approach acts as something to spur me on and regain my excitement about the whole subject when things seem to have come to a stand still.

However, I do not consider it a long term approach simply because it is not controlled (sort of like the wake back to bed method. Good to get some under your belt and get some confidence up). I do stress though that doing this at night is pointless as you just go to sleep.

[rangestormer]

Very interesting and simple technique, I would give it a try, because it has been 7 months and I still have not had much luck. I just have two question fot you:
How long do you sleep before getting up and how long do you stay up before doing the technique?
Do you listen to the whole Hemi-sync, I think it was about 30 minutes, or less than the whole?

[Astral316]

This is basically how I induce all my projections... meditate/energy work regularly, wake up early morning, meditate/energy work, fall asleep, vibrations hit 90% of the time.

I don't see how it isn't a long term approach, though. As soon as I hit the vibes I am on my game control-wise, it's just a matter of taking advantage of the vibes while carrying over that degree of concentration.

[Micael]

This is basically how I induce all my projections... meditate/energy work regularly, wake up early morning, meditate/energy work, fall asleep, vibrations hit 90% of the time.

What form of energy work you practice? In another words what do you do? 

[floriferous]

How long do you sleep before getting up and how long do you stay up before doing the technique?

Do you listen to the whole Hemi-sync, I think it was about 30 minutes, or less than the whole?

I don't want to impose any set instructions on time frame because I think that is detrimental as everyone is different and it's about what works for you. But as an example, this morning I was up at 7pm and was back in bed for the exercise at around 8:30. I slept for maybe 8 hours

Yeah, I just listen to one exercise,

I don't see how it isn't a long term approach, though. As soon as I hit the vibes I am on my game control-wise, it's just a matter of taking advantage of the vibes while carrying over that degree of concentration.

I suppose I don't see it as a long term approach because it is not guaranteed and also there is a break in consciousness which seems to numb my non-physical senses than if I do it without a break in consciousness.

[Astral316]

What form of energy work you practice? In another words what do you do?  

I don't follow any specific ritual, honestly. In the relaxed and meditative state I simply try to create artificial sensations like the feeling of rising, expanding, falling, etc. Not sure if that is even "energy work" by any textbook definition but I'm raising and working with energy so I call it that. It gets to a point where my brain is in an "energetic state" so I quit, assuming I can fall asleep and end up in the 3D blackness which is often the case. I would like to have conscious exits and I always try, but I don't mind settling for my "controlled spontaneous" form of projecting.

[Astral316]

I suppose I don't see it as a long term approach because it is not guaranteed and also there is a break in consciousness which seems to numb my non-physical senses than if I do it without a break in consciousness.

Fair enough. I haven't had a conscious exit so I can't make that comparison just yet.

[Xanth]

To support that which floriferous posted about.

What he's calling an "indirect projection" method, I believe, is actually the EASIEST and most successful way that a person starting out can begin doing this stuff.

I'd *HIGHLY* suggest his approach. 

EDIT: To show opinion...

[Stookie]

What he's calling an "indirect projection" method is actually the EASIEST and most successful way that a person starting out can begin doing this stuff.

It's definitely worth trying, but I don't think any technique is easier or offers better chance at success than another. It depends on the individual.

[Xanth]

It's definitely worth trying, but I don't think any technique is easier or offers better chance at success than another. It depends on the individual.

Yeah, that's definitely just my opinion.
I do believe it provides the greatest chance for success though.
Mainly because you're already (pretty much) fully relaxed first thing when you wake up... and, you're also not quite all the way "here" either.
I find it so much easier to "slip" into a non-physical state from there... especially when I can manage to wake up slowly and without opening my eyes.

But yes, t'is my opinion only. 

[Naykid]

Yeah, I agree with Stookie, there is no one way that is better than the rest. 

There are so many different techniques out there, I think it makes things worse when someone is trying to go about it in a certain way just because someone claims it to be the best way.  Personal trial and error is the way to go.

[tweed]

floriferous, that Monroe product is a set of different tracks isn't it? And you go through each, one by one.. when you get accustomed to one track, you move onto the next?

So would you say it matters if you go through the process or you would be able to just go straight to this track you mentioned?

[floriferous]

floriferous, that Monroe product is a set of different tracks isn't it? And you go through each, one by one.. when you get accustomed to one track, you move onto the next?

So would you say it matters if you go through the process or you would be able to just go straight to this track you mentioned?

If you are just trying this method then it doesn't matter. Of course if you are trying to use hemi-sync properly then start with intro to focus 10.

[personalreality]

this is how i do it.  i don't use the hemi-sync bit, but from the fetal position on.  i just "go to sleep" with the intent to project.  i don't actually go to sleep but that's what it feels like i'm doing.  when i actually do it i have at least a 90%+ success rate.

the only drawback was that i found myself to be quite groggy when i first exit.  i feel like the grogginess wouldn't be as bad through a method like phasing where your mind is kept more or less awake.  it's like waking up into a projection, you're a bit groggy and clumsy until you wake up more.  problem is, usually by the time i've "woken up" enough, the projection ends.

[tweed]

Thanks  I used to do the same as personalreality too, but I did meditation on binaural beats the day before. A theory that the effect maybe lasts in the brain till the next day. I'm starting over with my 'practice' now so it has been a while since I've done that.. But I  used to wait for two particular times. One, when after waking up, feeling very refreshed, I'd just go as deep as I can, eventually blacking out and in some transition area. I knew that when I fell asleep I would not actually go to sleep because I was already so awake. The second, which I discovered by accident.. Sometimes I can't sleep so I stay up all night and then near sunrise body will feel very heavy (mind is still active) and then I lay down and close my eyes. OBE or lucid dream usually starts soon after or right away. I find whenever I can get the body very tired, it always happens. And..haha .. my recent discovery is one that happened after orgasm