Fantastic LD, and then Projection technique

[Tombo]

Thanks for the tips realism!

The only point I don't really get is the transition fro LD to the Astral. Can you explain that a bit more in detail
thanks, Tom

[Syko Dragon]

Just make sure that if You're pulling Your finger that You're NOT around anybody, just in case You're NOT Dreaming and Fart...HAHA!

But Good Tips, Realism...[]

That reminds me of one thing that kept on freaking me out (every time I thought about it) from what my Astronomy Teacher once said pertaining to God...It keeps messing me up a bit cause it's like my Mind keeps on trying to Comprehend the whole Meaning of it...LOL...He said something on the lines of this:

"If God were Truly All Powerful, what is to say that he didn't just Create You and Everything this very second?  All Powerful would mean that He could have just Created All History, All Your Family and Friends, All Your Memories, All the Events and even All Your Thoughts leading up to this Very Point of time, and You wouldn't be able to tell the difference..."

It was just a Fun Example, I think, but he was Always Evasive about whether or not he Believed in God or not (the whole Education vs. Religion thing, You know?  Best to keep quiet)...

Good Luck Training...Until we meet again...

[realism]

Tom, the reason i was being kind of vague on the LD to Astral transition is because is isnt as difficult or complicated as many make it out to be. Most techniques given are often only act as a crutch, and limit your abilities in the astral. If you realise you are in the astral, you must make sure you really "Wake Up'. Often when people realise they are in a dream, they dont dismiss the dream images as "simply a dream". Instead they play around with them, and create their own little worlds. But people often lose this and just slip into other dreams again. So, when you realise you are dreaming, make sure you REALLY wake up, and dismiss the dream images, Then just "will" yourself to the astral. This dont be done by thought, or even by a command, as that intent often works wonders in the astral. As i said, you can also view yourself rising out of your body, as many people need an exit technqiue as such to be able to do the transition. But such a technique isnt necessary, since we go to the astral to dream anyway, its just that its clouded by dream images. Why go back to your body when your already there?...
Hope this cleared things up a bit, if not, remember, its all just a dream...

By the way, are you sure your not dreaming now...?

[Tombo]

Thanks Realsim
Well I must say I still don't  understand you completly [:I], Maybe cause my mother tonque isn't english. What do you mean by really wake up in the astral? You don't mean waking up physically, i guess. How do you dismiss the dream images? When do you know you're really in the asral amd not in a dream world?
Thanks for your patience, Tom

And well, I think I'm kind of dreaming all the time

[realism]

Tom, basically the astral is where you go to dream. But, when most people realise they are dreaming, and become lucid, they dont really "wake up". By this i mean that even though they are aware they are dreaming, they still treat the dream as if it were real, except for the fact they are in control. When i say "Wake up" I dont mean physically, i mean mentally. When you reaslise you are dreaming, really make an effort to dismiss the images, as "Only a dream". So, just completely disregard them, and concentrate on going to the astral. Its not a specific excercise that requires an exact technique. I talk about in a vague general sense, because it can be done in a vague and general way. Hope this clears it up a bit more.

[Tombo]

Thanks Realism, I think I really understand you now! It's very interessting, what you're saying! I'm gonna investigate that for myself.
see you later Tom

[realism]

Ok, i have noticed after alot of browsing, that alot of the Lucid Dreaming techniques pertain to getting to the astral from a lucid dream, well i can help. Both with that, and also having lucid dreams.

Ever noticed how your dreams often contain scenes and images from everyday life? If you didnt allready know, our dreams, apart from occasionally containing spiritual content, are usually just projections from our subconsciousnes. This technique uses that to wake in a dream.
During the day, constantly question whether you are dreaming or asleep, (id say try and to it a minimum of 30 times) Make sure you really question whether or not you are dreaming, look at things as if you are seeing them for the first time. Then while questioning, try one of these two things. 1. JUMP! in the astral, if you jump, you will most likely fly. 2. Try and stretch your finger, by pulling it. Astral matter is different, so if your in the astral/dream, you will realise you are dreaming. Now, you may be saying, "wouldnt i have to be lucid already to have the consciousness to do these things? the answer is no. By repeating the activitys many times during the day/s, your subconsciousnes will eventually put you in a scene like that during your dream. Eg, while in your dream, you jump, when you fly, the questioning you did throughout the day will kick in, and you will become lucid. Because of the awakening nature of this technique, it is then easy to have a full astral experience form this state. All you must do, is ask. Simply state (out loud if you wish) that you wish to go to the astral, and even specify a place, to make sure you arent just creating the scene. You can do this, or you can concentrate on your astral self rising out of your body, but this may bring back awareness of your physical body, which can send you back to it.

Hope this is helpful,
Peace.