Incubus Attacks...

[Mystic Cloud]

quote:Originally posted by Astir

I have never had a night terror without ghosts. Mostly unfriendly ones. If I don't take my medication (which prevents me from entering the stages of sleep in which the terrors take place) I inevitably have something attack me multiple times during the night. I hear a lot about how these experiences are all in the mind, but for some reason the ones I've encountered have driven me to believe it's not that simple...

The main reason being, that they yank me out of my body. After attacks like these, the next morning, I sometimes "wake" beside myself... Outside of my body staring at the back of my head. This is something I've never heard of in people who suffer night terrors. Most of the time people have the incubus attacks in paralysis, this happens to me too but that's only how they start. The things that come and visit me want me OUT of my body and they'll pull on my arms and legs until they force me out.
Naturally this worries me. What are they doing with my body while some of them hold me down outside of it? I haven't the slightest, but they chant and they encircle my bed while a few pin me to the floor.
Frankly I never want to skip my medication again.
Earlier this month, I spent a night at the hospital. It was a sleep study so they could figure out what exactly is wrong with me (even though neurologist and I suspect narcolepsy is the crux of it). I was supposed to not take my medication like usual, so I didn't. Of course I had attacks all night... And a hospital of all places is a lousy one to have them, being that people die within those walls often.

I just wish I didn't have to be on pills to keep ghosts away. I don't like chemical dependency.

Actually I'll give you some background detail on the OBE process.
Many think that when you get out of your body, you leave your body 'empty' like a seashell, but this is not however true at all. You are still as much present in your real body even when you are outside. You see your OBE is only a COPY of your real body. You get 2 separate memories, one for your OBE body and one for your Physical body. So you could be OBEing and doing whatever you like in the astral while your Physical body is eating lunch after a 'failed' exit attempt.

The benefits of being OBE when psychic attack occurs (based on my intuition not real experience) is that you are in DIRECT connect with everything, so that means you can summon up a real big blue flaming holy avenger sword and bless it with gods name and kick the living *S**T* out of those harrassing you.

You shouldn't be afraid of them, because that is what they want. They can only inflict terror and some 'pain' but no direct real damage. The real damage only occurs if they get hold of you under a longer period of time, and this can still be reversed to 100%.

I like to see them as 'sparring' partners. Something which you can train yourself with.

So my suggestion is: Give in to the fear and see what happens, if something negative starts happening become a Spiritual warrior and slice and dice 'em back to where they came from, otherwise just observe what happens and maybe you will get a gift (OBEing) for example.

[Gwathren]

quote:Originally posted by Mystic Cloud
Actually I'll give you some background detail on the OBE process.
Many think that when you get out of your body, you leave your body 'empty' like a seashell, but this is not however true at all. You are still as much present in your real body even when you are outside. You see your OBE is only a COPY of your real body. You get 2 separate memories, one for your OBE body and one for your Physical body. So you could be OBEing and doing whatever you like in the astral while your Physical body is eating lunch after a 'failed' exit attempt.

The benefits of being OBE when psychic attack occurs (based on my intuition not real experience) is that you are in DIRECT connect with everything, so that means you can summon up a real big blue flaming holy avenger sword and bless it with gods name and kick the living *S**T* out of those harrassing you.

You shouldn't be afraid of them, because that is what they want. They can only inflict terror and some 'pain' but no direct real damage. The real damage only occurs if they get hold of you under a longer period of time, and this can still be reversed to 100%.

I like to see them as 'sparring' partners. Something which you can train yourself with.

So my suggestion is: Give in to the fear and see what happens, if something negative starts happening become a Spiritual warrior and slice and dice 'em back to where they came from, otherwise just observe what happens and maybe you will get a gift (OBEing) for example.

Can "holy avengar" be also used against criminals who harrass you at night in a dark street?[]

[Astir]

I've always tried fighting back. For some reason, both spiritually and physically I am weak. Or they are just stronger.
In the hospital when doctors took observations of my sleeping... They did happen to catch me in the midst of an attack. Throughout the duration of the attack the only muscle that seemed to move (actually rather it was a twitch) was my lower left leg. Another thing they discovered was that my eyes were open and perfectly still the entire time, which comes to me as no big surprise since I cannot move them when I'm having an attack. My pulse rapidly jumped up to 180 and remained that high until the doctor came into the room and woke me out of it.
The state I was in was neither conscious or unconscious. Indeed it was in-between the two somewhere. It's the stage which most either bypass or don't stick around in. Being a narcoleptic, I either go right into REM a minute after my head hits the pillow or I get caught in a loop and trapped in the stage that brings visitors...

Unfortunately, I cannot will it not to happen. It's a physiological phenomenon. A symptom of narcolepsy. A device that the dead use to communicate fear.

One thing that I have come to learn is that low music prevents them, not from coming to me but from pulling me out of my body. A light being left on does not help, they have ignored them and turned them off on me before (which is something I REALLY cannot comprehend or explain).

Have good spirits come to me in a night terror? Yes, but it's rare. So rare in fact that out of hundreds of times it's only happened four, and two out of those four times the spirit that was good was cornered with me... Equally terrified of the others.
One of the good spirits once told me that some of these others were not dead... That they were coma patients. This of course only intensifies my fears that they are in search of new bodies to inhabit.
But who knows. The rest of the few good souls who have dropped in were children. Frightened children who attached themselves to my arm I suppose in hope of protection...

[Astir]

It's obvious I should stop talking about this. Suddenly my night terrors are now more frequent... Up to 10 a night. I wish I could be like the people who do not remember so well...

[Blackstream]

If you are too weak to fight them off, trying calling for assistance from someone that isn't.  I hear Gabriels sword is apparently a common one to call for.  Or just God.  Or whatever.  Also, I'd start practicing NEW religiously. Get up your energy levels so that you also have the strength to fight them off.

Btw, why do you call them incubus's?  They sound more like garden variety negs.  If they were incubus's, they'd be raping you every time.  Unless that's what you think they are doing to your body while you are held down o_O;

[findtruth]

I agree, energy work will probably help a lot.  You could also try envisioning a shield of white light around you before you fall asleep.  I've had similar things happen and calling on a higher power will often help.  You could also try calling on god or an angel or whatever you believe in before you go to bed.  And if you still find yourself in the night horrors keep practicing energy work during the day and while you're there yell your head off at them, don't scream or act scared if you can help it.  Chances are, they are feeding off of your fear like a great deal of negs do.  No more fear = no more food for them, though in practice it's more complicated and difficult thatn that.  If you don't want to be drug dependent, you'll have to learn to fight them off yourself.  I'm sorry I couldn't help you more.

[Matthew Kingsley]

Astir,

I read your post and am sorry to hear your having difficulties around
your sleep cycles. Although I have some good news for you. It sounds
like you have some natural OBE ability. Waking up in paralysis is one
of the hall mark signs you have natural OBE ability. Your probably
wondering what sleep paralysis is. It's when you  accidentally wake
up in your etheric body instead of your physical body. And sometimes
a loud roaring noise with an electrical feeling is present and
sometimes not but one this is for sure;  you cant move. The point is, when people wake up in this condition
they often panic and various things can take place. One - you manage
to move a finger or toe and break paralysis and awake. Two - you fall into
a dream scenario full of fear or terror and experience a dream full of
things that frighten you ( like alien abductions or spirits pinning you
down to the ground, the boogie man and so on ). Three - you trigger the
projection mechanism and or projection reflex and have a real time OBE.
Believe me when I tell you NOTHING can pull you out of body successfully
unless its a false awakening, lucid dream or astral projection and all of
these things happen in the astral dimension and is not dangerous. It's not
dangerous because another spirit in the astral dimension cannot damage your
astral body, and most of the time these things are symbols of the fear your
experiencing with sleep paralysis. Your conscious mind and astral mind
tries to communicate to you your own fear around sleep paralysis and sends you
into a dream scenario in the astral dimension. This is what's happening.
When you fall asleep your etheric body expands and is very sensitive to
outside influences and will snap your detached double back into your physical
body as fast as lightening and you will awaken before your pulled out anywhere.
That's how I know your suffering from frightening dream scenarios centered
around your intense fear of sleep paralysis. My advice to you is - when
sleep paralysis happens again, calm down and maintain it. Don't fall into a
dream scenario but focus your body awareness away from your bed. Like a few
feet in front or beside it. You need to have OBE's and you unconscious mind
is trying to tell you.

That's the truth

Matthew Kingsley
winterman@vif.ca

[anonymous57]

I have frequent visits from some wierd being that takes on the image of an old enemy. The problem is, although I can make it go away every time, it always returns. Any idea how to permanently destroy this thing? I've tried calling for help but it still returns after a while (but an excorcism prayer made it go away for about a month). Whatever it is, it's become a real nusiance.

[Matthew Kingsley]

This is a case of cause and effect. The cause of sleep paralysis is having
an excess of etheric energy available to the etheric body which is powering
consciousness away from your physical body, and the effect is OBE related
phenomena. It's time you  stop being afraid of sleep paralysis and try to
have a out of body experience when it happens again. If you get afraid you
will fall into a dream scenario, or you'll get afraid and awake by moving
body parts until you slowly awake. I know this because I use to have them
too. You have the energy available to have real-time out-of-body experiences
and that's why you have sleep paralysis many times nightly. You have out
right LUCIDITY during these experiences and this is a form of projection in
itself.
Consider yourself lucky and turn your out of control fear into controlled
fearless real-time projection. Next time it happens focus your body awareness
away from your bed. Either beside it or in front or behind it and hold it there
for as long as you possibly can. And hold on tight cause your going to have
strong exit sensations the first few times you do this. It will feel like
your blasting off on a rocket ship to the moon. Every part of you will shake
and rattle. But it's more than worth the effort. And believe me, this is more
than any physician will come clean with. Your experiencing dream related
phenomena due to your fear of sleep paralysis. That's all, and to successfully
overcome this fear you must meet it head on and control it with actively
changing your response to calm cool controlled real-time out-of-body experiences.
I know cause I've been there... And I had no one to tell me this. I was alone
but you aren't. Read this and go to work.

sincerely

Matthew Kingsley
winterman@vif.ca

[holy reality]

quote:Originally posted by Astir

It's obvious I should stop talking about this. Suddenly my night terrors are now more frequent... Up to 10 a night. I wish I could be like the people who do not remember so well...

garbage in, garbage out... you're right. stop talking about it, stop reading about it... don't try to pretend that it doesn't happen though.. just don't dwell... don't read literature about it, don't watch movies about it, don't read posts about it.

get it out of your mind and it'll fade away.

anyway... if you're reading this, you should desire to be pulled out of your body, then you are not defenseless, the very best thing FOR ME is to just clear my mind... FOCUS... and just... well usually grab this fellow by the neck... when I have him like that he really can't do anything at all, nothing.

He's powerless..... but of course he keeps coming back.. I think it's rooted in some issues i have with my life right now, and that he isn't real.

but anyway, seriously, don't go performing protection rituals, don't worry about having them at night, don't read posts about negs... don't talk to people that are fixated upon negs....

regardless of whether they are real or not i'm sure you've observed that the more you dwell upon them, the more they show up.... and if they were real.. THEY'D WANT THAT...t hey'd want you going out of your way to obsess over every little superstitious thing you could do to protect yourself from them, the more thought you give them, the more they know they are getting to you.

just immense yourself in positivity, don't deny the problem, but don't fixate upon it... when it happens you're going to have to try to confront it rather than force yourself awake and hide and get freaked out....

if you can just CLEAR YOUR HEAD while out of body and they are haslling you, that should be all you need to seize control of them.... they can tell you interesting things too, though mine usually spouts off jiberish.

he told me last night that i'm meaner to him than he is to me and apparently we have a telepathic link...

so...

anyway.

My advice is to stop dwelling on this and stop reading about neg encounters. You should see improvement relatively soon.

[Matthew Kingsley]

Don't listen to people who've never experienced night terrors or sleep
paralysis because they know NOTHING on the subject. I know about night
terrors and sleep paralysis because I use to suffer from them in my
teenage years. The only way to over come sleep paralysis and the like is
to control fear by making what is unknown into a known. I mean you must
try to control the experience by having a controled projection. Your
projecting into the astral dimension when it happens anyway. I know this
because of the discription of what happens. For example spirits pulling
you out of body and pinning you down can only happen in a dream related
senario in the astral dream dimension. This CANNOT happen to the etheric
body which is where you sleep paralysis is situated. From etheric body
consciousness your falling into a dream senario in the astral dimension
in the astral body where your FEAR of sleep paralysis takes shape in
a symbol of being pulled out and pinned down. Take it from me who's been
there. I have EXPERIENCE here, do you hear me EXPERIENCE here. When you
start to become aware in sleep paralysis you need to have a real-time
out-of-body experience to bypass possibly frightening astral events. Your
next question might be well how can I have a real-time out-of-body experience
from sleep paralysis. I'll tell you straight and true. First thing is calm
down because sleep paralysis cannot hurt you. Secondly picture the feeling
of YOURSELF standing at the foot of your bed or beside your bed and hold it
there by concentrating and focusing. It will be easy to do in sleep paralysis.
Thirdly IGNORE rumbling, buzzing, roaring, rattling and shaking sensations
you will feel. They CANNOT hurt you and are a side effect of conscious
real-time out-of-body exit and are just for the moment present and will subside
when you complete your exit. Another strong sensation present is your heart
will feel like it's about to go into arrest from pumping so hard. This is not
your physical heart this is your heart CHAKRA and frightening as the feeling
might be it also cannot hurt you in any way. When your out for a few seconds
jump back in to your body by willing yourself to move toward it and CRASH
back into it. This will end you sleep paralysis episode. You will have obtained
a valueable skill to turn your paralysis into and out-of-body experience.
With time you will learn to travel around your home in this condition. Think
about this long and hard, It's better than suffering in fear and feeling
helpless. And it better than taking drugs the rest of your life. It's making
what was unknow into a known or making no control into self control.

Your friend,

Matthew Kingsley
winterman@vif.ca

[ElectroBear]

Hi.

To my knowledge there is a open energetic link (energy channel they use) so we should find a way to close it as soon as possible.

You can do this in many ways. First – maybe you had a contact in the past with those entities (channeling, ouija, or even you was one of them – this is not a judgement, please be aware)

To close this link – try some or all of the methods described below.

Firstly – worst case scenario - Ask your victims for forgiveness, then forgive yourself, forgive others, especially your "ghosts".

Before sleep chant mantras – mentally, they increase positive vibrations and higher energies.
For me best worked "Rama" – I repeated it during great mental turomoil at nights and after 5-6 minutes came calmness and also strong relief.  Use "Jesus", "Buddha", "Jehovah", "Shiva" if you like. Do this also during your "dreams".

Ask God – Eternal Love for help. And then do the following – Choose your favourite form of loving God – it may be Jesus, Buddha, Rama, Krishna, Sathya Sai Baba – and imagine that you embrace Him closely. Say that you love Him. Keep embracing Him until you sleep. This method is one of the most powerful I know.

You change vibrations and the channel to lower astral regions will soon close. Try this meditation several times a day – process will go faster. But in my humble opinion there is some reason that you going through such experiences – so also forgive and ask for forgiveness as it may affect the cause of your problems.
Give this methods some days to have full effect.

Later pray to The Loving One for relief for those hungry spirits. In fact they are weak and miserable. Peace and Love be with you, them and us all.

Take care.

EB

[Astir]

I don't fear death. I'm an old soul.

[Astir]

LOL
It doesn't function properly...
Actually my body likes life on the edge. Seeing as at the tender age of 19, I have more chronic illness than all of my grandparents put together. The most serious being Juvenile Diabetes which is autoimmune (my body attacking itself). I have to assume my body is trying everything to kill me = P
It sure keeps coming up with new and annoying medical conditions.

[Abrashea]

Sometimes I fear it, then other times I feel like Im just ready to die.

And what about the reptillians? I get attacks from them nightly too[}:)][8]

[holy reality]

i don't think it matters what they "are"

....

anyway, i'm interested about this asking for forgiveness thing, it occurred to me do so last night... so I just kind of hovered in a dream and said i was sorry for a few things... i felt some positivity in me, but not much...

the same thing happened to me still though.... I think.... I know I later met an invisible being by my closet and it wouldn't really talk to me.... I don't know.

Anyway....

I've been through this really badly, I guess I didn't stress that enough in my other post... the key is just to relax and realize it's not going to kill you, it might be terrifying... but you know what, all you have to do is pop out of body and give them a beating down until you feel better... then I'd recommend asking them what they represent and why they are there, and telling them to nicely go away.

The easiest way to do this is to operate under the assumption that they are NOT REAL no one knows whether they are or not, so either way, the risk remains equal... running from them doesn't work, or they'd be gone by now.

Just try and calm down when the paralysis sets in and you feel a presence.... try to get out of body... or even ask it to pull you out of your body my experience is that it will, but maybe it's becuase that is what I expect.

Confront it, if it isn't violent, don't fight it... treat it with a sense of respect and try to understand what it is, what it represents, etc.

I told it I loved it last night, it said it loved me too.

I don't know that I love it though, but it does serve as a useful lucidity trigger despite being an annoyance.

But if you want to get over it, your best bet is to not read about negatives, and demons, and ghosts, your best bet is to read peoples  positive spiritual experiences.... expose yourself to happy things, reassure yourself that if they come back you will confront them.

Try and relax during the day and just say whatever affirmations might help make you happy during the night.

I think I'm almost over my experience.

Oh and you might want to try going to this "incubus removal planet" i stumbled across... if you can find it... or will it into existance.

http://dreamjournal.org/dj/index.cfm?do=getdream&dream_id=39232

there's no real wrong way to get there. Just look for a planet and ask to go there I suppose. It was kind of fun.

[Astir]

I don't think I'll discuss anything with the ones that look like dead bodies laying in my bed next to me... I don't know what the hell they are. But they're the worst. They just lay there and don't move. But I've remedied that problem with pillows... on either side of me. I'm walled in... Can't join if there's no room.

O_O The first one of those I had = me running down the hall into my moms room and hiding in her bed.

[Astir]

I have never had a night terror without ghosts. Mostly unfriendly ones. If I don't take my medication (which prevents me from entering the stages of sleep in which the terrors take place) I inevitably have something attack me multiple times during the night. I hear a lot about how these experiences are all in the mind, but for some reason the ones I've encountered have driven me to believe it's not that simple...

The main reason being, that they yank me out of my body. After attacks like these, the next morning, I sometimes "wake" beside myself... Outside of my body staring at the back of my head. This is something I've never heard of in people who suffer night terrors. Most of the time people have the incubus attacks in paralysis, this happens to me too but that's only how they start. The things that come and visit me want me OUT of my body and they'll pull on my arms and legs until they force me out.
Naturally this worries me. What are they doing with my body while some of them hold me down outside of it? I haven't the slightest, but they chant and they encircle my bed while a few pin me to the floor.
Frankly I never want to skip my medication again.
Earlier this month, I spent a night at the hospital. It was a sleep study so they could figure out what exactly is wrong with me (even though neurologist and I suspect narcolepsy is the crux of it). I was supposed to not take my medication like usual, so I didn't. Of course I had attacks all night... And a hospital of all places is a lousy one to have them, being that people die within those walls often.

I just wish I didn't have to be on pills to keep ghosts away. I don't like chemical dependency.

[Astir]

Sleep paralysis is now free of haunts. What is next?

[GorillaBait]

Well, how are you in general?

[Astir]

The mind is well. The health is bad. Thank you for asking. =)