visiting the astral dentist!

[Lizelle]

I was very amused to hear my daughter describe how she found herself in the dentist's chair while falling asleep last night. She'd had some cavities filled in the morning, and had a normal rest of the day. Then after going to bed she thought her cheek was numb again and then, while still awake, began to feel the drill and the guy's hand in her mouth. (not painful, fortunately). She explained how it's different from a sensory echo because this was "unpredictable" - she could even hear the drill and the guy chatting.

She's had these sorts of hallucinations before and isn't bothered by them as long as they don't interfere with sleep too much. She's almost 16. Her episodes started about a year after mine, and both of ours were spontaneous (e.g. not a result of meditation or studying AP). The timing made me wonder if there is some environmental influence at work.

Anyway I told her she'd been to the astral dentist and next time might be able to get up out of the chair and look around his office. Not much interested in that either. 

Has anyone needed to guide children through these things, especially when you're just starting out yourself?

[astraladdict]

You are all my children and i aid in the guiding that many others do.. I'm 15 i don't have any kids lol at one point i thought i did.. till i found out she cheated on me with someone who's past 30. ( my ex ex ex ex )

~astraladdict

[CFTraveler]

I was very amused to hear my daughter describe how she found herself in the dentist's chair while falling asleep last night. She'd had some cavities filled in the morning, and had a normal rest of the day. Then after going to bed she thought her cheek was numb again and then, while still awake, began to feel the drill and the guy's hand in her mouth. (not painful, fortunately). She explained how it's different from a sensory echo because this was "unpredictable" - she could even hear the drill and the guy chatting.

She's had these sorts of hallucinations before and isn't bothered by them as long as they don't interfere with sleep too much. She's almost 16. Her episodes started about a year after mine, and both of ours were spontaneous (e.g. not a result of meditation or studying AP). The timing made me wonder if there is some environmental influence at work.

Anyway I told her she'd been to the astral dentist and next time might be able to get up out of the chair and look around his office. Not much interested in that either. 

Has anyone needed to guide children through these things, especially when you're just starting out yourself?

Yes, I think every parent does- most just say "it's all in your head", some of us know better.
Anyway, I go with a 'remote viewing' kind of explanation, instead of the OBE one, because of their feeling safe is so important.  However, when she gets old enough and her experiences get more 'real', you'd be better off by giving her a book about it that is not belief-centric.
My son isn't interested in any of this because I am, but he  got all the information from me when he was old enough to want it, and I've added information in small doses as he's gotten older and had more experiences.
Kids are something, they can handle much more than we can imagine, as long as they know they're safe.

[Lizelle]

It didn't bother her, she was as amused as I was and was relating it as a weird experience. I'm glad she can distinguish that from what IS "just a dream." She's also way too rational to be frightened by a little "flashback." She figured if she ignored the ghostly dentist he'd eventually go away.

Neither one of us are prone to nightmares and so this proto-SP stuff doesn't take a scary form. I briefly mentioned that it was something she could explore further... but Mom is into new-age ideas, not her.

She didn't describe anything like vibrations. But that brings up a question I've been wondering: When we get these "hallucinations" (for lack of a better word) are we in the astral / ethereal or halfway there or what? These usually start before I get vibrations. They tend to be ordinary stuff, occurring in my bedroom (even if it's a person who shouldn't be there).

[CFTraveler]

Mom is into new-age ideas, not her.

Ha ha sounds familiar.  The other day I overheard my son on the phone talking to a friend and he said:" My mom believes in that stuff, you should talk to her".  I never knew what it was about....

As to these 'hallucinations', I think they're mental projections while in the RTZ or Astral 'plane'.  Or at least most of mine have a 'lesson' or 'information' content, that's how I classify them.
An author I know once told me that he believed a lot of liminal experiences are mental projections (not necessarily 'mental plane' projections.) I have come to agree with him.

[Landshark]

my parents did. when I was really young (7-9) I used to wake up with TERRIBLE night terrors. I recall just seeing the most awful things. My older sister was literally worried about a demon. My dad would stay in the room and repeat very calming bold words about how he's protecting me. I would sometimes "hallucinate" for several minutes after waking up and I recall seeing awful entities in my room because of the fear in my naive mind. My parents were AWESOME about this and encourage me astral projecting today, although they don't practice it.

[Boom]

Its an interesting one actually. Because I am all in the belief that there is more to reality than what we percieve.  We are born with 5 senses, and yet we are brought up to believe that these 5 senses tell us the whole story of reality. I would love my kids (if i ever have them) to be open minded to the fact, that perhaps there could be more out there. So if they hear a strange noise, or see something, or feels a presence. Then who knows? Maybe it is more, and maybe they could explore it.

But, kids have nightmares. Its part of growing up. And one way to calm the kids is to tell them its all in their heads.  You try telling a young kid "well actually you might be going out of body into another dimension and that monster could be real".  That isnt going to help.  So I think its a balance of calming them to make them feel like they're safe, but keeping them open minded.

I think if a child of mine said to me "Dad, i saw a ghost last night". I wouldnt just say "oh shut up it was in your head stop making it up" I would say something like "Well did you ask the ghost what his name was?  Maybe he was just trying to say hello!" Then reassure that ghosts cannot hurt people. Or something like that. I really havent decided whats best. Depends on the kid I guess.

[CFTraveler]

Like I've said before, I didn't discuss the "reality" of it, at the time I gave him things to do "if you have vampires in your room, remember vampires die in the light, so make a 'dream flashlight' and destroy them" that kind of thing. 
When he got older I explained it in terms of remote viewing- it may or may be not 'real', but it doesn't mean they're there with you- it's like using a periscope from a sub- you can 'see' what's out there.
This way there is  less limitation but there is also the safety issue, because that is the most important factor.  At least at a young age.
IMO.