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darksidessj25

This morning I had one of my most amazing experiences. I was in a large hall with my friends playing magic the gathering. Then out of know where the scene changed with these two girls and I. I remembered one of them from an OBE I had with her. She had red hair and looked like the girl from the little mermaid. The other one had brown hair and I guess she was her friend.
And I think I sort of invented a new method for travailing long distances during OBEs. I thought about using Goku's technique from Dragon Ball Z called instant transmissions. It seemed weird, but it worked! I told the other girl to grab the other girl's hand and she did then I focused on a place. I wanted to go to Hawaii then all of sudden the scene when black and the girl the girl with the brown hair said stop. Then we where back at the same location. I asked what happened? Then she said I ended up near Venus. Okay? Kind of far from Hawaii lol. After that I told her not to let go this time and then the scene went black again and I ended up in a tunnel of palm trees. I walked through the tunnel with them and everything seemed so freaking real! I didn't think I was in Hawaii because when I came out of the tunnel there was this gigantic head that was sticking out the water the water that was broke. It looked like a Buddha statue or one of those statues from easter island.  It was surrounded by rocks to the right of me there where rocks going out to it. Like ones you can jump across to get to it. The red headed girl that I seen before was standing up on a rock. And then her friend said she was going to go swimming. After that I started skipping rocks in the water and talking to the red headed girl. When I looked at the island and then back at her something just clicked. It was like I was in Paradise and I could do anything I want. I think this was a higher plane but there was know music conveying that it was.   

soarin12

Did you feel love and bliss?  That's what the higher planes (or so they are labeled) are like.  Some are formless.

When you say you could do anything you wanted, what exactly do you mean by that?  I'm thinking that doing what you want is a characteristic of AP in general -unless you mean that you were able to make changes to your environment more so than usual...just curious as to what you meant by that.

darksidessj25

Quote from: soarin12 on August 29, 2014, 00:07:37
Did you feel love and bliss?  That's what the higher planes (or so they are labeled) are like.  Some are formless.

When you say you could do anything you wanted, what exactly do you mean by that?  I'm thinking that doing what you want is a characteristic of AP in general -unless you mean that you were able to make changes to your environment more so than usual...just curious as to what you meant by that.
I just felt at peace with my self. So I guess i did feel it for a second. I had know sexual thoughts or nothing. I looked at the girl and then back at the ocean and then everything made since. I don't know how to explain it. It's like you could let go of what you judge from right or wrong and just be who you are. There was no evil or good in this place.  I felt at peace with everything.

Xanth

The problem with this concept of "higher" and "lower" is that I don't think they objectively exist.
Humans, by our very nature, love to categorize and list things hierarchically... as such, people in the past have experienced different "realities" and then hierarchically listed them by how much "Love" each reality exhibited.  One would realize then that the list is actually just a list of random realities one has experienced where one is more "Love" than another.

darksidessj25

Quote from: Xanth on August 29, 2014, 02:13:21
The problem with this concept of "higher" and "lower" is that I don't think they objectively exist.
Humans, by our very nature, love to categorize and list things hierarchically... as such, people in the past have experienced different "realities" and then hierarchically listed them by how much "Love" each reality exhibited.  One would realize then that the list is actually just a list of random realities one has experienced where one is more "Love" than another.
Exactly. I think that's what the OBE was trying convey. People are they way they are. Evil does not exist or good does not exist. I think that's what that place projected to me. I woke up feeling like that. Whom am I tell to someone right from wrong and wrong from right? What's evil what's good. 

Kzaal

Xanth is right on that,
The way I see things is that there's the astral realm and how we categorize higher planes as a step above shouldn't be like that.
Higher plan just means you have a better understanding of your surroundings.
They say that the highest plane is to be one with the universe, well it is true.
You see, and feel, everything around you.
Lower planes you feel different emotions.
They are like plateaus but awareness/emotional/celestial plateaus...
The higher you go the more bliss you will feel and... it's incredible simply...
Then you come back and you feel like helping everyone for no other reason than for them to feel that same bliss eventually...
The only way to go to higher planes is to accept all the love they're ready to give you. All the emotions.
I think you were pretty high up there cause you mentioned that you felt right at home which is the case.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

darksidessj25

Quote from: Kzaal on August 29, 2014, 10:25:04
Xanth is right on that,
The way I see things is that there's the astral realm and how we categorize higher planes as a step above shouldn't be like that.
Higher plan just means you have a better understanding of your surroundings.
They say that the highest plane is to be one with the universe, well it is true.
You see, and feel, everything around you.
Lower planes you feel different emotions.
They are like plateaus but awareness/emotional/celestial plateaus...
The higher you go the more bliss you will feel and... it's incredible simply...
Then you come back and you feel like helping everyone for no other reason than for them to feel that same bliss eventually...
The only way to go to higher planes is to accept all the love they're ready to give you. All the emotions.
I think you were pretty high up there cause you mentioned that you felt right at home which is the case.
yep. I wonder what plane though?

Xanth

Quote from: darksidessj25 on August 29, 2014, 18:02:11
yep. I wonder what plane though?
My perspective: Just another reality amongst an infinite number of realities.

darksidessj25

Quote from: Xanth on August 29, 2014, 19:05:00
My perspective: Just another reality amongst an infinite number of realities.

There are no realities. It's Just what we perceive as reality. :)

Xanth

Quote from: darksidessj25 on August 29, 2014, 21:11:12
There are no realities. It's Just what we perceive as reality. :)
Touche.  ;)

Szaxx

Perception is what we assume to be real from what we've sensed.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Kzaal

It's all connected.
Reality, there's no "Realities" there's only one reality and it's the whole universe itself.
It's all connected, there's "paradoxes" and parallel universes, and the astral realm/celestial.
But there's only one reality and it's the one everyone lives in.
Even if you die you'll still be in that reality because it's real, there's nothing that is fake in this world. Because you will still feel that you are in this reality(connected).
And the Planes are just a way to identify which stage of awareness you're in and how you are evolved as a spiritual being. It doesn't matter which plane you explore.
If it's not in reality... it doesn't exist. But even then, when you imagine something, even the thinking of that thing makes it exist and connected to the Reality in some way.

on a side note darksidessj25, if you saw a Buddha statue and felt totally calm maybe you just visited the Buddhic planes partially or had a vision of it.
here is a website with a good description of some planes
http://enlightenedawareness.wikifoundry.com/page/The+7+Dimensions

All in all, there's no right or wrong answers basically... it's just how we perceive our enlightenment and our speculations on how it is to be an enlighten spirit.
Each one goes to his own rhythm.
Also how we name things doesn't matter either cause everyone sees it differently! kinda confusing at first but it's basically the same.
Good luck on your progression!
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

darksidessj25

Quote from: Kzaal on August 30, 2014, 19:39:00
It's all connected.
Reality, there's no "Realities" there's only one reality and it's the whole universe itself.
It's all connected, there's "paradoxes" and parallel universes, and the astral realm/celestial.
But there's only one reality and it's the one everyone lives in.
Even if you die you'll still be in that reality because it's real, there's nothing that is fake in this world. Because you will still feel that you are in this reality(connected).
And the Planes are just a way to identify which stage of awareness you're in and how you are evolved as a spiritual being. It doesn't matter which plane you explore.
If it's not in reality... it doesn't exist. But even then, when you imagine something, even the thinking of that thing makes it exist and connected to the Reality in some way.

on a side note darksidessj25, if you saw a Buddha statue and felt totally calm maybe you just visited the Buddhic planes partially or had a vision of it.
here is a website with a good description of some planes
http://enlightenedawareness.wikifoundry.com/page/The+7+Dimensions

All in all, there's no right or wrong answers basically... it's just how we perceive our enlightenment and our speculations on how it is to be an enlighten spirit.
Each one goes to his own rhythm.
Also how we name things doesn't matter either cause everyone sees it differently! kinda confusing at first but it's basically the same.
Good luck on your progression!
Thanks. Really beautiful words man. I really appreciated it. That is what that place conveyed. It was just hard for me to form the right words but I couldn't find the right words to describe it.