I think I need some serious help... please.

[Save Your Servant]

Please, I hope somebody can help me.

My wife is an astral projector. She is constantly AP'd into other planes, both of Focus 2 and Focus 3 levels. Since she has been doing this she has become extremely sick, and doctors don't have any idea what is wrong with her. They have done every test imaginable to diagnose her but nothing.

I will be honest, I have always objected to her AP'ing. I am Christian, and I believe that other dimensions and realities are seperated from our own for good reason. However, I never used to interfere with her affairs until the other night when I got very disturbed by how she was acting.

I was speaking to her normally then she started hearing things that I was saying that I wasn't really saying. She began conversing with me, even though I wasn't talking. She couldn't seem to hear me telling her it isn't me speaking. Then she blacked out.

Her voice became a whisper, and deep. But it wasn't speaking to me. It was saying her name several times, breathing heavy then stopping. Then she would regain consciousness and think i said something bad to her when I did not. Then it would happen again.

My first thought, was Schitsophrenia. But that was until she went into another trance and told me "your lover will never be well again, she belongs to me" i became more concerned. I figured it was a spirit from another plane, so I spoke to it and asked it who it was and it said "Legion". I recognised that immediatelly as the spirit that Jesus Exorcised from Michael in the Bible. After it told me that I was terrified, and have been looking for help ever since. Nobody will help her, and she refuses to go to a psychiatrist. No church will do anything like Exorcisms because its not proven she isn't insane yet.

I only know about AP from what my wife tells me. So I knwo little. But you people are the experts. Can her AP'ing have allowed this demon through? Could this be the reason she is sick?? Can someone please help me?

[Naykid]

I don't think you are going to like the answers you are going to get, at least from me.  I just want to know before going forward with my thoughts, what kind of sickness?  You did not elaborate.  I'd like to know more about that first.

Thanks. 

[NoY]

Maybe your wife is pulling your leg

:NoY:

[Stookie]

Is your wife a Christian?

[personalreality]

You have to consider the reality that you all inhabit. 

Assuming your wife is christian now or at least grew up in a society that is based on christianity (which she probably did if you're from US, Canada, Europe, etc. etc.) then she probably has a worldview built on the idea of good vs. evil.  In this reality there are most definitely good entities like angels and the like and there are evil entities like demons and such.  If you add to that a very suppressed shadow self (the unconscious parts of her mind that her ego wants to deny exists, full of our weaknesses, fears, etc.) then it's not too difficult to take that next step into demons, possessions and poltergeists.  The bottom line is that as long as you and she believe that these things are not only possible but very very real then there isn't much that can be done about it.  The only real thing she can do at this point would be to call upon a helper.  The most common helper in this kind of worldview would be Archangel Michael.  She could call upon Michael to 'vanquish' the presence within her or any other helper that she feels connected to.

I'm basically saying that this is all made up in her mind due to years of psychological conditioning (which we are all subject to in one way or another, but for some people who are especially good at repressing their feelings this can be a very intense experience) and the only way to "combat" it is either to deprogram some of her beliefs (which would most likely involve giving up religion in the common sense) or use her beliefs to resolve the problem (by calling upon the 'good guys').

[horaciocs]

Please, I hope somebody can help me.

My wife is an astral projector. She is constantly AP'd into other planes, both of Focus 2 and Focus 3 levels. Since she has been doing this she has become extremely sick, and doctors don't have any idea what is wrong with her. They have done every test imaginable to diagnose her but nothing.

I will be honest, I have always objected to her AP'ing. I am Christian, and I believe that other dimensions and realities are seperated from our own for good reason. However, I never used to interfere with her affairs until the other night when I got very disturbed by how she was acting.

I was speaking to her normally then she started hearing things that I was saying that I wasn't really saying. She began conversing with me, even though I wasn't talking. She couldn't seem to hear me telling her it isn't me speaking. Then she blacked out.

Her voice became a whisper, and deep. But it wasn't speaking to me. It was saying her name several times, breathing heavy then stopping. Then she would regain consciousness and think i said something bad to her when I did not. Then it would happen again.

My first thought, was Schitsophrenia. But that was until she went into another trance and told me "your lover will never be well again, she belongs to me" i became more concerned. I figured it was a spirit from another plane, so I spoke to it and asked it who it was and it said "Legion". I recognised that immediatelly as the spirit that Jesus Exorcised from Michael in the Bible. After it told me that I was terrified, and have been looking for help ever since. Nobody will help her, and she refuses to go to a psychiatrist. No church will do anything like Exorcisms because its not proven she isn't insane yet.

I only know about AP from what my wife tells me. So I knwo little. But you people are the experts. Can her AP'ing have allowed this demon through? Could this be the reason she is sick?? Can someone please help me?

Does your wife take any medication? Has she got any health issues? Has she, or any member of her family ever experienced anything like this before? How is your wife behaving on her day-to-day life now? Is she "normal"? Or is there some constant change on her behavior?

If all of this is not caused by some physical issue, then please read on.


Allright, this goes a bit beyond what we usually discuss here on the forums, so I won't try to make a lot of sense, I'll just speak from my personal beliefs, despite this forum's usually more "methodic" approach.

When you work with your spiritual body, energies and all that fancy stuff your wife probably talked/talks to you about, you make yourself much more open to external sources of energy (read natural energies, unrelated to any living entity, and entities themselves). That is because the person who does that kind of work "shines" and works as some sort of beacon to lower entities attached to the physical. Their energy centers are more active than other people's and that opens up their bodies to external influences.

That being said, imagine you're one of those lower entities attached to the physical (trapped would be a more precise word). You need some source of energy to keep yourself running, so a way to keep active would be to suck energy from physical beings. Usually, these lower entities are also full of hate and despise for other lifeforms (this relates to, for instance, people that find it pleasing to watch movies such as Jigsaw and other cruelty-filled ones. That's how these entities' influences work and that's why they have the attitude you've seen towards your wife). They make a living out of taking the living from others. That makes them satisfied and keeps them attached to that person.

The more effective way to get rid of that is to call out for help. Not from churches, necessarily. You can ask for assistance from helping entities; positive, ethical ones. Like someone else said and you yourself referred to, calling out for Archangel Michael is of great help, for he is one of the strongest protecting entities there are. You can also call out for entities that work with the purple light/energy. That is, mainly, Saint Germain. Call out for these two, ask them for help. If you feel more confortable, ask your guardian angel to bring these entities to help your wife.



You should do that in the form of sessions. Purple is the energy of purifucation, cleansing. It takes away all negative energies. When you begin your session, ask saint germain for help and imagine your wife immersed in purple light, as if she were inside a purple bonfire. See that as a cleaning session, one that takes away all bad energies and entities. Try to be confortable with the idea of those helping entities being around to help your wife (I don't know how that fits your beliefs, but that's what's going on).

When you feel it's enough, thank the entites for the assistance and now ask for archangel michael to protect your wife by surrounding her in blue light. Blue is the energy of protection, it creates a barrier to negative energies. (purple/st germain cleans; blue/arch michael protects). Again, when you feel you've had enough, thank the entities for the help. Now the session is done.



You should be aware that the two of you are receiving that assistance, not only your wife. That helps both of you.

I hope this gives you some directions to the right path to getting your wife healed. Please keep us informed.

[Save Your Servant]

I don't think you are going to like the answers you are going to get, at least from me.  I just want to know before going forward with my thoughts, what kind of sickness?  You did not elaborate.  I'd like to know more about that first.

Thanks. 

Her sickness consists of constant fainting, all her joints locking and hurting, and stomach, head and back pains. She also has her mucles spasm, and she cannot control them. Doctors have tried everything to help her and have had no luck diagnosing her with anything.

You have to consider the reality that you all inhabit. 

Assuming your wife is christian now or at least grew up in a society that is based on christianity (which she probably did if you're from US, Canada, Europe, etc. etc.) then she probably has a worldview built on the idea of good vs. evil.  In this reality there are most definitely good entities like angels and the like and there are evil entities like demons and such.  If you add to that a very suppressed shadow self (the unconscious parts of her mind that her ego wants to deny exists, full of our weaknesses, fears, etc.) then it's not too difficult to take that next step into demons, possessions and poltergeists.  The bottom line is that as long as you and she believe that these things are not only possible but very very real then there isn't much that can be done about it.  The only real thing she can do at this point would be to call upon a helper.  The most common helper in this kind of worldview would be Archangel Michael.  She could call upon Michael to 'vanquish' the presence within her or any other helper that she feels connected to.

I'm basically saying that this is all made up in her mind due to years of psychological conditioning (which we are all subject to in one way or another, but for some people who are especially good at repressing their feelings this can be a very intense experience) and the only way to "combat" it is either to deprogram some of her beliefs (which would most likely involve giving up religion in the common sense) or use her beliefs to resolve the problem (by calling upon the 'good guys').

She is Christian, very Christian. She once was a Sunday school teacher. She had to stop work when she got sick, and now she is on a disability benefit. I have suggested she asks God or the Archangel for help. I just hope that it helps her.

Does your wife take any medication? Has she got any health issues? Has she, or any member of her family ever experienced anything like this before? How is your wife behaving on her day-to-day life now? Is she "normal"? Or is there some constant change on her behavior?

If all of this is not caused by some physical issue, then please read on.


Allright, this goes a bit beyond what we usually discuss here on the forums, so I won't try to make a lot of sense, I'll just speak from my personal beliefs, despite this forum's usually more "methodic" approach.

When you work with your spiritual body, energies and all that fancy stuff your wife probably talked/talks to you about, you make yourself much more open to external sources of energy (read natural energies, unrelated to any living entity, and entities themselves). That is because the person who does that kind of work "shines" and works as some sort of beacon to lower entities attached to the physical. Their energy centers are more active than other people's and that opens up their bodies to external influences.

That being said, imagine you're one of those lower entities attached to the physical (trapped would be a more precise word). You need some source of energy to keep yourself running, so a way to keep active would be to suck energy from physical beings. Usually, these lower entities are also full of hate and despise for other lifeforms (this relates to, for instance, people that find it pleasing to watch movies such as Jigsaw and other cruelty-filled ones. That's how these entities' influences work and that's why they have the attitude you've seen towards your wife). They make a living out of taking the living from others. That makes them satisfied and keeps them attached to that person.

The more effective way to get rid of that is to call out for help. Not from churches, necessarily. You can ask for assistance from helping entities; positive, ethical ones. Like someone else said and you yourself referred to, calling out for Archangel Michael is of great help, for he is one of the strongest protecting entities there are. You can also call out for entities that work with the purple light/energy. That is, mainly, Saint Germain. Call out for these two, ask them for help. If you feel more confortable, ask your guardian angel to bring these entities to help your wife.



You should do that in the form of sessions. Purple is the energy of purifucation, cleansing. It takes away all negative energies. When you begin your session, ask saint germain for help and imagine your wife immersed in purple light, as if she were inside a purple bonfire. See that as a cleaning session, one that takes away all bad energies and entities. Try to be confortable with the idea of those helping entities being around to help your wife (I don't know how that fits your beliefs, but that's what's going on).

When you feel it's enough, thank the entites for the assistance and now ask for archangel michael to protect your wife by surrounding her in blue light. Blue is the energy of protection, it creates a barrier to negative energies. (purple/st germain cleans; blue/arch michael protects). Again, when you feel you've had enough, thank the entities for the help. Now the session is done.



You should be aware that the two of you are receiving that assistance, not only your wife. That helps both of you.

I hope this gives you some directions to the right path to getting your wife healed. Please keep us informed.

I think I understand what you are saying. I will suggest her to call for help using your advice. But I fear that maybe she doesn't want help, because she doesn't want to believe that anything is wrong, even though she most likely knows it is. Could this energy that is tormenting her be Legion? Or just a hateful spirit? Can just bring positive energy around get rid of it permanently? I fear she will be hurt, or worse. She will not give up AP no matter how much I tell her to.

[horaciocs]

I believe that if you ask for the helping entities to help, they'll look after her and do something. It doesn't matter what kind of entities may be tormenting her, the thing is that I believe there are entities tormenting her. And asking for help as I told you could help her.

You can tell her that it won't do her no harm. It's going to be you calling up for help the the helpers doing their job. Tell her it won't interfere with anything she is experiencing. At least not for worse.

[Naykid]

Her sickness consists of constant fainting, all her joints locking and hurting, and stomach, head and back pains. She also has her mucles spasm, and she cannot control them. Doctors have tried everything to help her and have had no luck diagnosing her with anything.

This sounds like lead paint poisoning to me.  Also, she might be sensitive to high electrical energy around your living space. 

[omcasey]

It sounds familiar to me too..

Save Your Servant,
You may find something that helps in these links---

http://omtalks.yuku.com/topic/612/t/Breakdown-or-Breakthrough-by-El-Collie.html
http://omtalks.yuku.com/topic/717/t/The-7-Symptoms-of-Kundalini-Awakening.html
http://omtalks.yuku.com/topic/585/t/10-Things-You-Can-do-to-Help-Your-Kundalini-Process.html


You might also like to search the term 'transpersonal counseling'- it sounds like it would be a perfect option for your wife.  Here's a link to get you started:  http://www.naropa.edu/academics/graduate/psychology/tcp/matp/index.cfm.


the best to you,

Casey

[Naykid]

Casey... once again I find myself trying to find words that will not offend you. 




I can't....    DAMN girl!! What is up with that list, that list that is on every single link you gave...?  I'm starting to have even more doubts about the Kundalini thing.  I have to admit, I am impressed with the amount of knowledge you appear to have, but why so heavy handed with it? ... 

[omcasey]

I am not easily offended, Nay, I hope you will always feel to speak freely..

The links I offered were to the OP, if he doesn't see anything familiar in there he'll discard them and no harm done.  I know firsthand how challenging all of this is, I would have been lost had people not offered their help.  This is all I am doing right now.  This is all I am ever doing, and what I will continue doing- (just like you and the others, we all have our unique experiences to give from).  I do not know what list you mean.  Do you mean the list of links??

[Naykid]

I know you mean well, and it was intended for the OP...  it's just that there is so much to it.  You gave a symptom list long enough to describe any dysfunction.  It is starting to feel regurgitated.  Is there anything else to you but the Kundalini?  Can you relate without using that as a filter first?  It's almost like you are losing yourself to the Kundalini, if that makes sense...it seems to be the end all, be all of your existence and it's freaking me out.  

[omcasey]

I see, and I understand, yes I tend to be a highly focused person..

Kundalini is the word I am familiar with, for this reason it is the word I often start with, if the OP needs me to use another I will endeavor to do so in order to help it be more understandable.  In a very broad, general sense Kundalini is Universal Energy, the energy of the Universe itself.  It is as real to me as my own personal energy (/prana).  When it began colliding with me, consciousness, mind and body, I began exhibiting a whole host of new phenomena, abilities and symptoms.  Some of which have been quite painful, shocking and paradigm shattering.  Focusing in on what is happening and aligning with this event so that I ride it through with as little pain as possible is my life now (in fact, in a sense, my life depends upon it).  It is also what I am here to help others out with.  So, yes, when inwardly inspired, out it all comes.  The ones who it is for will know.. And the ones who it is not for will know..  It all works very well.

[Naykid]

I see, and I understand, yes I tend to be a highly focused person..

Kundalini is the word I am familiar with, for this reason it is the word I often start with, if the OP needs me to use another I will endeavor to do so in order to help it be more understandable.  In a very broad, general sense Kundalini is Universal Energy, the energy of the Universe itself.  It is as real to me as my own personal energy (/prana).  When it began colliding with me, consciousness, mind and body, I began exhibiting a whole host of new phenomena, abilities and symptoms.  Some of which have been quite painful, shocking and paradigm shattering.  Focusing in on what is happening and aligning with this event so that I ride it through with as little pain as possible is my life now (in fact, in a sense, my life depends upon it).  It is also what I am here to help others out with.  So, yes, when inwardly inspired, out it all comes.  The ones who it is for will know.. And the ones who it is not for will know..  It all works very well.

  So yes, Kundalini is pretty much the sun that you revolve around.  This is the part that scares me.. the whole saturation of your being.  Maybe this is why you are feeling like you have one foot in and one foot out..?

[omcasey]

So yes, Kundalini is pretty much the sun that you revolve around.  This is the part that scares me.. the whole saturation of your being.  Maybe this is why you are feeling like you have one foot in and one foot out..?

In very simple terms, the 'Ocean' itself is interpenetrating my 'wave' consciousness, in a way that I am aware of and consciously feeling in my body- reality, ie: the experience I am having is changing in accordance.  I like the analogy of third dimensional existence being a gestation period, and the Earth a womb.  When the Ocean (or Kundalini) begins impacting the wave (individual people), the equivalent of contractions set in and a sort of birthing process begins.  This leads to an exiting of the womb - planetary consciousness - and entering into Galactic consciousness.  

 

[omcasey]

Oh!
and yes, it is my feeling this is happening with us all..

[Naykid]

In very simple terms, the 'Ocean' itself is interpenetrating my 'wave' consciousness, in a way that I am aware of and consciously feeling in my body- reality, ie: the experience I am having is changing in accordance.  I like the analogy of third dimensional existence being a gestation period, and the Earth a womb.  When the Ocean (or Kundalini) begins impacting the wave (individual people), the equivalent of contractions set in and a sort of birthing process begins.  This leads to an exiting of the womb - planetary consciousness - and entering into Galactic consciousness.  

 

What does that mean?  It sounds like you have taken three hits of ecstasy... I really can't follow you.  So, when a big wave hits me, thus I'm born??? 

[omcasey]

That's okay, Nay.

Although it is nice when what comes through actually does help someone, I respect either eventuality.

Thank you for speaking with me, I have enjoyed the opportunity.


Casey

[Naykid]

  You didn't tell me what that meant. lol 

Come on Casey, what the hell?....  What did you mean in your last post?  I know you said simple terms, but it does not come together in my mind.

[omcasey]

Thank you for the invitation to continue, Nay, for now it feels right to pause here..

[Naykid]

Thank you for the invitation to continue, Nay, for now it feels right to pause here..

Casey, you haven't answered anything.  I'm sorry you are feeling a pause, but you did say earlier, "I am not easily offended, Nay, I hope you will always feel to speak freely.." And I am speaking freely and please know I mean nothing personally, I'm genuinely curious as to why you say what you say.  I need you to break down the lists that you gave earlier in your post(s).  You keep posting all this stuff, yet you don't break it down.  I need it broke down, period. If you want me to get this kundalini thing, then you need to tell me what you mean, without metaphors though.

[horaciocs]

Ok, so... this guy needed some advice, right?

[personalreality]

right.

i guess this means that nay and casey felt that we sufficiently answered him     

Servant, let us know if you'd like more suggestions or opinions.

[Pauli2]

Save Your Servant: Your wife should AP and then ask for her Guide and ask her Guide what to do about her illness.