First serious lucid dream

[steveb]

Greetings Joe,  I know how you feel, in my twenty's I was full on with lucids. Every night I'd have about three, it was like going to the movies each night. Those around me thought I was crazy, If someone knocked on the door whilst in the middle of one, I'd get up, staying in a trance like state I'd open the door, go back and finish it off. I got sucked into lifes vacum and let the ability slide.  It's only lately that the lucids are comming back. It's hard to explian to some one how these things effect your physical well being, and it's free.To be excited about going to sleep is a great feeling. Thanks for the post, the wonder of your newly aquired tool shines through.

Regards  Steve

[Joe]

Hey Steve - thanks for the positive feedback. I'm dead keen to get into LDs much more - they have so much potential for inner discovery.

Does anyone have a way to contact or explicitly have a dialogue with one's subconscious through LDs? This would be my main area of exploration first, rather than just random "interesting" dreams. I'm looking to talk intimately with the subconscious for learning/healing/self-improvement. I just haven't heard of anyone interacting directly with their inner self in LDs as one would talk to another person or something (if that's even possible!).

Thanks again mate.

[steveb]

Greetings Joe,

I found when having the lucids over a two to three year period they were great inregards to self improvement. It's very difficult though to work out the symbology of things.Most items,scenes and situations in a lucid I could account as to why they appeared .They came from memmory stock useually from the past two weeks prior to the lucid It was as if I'd gone to a phycologist and asked them to put me in a trance and tell me whats been on my mind for the past two weeks.

As for...... Does anyone have a way to contact or explicitly have a dialogue with one's subconscious through LDs? ..........I never tried it,and I would think from my expierances with lucids I dont think it would be possible.

It's like:           Dreams   :  your watching a movie
                     Lucids     :  your in the movie
                     Astral      :  your in the movie and can and ask director about movie via a 3rd party
                 Mental plane :  You can feel the directors presence
          higher planes      :  " I'd dearly love to know"


Regards  Steve

[Joe]

This probably isn't much to all you hardcore lucid dreamers out there, but I come from an environment of sleep deprivation and unremembered dreams so achieving high lucidity is something special for me. Anyway, this happened for the first time last night. I suspect that my usual dreaming was taking place, but in this particular dream I looked radically different - skinnier face, wider mouth, and disturbingly almost no muscle at all on my torso - just a bony ribcage. When I saw myself in a dream mirror, this gave me an emotional jolt as I am taller, and more muscular in real life. I then turned side on and saw I had a hunch back! The shock from this caused me to become very conscious, and some of my waking mental processes started up inside the dream. I felt myself up and down looking for reasons why I was suddenly this other man, but I quickly started thinking, "Joe, this is a dream. It's got to be a ****ing dream!"  Soon after that, sure that I was in a dream, I started mucking around with the environment, testing that I could make objects appear and disappear. This is harder than it seems (for me anyway). Simply willing something to happen is not enough, because the subconscious is stil creating the object. I usually had to turn away and keep a mental expectation that they would be different when I turned back again.

I experiemented with flying, which was hard at first even in a dream, but soon got the hang of feeling/mapping my own trajectory in the air and my flight followed it well after that. The dream twice changed environments for me, through association with what I was thinking in the previous environment. I went with it, and the most bizarre thing by far is that I met a number of people who all seemed to know me, and vice versa, and who I have been having a history with. This included some bizarre characters, friends as well as girlfriends. I questioned them about how they know me, and was shocked to hear claims that I'm over their place most of the time, that she's known me for years, etc. Of course, these were almost certainly mental creations, but probably long term ones, so I had no qualms about making her clothes disappear and testing the limits of ludicity. Strangely enough, I found it quite easy to maintain focussed erotic thoughts and actions without harming the clarity of the dream state, and even the orgasm was a "dreamt" one, having no real life consequence.

The beautiful thing about it, and that has now motivated me to put some effort into LD, was the many strange and wonderful places and mental creations possible. The dream felt like it lasted for 4 waking hours, although it was possibly 30mins of REM only, and apart from typical human mundane stuff, I remember other stuff like being in a strange land, flying low over a gigantic river, where these massive and weird looking whales would race long beside me like dolphins, jumping out of the water. They were red and had green fins, and the water would come of the river with them, so that they had a permanent arc of water extending above the waterline and follow them down the river.

Anyway, enough ramble. Again I'm sure the hardcore LD'ers are way past this, but it's just got me started in an area I would never have looked at before.

All the best