Jupiter

[AngelicSaiyan]

Yes, that is true.  Out of all the mass in the Sol system, Jupiter and Sol make up like 90 something percent of the entire mass.  Unfortunately, (and, fortunatly for us) Jupiter did not get enough matter to reach that "critical mass" that is required for natural solar reacton to occur.  If Jupiter did do so, I would think Earth would be uninhabitable, and Mars would not have existed (look at the asteroid belt).  We are also lucky to have such a large planet close by (look at the S/L 9 comet incident).  It servers as a natual defense for comets barreling towards the Sun.  I;m almos't wondering if what you experienced is true or not, I have always wondered if them gas giants supported some sort of life, or had some sort of solid surface to them.

[Euphoric Sunrise]

That's a very cool dream! Have you explored the possibility that it might not have been a dream, rather a vision? I mean, i really odn't know what i'm talking about as i've only had a couple of brief lucid dreams and no visions, nor have i ever been "out of my body", but i thought i'd put the idea out there.

[kozzi]

Well, I have obviously wondered whether or not what I experienced was real or not (meaning: a vision or whatever), but since this is something that is somewhat impractical I don't worry about it too much...   it was just really fun!  It is interesting to think about though.  The weirdest part was finding out that the facts I learned during the LD actually had a solid basis in the real world.  That alone makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Kozzi

[Euphoric Sunrise]

It certainly does! As soon as i can project i'm off to Jupiter! []

[kozzi]

I once lucid dreamed of Jupiter.  I was on a cruise ship for my company's annual Christmas trip to the Bahamas.  We were on our way back to the states and it was early morning.  I'm single so I was in my room alone and trying to lucid dream that morning.  I've always tried WILD but have only succeeded once, but as usual that is what I was trying to do that morning.  Anyway, on with it right?  

I only remember bits and pieces of most of the dream before a certain point (the point of complete lucidity I assume).  Those bits and pieces were quite lucid, however and yet disconnected.  The whole theme was this:  I was "within" Jupiter.  I was being showed by "light beings" that their world is a highly intelligent one, but would not be recognized as even being life by humans.  They were showing me their "books" or records.  They gave me the impression that they had to show me their culture by giving me images in a human sense and in earth-like form, i.e. books, trees, buildings, etc.  I remember clearly one page of a book they showed me and the words "Star Phibrae".  I knew then that this meant star fiber.  They were saying that this star fiber is the form we would see if we were to see them as they truly are.  They were telling me that our science is rather primitive and very anthropocentric.  At the point of complete lucidity I was with one of them floating in the space between Jupiter's most inner layers of gas.  This being was still in human form and I remember that the key to my lucidity was his arm and finger pointing towards the core of Jupiter and he was saying "...they don't even know or understand that there is a world down there.", meaning the core was their world.  In fact, because of the nature of their bodies the core is them, and for some reason I felt as if this was the proof of their intelligence.  I could theorize about the reasons for this, but I won't go into that...  I prefer to stay objective.  After he said this to me I remember turning and facing our world and seeing how far away and small it was and feeling so humbled...  no, I felt embarrased.

One other impression they gave me was that Jupiter would eventually turn into a star.  I promise to you that I did not know anything about Jupiter, scientifically, at that time.  Only after this dream I had an interest to learn more about our beliefs and science about Jupiter.  It turns out that Jupiter is believed to be a failed star.  It apparently did not have the critical mass to allow its gravity to take over the gases and begin a nuclear reaction.  I wonder if these beings may have been telling me that the gravity, which our scientists to this day do not understand, could be affected and thus cause such a reaction.

Anyway, I thought it was a really cool dream.  It's effect on me lasts to this day, and is just as strong.  I can no longer take our beliefs too seriously...   I guess I've pretty much become an Objectivist!  

Kozzi