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[Time Traveler]

A couple of days ago I woke in the morning and I was raising energy through my body and I had something strange happen. My eyes were closed and I saw a grayish reflection of my face. An image then opened in my head. It was like a cartoon..of a cat dancing. Lasted only about ten seconds and then it vanished. I had another one today. My eyes were closed and I had a flash of a picture. It was very fast but it looked like something that was outdoors. Does anyone know what this might be? I read somewhere about somebody describing these same kind of things.

[Eol007]

A couple of days ago I woke in the morning and I was raising energy through my body and I had something strange happen. My eyes were closed and I saw a grayish reflection of my face. An image then opened in my head. It was like a cartoon..of a cat dancing. Lasted only about ten seconds and then it vanished. I had another one today. My eyes were closed and I had a flash of a picture. It was very fast but it looked like something that was outdoors. Does anyone know what this might be? I read somewhere about somebody describing these same kind of things.

Hi Time Traveler,

Interesting!

Looks like some good clairvoyance or a couple of short OBEs. The only anomaly being the cat dancing, which sounds like simple hypnagogic imagery dropped on to your minds eye by your subconscious! Regardless of what terminology you prefer it looks like you had some good success.

I often get outdoor imagery returned to my mind eye. Please allow me to tell of a recent example I had at the recent workshop... I related back to Robert Bruce that I had was aware of viewing an outdoor scene – not dissimilar to the Brecon Beacon's location near Buckland Hall. Robert fed back that I most probably had a short OBE.

Now one might say that after a long drive and a couple of restful days at the Hall one might when in a deeply relaxed state rekindle such scenery! Now in my case the imagery I was aware of was form an elevated vantage point at least 50 – 100 ft above the countryside of tree lined hills and a lakeside. Incidentally although I knew there was a river nearby I had not been aware that there was a lake. I later double checked this and found that there was in fact one nearby. This got me to thinking as I had no awareness of dislocation from the body as the imagery had come to mind whilst I was sitting and feeling as if I was still seated in my chair in lecture room. How could I accommodate for this? One way might be to consider it as a form of remote viewing or clairvoyance. So if it were OBE then the only way to account for this would be that an aspect of my mind had perceived the scenery and on bringing it back to my body location as a memory to be replayed before my minds eye. Perhaps this was a type of memory download situation! No matter how we try to define and label experience - it was fun!

Anyhow hope this simple example makes something of a comparison with your experiences above.

Best,


Stephen  

[Time Traveler]

A couple of days ago I woke in the morning and I was raising energy through my body and I had something strange happen. My eyes were closed and I saw a grayish reflection of my face. An image then opened in my head. It was like a cartoon..of a cat dancing. Lasted only about ten seconds and then it vanished. I had another one today. My eyes were closed and I had a flash of a picture. It was very fast but it looked like something that was outdoors. Does anyone know what this might be? I read somewhere about somebody describing these same kind of things.

Hi Time Traveler,

Interesting!

Looks like some good clairvoyance or a couple of short OBEs. The only anomaly being the cat dancing, which sounds like simple hypnagogic imagery dropped on to your minds eye by your subconscious! Regardless of what terminology you prefer it looks like you had some good success.

I often get outdoor imagery returned to my mind eye. Please allow me to tell of a recent example I had at the recent workshop... I related back to Robert Bruce that I had was aware of viewing an outdoor scene – not dissimilar to the Brecon Beacon's location near Buckland Hall. Robert fed back that I most probably had a short OBE.

Now one might say that after a long drive and a couple of restful days at the Hall one might when in a deeply relaxed state rekindle such scenery! Now in my case the imagery I was aware of was form an elevated vantage point at least 50 – 100 ft above the countryside of tree lined hills and a lakeside. Incidentally although I knew there was a river nearby I had not been aware that there was a lake. I later double checked this and found that there was in fact one nearby. This got me to thinking as I had no awareness of dislocation from the body as the imagery had come to mind whilst I was sitting and feeling as if I was still seated in my chair in lecture room. How could I accommodate for this? One way might be to consider it as a form of remote viewing or clairvoyance. So if it were OBE then the only way to account for this would be that an aspect of my mind had perceived the scenery and on bringing it back to my body location as a memory to be replayed before my minds eye. Perhaps this was a type of memory download situation! No matter how we try to define and label experience - it was fun!

Anyhow hope this simple example makes something of a comparison with your experiences above.

Best,


Stephen  

EOL007,

Thanks for the reply and sharing your experiance. I have only been doing energy work and trying to AP for about 2 months.  The cat dancing was like a little video. All of this is still new to me and I hope that these types of things keep happening.

[Eol007]

Hi Time Traveler,

A pleasure...  

All of this is still new to me and I hope that these types of things keep happening.

I'm sure they will enjoy your journey.


Stephen  

[JAW]

As well as your question, Time Traveler, about imagery, Id like to know where hypnogogic images "stops" and phasing "starts"? Or are they the same thing? Ive had a similar experience just yesterday and dont know how to classify it. Can you "phase" into hypnogogic images?

[Eol007]

As well as your question, Time Traveler, about imagery, Id like to know where hypnogogic images "stops" and phasing "starts"? Or are they the same thing? Ive had a similar experience just yesterday and dont know how to classify it. Can you "phase" into hypnogogic images?

Hi Jaw,

Hope you don't mind me coming in here. I'm probably not the best person to answer here... but noticed that Major Tom answered a similar question you had on another thread, and I am sure MT, Frank and others more familiar with phasing might be able to proffer a better explanation than me.

I know this is slightly away from the subject: yet a similar question of differentiation occurs when attempting to judge whether imagery is hypnagogic or pure clairvoyance (psychic or mediumistic). People sitting for those types of development also experience much the same sequence of changing awareness of perception when moving from normal consciousness to whatever altered/trance state they intend to work with be it for clairvoyance or other types of work.

In early stages of development the student will often get all manner of imagery. Although they will tend to random and meaningless until one places an element of focus on the matter. A typical example might be where a tutor of circle leader might take a group through say for instance a meet your guide type scenario. In that case imagery may come into clearer focus as ones imagination is able to utilise the suggestions made by the tutor. Once the tutor feels that each member of the group has reached a comfortable level of trance an invitation is made for inspirers or guides to draw close into each person's field of awareness. After that it's between individual and the guide. To close the tutor will bring the group back to room usually by retracing the steps already taken etc.

For the perceiver typically (in addition to a variety of sensations) one might go from seeing the backs of their eyelids to some hypnagogic images static and or moving, then darkness followed by the formation of the classic vision screen maybe with some astral sight; then as the trance deepens the tutors suggestions might kick in and one begins to be aware of being in the visualisation. Perhaps one might move though it and they might meet and see guide or an aspect of them (perhaps a symbolic representation of them which one would say recognise from say prior contact etc), or at least an awareness of their presence. As the student is brought back to awareness of their physical surroundings... the imagery may simply fade to grey, but often some other aspect of clairvoyant imagery is given by the spirit or higher self (if that was the intention) before the meditation or attunement has completed. Any sensible circle leader would then ensure by observing each member of the group that no one makes a disturbance until everyone has come back etc.

For myself – I often have difficultly in going to an OBE state as along the way (I assume somewhere in Focus 10) I get caught up with awareness of spirit people coming in and get tempted to have a chat etc. Do have a look at Major Tom's thread 'Mind awake/Body asleep' see: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13644 by the way.

Although in that type of case I am quite used to differentiating between other impressions and spirit presence including imagery given and simple mind stuff thrown up by the subconscious. Luckily they are now used me to attempting astral projection and now seem to give me a bit more rope with that aspect of my practice.

A similar problem comes about with sensing energy, in that if ones has a steady practice of NEW or any other energy raising work it can become difficult to determine some aspects of clairsentience (feelings), again for example when working psychically with an other individual or with spirit. Many of the energy rushes and tingles ones becomes aware of when working with spirit as they interact with ones energy field feel much the same as the sensations ones experiences with energy work. So for instance the precursor tingles to the classic pre-exist vibrations accompanying projection can be confused with spirit contact. One way of testing this is to send a thought to spirit to seek confirmation that it is in fact them or not. This might also be confused or compounded if one is able to exercise controlled movement of energy to specific areas of the body etc. Of course practice makes one proficient with these things, but again it is always worth a double take if one is unsure.

Obviously similar issues exist with senses of hearing, internal sounds, smell etc. Yet gain practice leads to discernment. So if one works with trance states whether it be for channelling self healing, mediumship or psychic awareness and OBE practice... it really is a matter of choosing the manner in which one wishes to work by applying appropriate focus.

Again pardon me drifting away from the thread, but I hope that these illustrations show in small part that developing extrasensory awareness is fascinating, has a much wider scope than we might have imagined and can be a great learning and growth promoting experience for us all.

Best,


Stephen