Not like me to share a dream but what the heck...

[AstralBorn]

MisterJingo, Questioning is one thing, Disbelieveing straight away like most of you do is being closedminded...

"For example you could explain why I can't see real objects like for example a playing card correctly when I'm out of body. And how i can fix that problem. "

You could probably start by actuly going out...
The most common cause of not being able to see properly is because you havent enough consciousness in your astral body...

Second most common is your to far away from the physical world...
Lower yourself...

[Tombo]

You could probably start by actuly going out...
The most common cause of not being able to see properly is because you havent enough consciousness in your astral body...

I don't understand what do you mean by actuly going out? You mean get more awareness while out? How can I get more consciousness while out?

Second most common is your to far away from the physical world...
Lower yourself

How can I lower myself?

Thx for the answers! One more thing, is it possible for you to, lets say visit any place in the real world with our Astral body and correctly perceive it? I mean like going to New york and see the color of the T-shirt somebody is wearing?

Tom

[AstralBorn]

"I don't understand what do you mean by actuly going out? You mean get more awareness while out? How can I get more consciousness while out? "
When you project you move your consciousness out of your physical body and put it into your astral body...
However... As most people... allthough they understand no harm will come to them they still leave some behind to help keep there body safe...
When you leave your body take all your consciousness with you...
You have to truely understand, and know no harm will come... and that your subconscious mind will keep your physical body alive and safe... if you understand that then you should be able to go compleatly out...

"How can I lower myself? "
Sorry, I cannot actuly help you there...
When I want to go higher or lower I just do it... I dont know how you would go about it... it's upto you to figure out... it not suposed to be hard

"is it possible for you to, lets say visit any place in the real world with our Astral body and correctly perceive it? I mean like going to New york and see the color of the T-shirt somebody is wearing?"
By you, you mean me personly? you a universal you?
Well, Doesnt matter realy... cause either way the answers yes...
it just takes alot of practice... for someone that cannot do it naturaly...

[Tombo]

So we could set up a little experiment! That would be very easy then. We just fix a time we both go online, you travel to me with your Astralbody and I hold a object in my hand, then you write in the forum what it was and I tell you if you got it.

That would be cool!  Will you try that?

[AstralBorn]

Yes... It would be cool... And I would love to try it... However... It doesnt quite work like that, and I dont have the time to explain it all...

Theres a big problem going on in my life right now so... perhaps some other time we could try it...

[Sepultura123]

It would be hard to meet each other because you have to had an OBE at the same time and that you will be in the same vibratory state.

The vibratory state is the amount of vibration you are getting in your physical body because of the chakra. Thats what can project you. If your not in the same vibratory state (or plane) you can't find him.

[Tombo]

Yes... It would be cool... And I would love to try it... However... It doesnt quite work like that, and I dont have the time to explain it all...

Theres a big problem going on in my life right now so... perhaps some other time we could try it...

ok, I wish you the best, and maybe later we can try.............

[Sepultura123]

You need real luck if you want to try that.

[AstralBorn]

Sepultura123,
"It would be hard to meet each other because you have to had an OBE at the same time and that you will be in the same vibratory state.

The vibratory state is the amount of vibration you are getting in your physical body because of the chakra. Thats what can project you. If your not in the same vibratory state (or plane) you can't find him. "
That is 100% not so...
You dont have to be in the same plane to meet each other...