Vivid, but not making sense...

[TheSeeker]

Interesting post Nay, I love reading about other's dreams.

[Nay]

Thanks Seeker,

I love reading other peoples dreams too. [] Do you have any to share?

I had one this morning, that was intersting also. (well to me) I wrote it down right away so I will take it straight from my Journal..I apolozise that they are long, but I have long dreams...what can I say.

I was in some parking deck, couldn't find the car.  Finally found my car all alone from all the other cars.  But instead of getting in my car I get in a car with a girl (light,long brown hair, my height 5'6")  I am not driving, we are in a town, with traffic, traffic lights, and pedestrians.  We come to a interstection and take a right. (there was a road sign, recall the number  drove into a mechanics garage.  We get out of the car, just standing around.  I noticed a couple of other people but don't speak to them.  I want to leave so the girl w/brown hair offers to drive me.. another girl wanted to come, but I pulled her to the side and nicely tell
her "no", that the other girl needed to talk to me.  We get in the car, and the girl is laughing and saying something about bruises..I tell her that I didn't grab her (girl who wanted to come with) that hard and didn't hurt her.  We start down the street and she runs a red light..I tell her this and she just laughs and looks into the rearview mirror and says "that's ok, so did (can't remember name but feel it was a woman)

*Scene changes*
We are in a library...I have definately been here, I recognize the lady behind the desk.. (late 60's, slim, short light hair, but not grey, and glasses) there was a line of kids waiting to check out their books. I walk around a bit and at one point I have a paperback in my hand...but put it down somewhere.  I see a few adults w/ children.  I recall smiling at one child and rubbing her head as I pass her.  I look up on the top shelf and see a really big book at least 3ft by 2ft..I take it down and start looking thru it, I know I saw pictures, and some words...but I can't recall them.  I put the book down and start looking for the girl I came with.  I find her and she is sitting on the floor playing with some childs toy.  I bent down and when I pushed on the back of the toy and it jumped..it was a TINY little rabbit toy.  I felt that the girl had regressed back to a child.. I would have kept going with this dream, but of course the damn phone woke me up...I am going to start unplugging it.

I think when I had the paperback in my hand I should have looked at it but didn't...so when I found the big book I think that was my subconscience (sp?) trying to say OK>>the little book didn't work, look at this one!  of course I didn't try hard enough.  I have found that it is VERY difficult to read stuff while in dreams, OOB, ect.. And the few times I have been able to do it was a real struggle, because I would start coming out of it and have to pull myself back into the "dream" several times I would have to do this.  I managed to read about my pastlives that way..kinda funny cause while I was doing this I recall someone saying, "I don't think your suppose to be able to read this"

Anyway.. I am curious about this library..?? I know I have been there at least one other time.  Has anyone else had a dream OOB, ect.. about a library?

Nay. []

[kromeknight]

Hello Nay  []
I had a library encounter recently. I was meditating waiting for AP/obe. In one of the visions I had I was in a very large library with books many storys high. The only other person there was on a moving stair trolly thing. I asked a question, but I can't remember what now. Anyway I got onto the stairs and it shot off at great speed down the rows of books, up until then everything was in first person view. Then I seemed to have split into three as I tried to keep up with the moving stairs , one was on the platform another holding on to the platform horizontally and one watching the hole scene with quite a bit of amusement. My view switch between all three of me. the vision ended shortly after but it was fun to experience.
ps I love reading your dreams too []

[Nay]

Hey Timeless

The more I think about it, these dreams I have been having lately, seem way too real for it to be my sub-conscious telling me I need to be or change something...I totally remember having been at that library before!!  I think I am going somewhere in the different realms that I have read about.  I am also quite aware what is goin on around me, I just choose to go with the flow.. I feel no certain pull or anything like that.  The only reason why I feel and sound so confident is of the dreams I had last night and this morning.

Let me explain... I have had this cold for about three or four days now, and it is not getting better, it's going to my chest and my right ear now is having problems which is screwing with my equilibrium. I have still be tryin nightly (more just for the practice) to have an AP..but of course, I can't even get to any of the exit stages (well I don't remember) But the dreams have gotten more in numbers and vividness. Any way, I read somewhere in one of the forums.(and if anyone can help me with this I would really appreciate it) that when we are sick we are unable to go to higher planes.  I also read about some plane where all the thiefs and whatnots hang out, or spirits whom like to take on the appearance of someone you know or a movie star..[}:)]

I haven't had a nightmare for quite awhile..  Last night I found myself at some house party...nothing really out of the ordinary..expect the fact that the guy from Mad T.V. was there...lol..(can't recall his name, it's the tall guy with dark hair that plays the little boy that has a personal space problem)
There were lots of people I didn't even bother to take notice of. Some kid gave me a ring put it on my left index finger..I laughed and took it off cause it was UGLY...very gothic, silver with a big red stone in the middle.  Then I noticed the t.v. Ok, this was weird, but I just continued to observe.  One the tv was a man whom was surrounded by zombies..ok don't laugh..lol.. and weirder still there were two small people with really big heads GNAWING on his neck..and I mean gnawing..tearing flesh ect...well I really didn't feel the need to stare at this too long, it did make me a little nervous but nothing I couldn't handle.  I leave the house and find I am in a city of sorts..stuck in a perpetual night time.  I start walking down the sidewalk looking around.  There are shops and houses all connected. A crowd of people around one shop catches my interest, I go to see what they're looking at.. It's another tv with the same scene going on...I ask someone standing there "is this for real, do you believe this"?  They belive it, and tell me that man is a reporter.  I laugh and say.."that is not real I could do a better job with a fx make-up kit..those zombies look like their from a bad B-Movie"  But if I continue to look at it, it does make me uncomfortable.  So, I continue on my way.  I come to a restaurant, go inside and get this...Sandra Bullock comes running to me like I am some long lost friend..lol...She says, "come on, follow me" and takes off running. I run after her, and she's laughing because she is beating me, but that competitive nature in me comes out, and I pass her up..lauging the while.  She brings me to yet ANOTHER tv..!!  Ok, I am starting to get a little ticked and perplexed with the stupid tv thing.  And each time I look at the scene it disturbs me just a little bit more.  I leave her standing there, and end up in a Hotel.. a few employees ask me if I will help deliver some packages to a certain room.  I am here to please, so sure why not?  We go into this room...really nice room very posh! with gifts all over the place.  There were boxes and boxes lining one wall...One was a cookie making thingy..lol..can't recall the rest.  I make my way into the sitting room and low and behold...another tv..aarrrggghhh... but I don't look at it, I put my back to it, then notice....Eddie Murphy...yeah you heard me..lol...he was sitting on the floor with his back against the sofa..with several people also around him...He jumps up and is all nice..ok, I admit I am a little impressed that it's Eddie Murphy, but the minute he tried to turn me around to look at that damn tv, I was outa there.  Well, I now realize someone wants me to look at that tv..so I just wake up..
I stay awake for 30min or so, and jot down a few things from this experience so I don't forget.
I lay back down and relax, knowing I am not going to have a conscious AP, and go right into another dream (I don't like calling it that, cause perhaps I am APing and just not recalling the seperation and all?? it's way too vivid and too much detail)
I am at some mall, it's not as dark and gloomy as the first experience. I have a cart full of some stuff..tube socks was a big thing..lol..Well, some thugs started to take it out and steal it.  One guy in paticular started stuffing the socks in his shirt! I run over to him and start hitting him and getting my socks back...lol..but while I am dealing with him more guys start taking the rest of the stuff..I couldn't take them all at once, so looked around for help. NO ONE will listen to me...very frustrating..Then my mom appears and I say "they are stealing all my stuff" she comes back with a stupid remark "well, it's good stuff to steal"  I think oh, that's nice, thanks for the help [] I just give up, and wake up!  I hate stuff that frustrates me...lol..

So, what cha think?  am I actually visiting other planes? I can't wait to get well and be able to see how my 'dreams' compare.
Perhaps, due to the fact I am sick, I can't go to a higher and more pleasant plane?

Thinks for your input, and patience with the long post's..

Nay. []

P.S. Krome, thank-you! [:I] The library I was in, seemed like it was more for kids..you know, short shelves and stuff.  The tallest shelf was the one with the large book on it. around six and half feet.

[Nay]

thanks Timeless! I will be going to the site very soon...
Dang it, I knew I should have looked closer at that book!
And this tunnel are you meaning...ummmmmm..like if I had really payed attention to that book, it would have pulled me into it?  And gone into a tunnel, then what ever was at the other end would have been where the info was?

Thanks for your responses!! []

Nay. []

[Nay]

I don't mean to sound rude or ungrateful for your input...but, you have read some of my dreams....I am making the best of it, as well as I can.  And have NEVER underestimated their importance..[]

I have had hundreds of dreams daily since I was a child, a small child. (except for a year when I couldn't remember ONE single dream. I know what caused this and have remedy this)  They have came back full force as before, and I am trying to figure it out.

When I had the Library dream it was only after I was awake and writing and thinking about it, that I realized someone wanted me to notice the books I had in my hand.. for what reason...I don't know.  Perhaps had I looked long enough, I would have found the reason.

Same thing with the Zombie's and TV's, I realize someone wanted me to pay attention to the TV's..at least this is how I felt. Who knows what would have happened if I had put my whole consciousness or sub-consciousness into it...

I can't recall if I have posted the dream I had years ago, Just to kind of let cha know where I am coming from...short version of course.

I was a Roman soldier, was in getting paid..got handed a small leather pouch.  I opened it..were weird looking coins and a small vial. I opened the vial..I can still feel and hear how it sounded like it was yesterday.  There was salt in it.. I had no idea what the heck that was all about until I told my hubby about it, and he tells me that some times soldiers were paid in salt..hence "worth your weight in salt"

This "dream" haunted me for months I kept questioning it  I started reading and watching everything I could about Roman times, soldier their currency ect....was it a pastlife? was I a soldier?

One night I had a dream. I found myself in a small village, complete with huts, dirt road, wooden fences.  I was walking with a man.  Very tall, in a robe..I never did see is face, but I didn't need to..I felt nothing but love for him and he for me.  I asked him "was that dream real? was I a soldier"?  he said "yes" He continued to tell me, "it is all right in front of you"  He opened up some sort of portal right there in the middle of this village.  It looked like a door but with a different scene from that which I was in...I then woke up.  
soooo... no I do not underestimate any dream..but I am learning every day, and will never stop..gee at least I hope so. And I will never claim to know more than anyone else..maybe just more experiences under my belt..[]

I hope I haven't offended you in anyway..I am not half as articulate as most people here...I just had to look up articulate..lol...
And need all the input I can get..I just felt you were missing MY point.

Nay. []

[kromeknight]

hello Nay
Could you expand on what you mentioned about the year of no dreams!!
Could it be because of smoking normal cigerets!
thanks in advances []

[Nay]

Krome..LOL....you sneeky little bugger! Ok, I will hold my head up high..lol..and admit NOTHING...[]

Nay. []

[Nay]

Oh..now I see why you miss understood me...lol....When I said higher planes..I didn't mean like a more spiriual level or the fact that I have a need to be more special..But there are different aspects of the astral..right?  Like lower vibrational "planes"..... when you are there, it's dark and gloomy and usually what you encounter are not so positive aspects of it.  Then there are the higher vibrational "planes" where the area is much more pleasant, things are brighter and more clear.  And the aspects of this plane is more positive.. I know I am not explaining myself..grrrrrr[]  I will do some research to help me with explaining this better.. Will post more later.

Nay. []

[Nay]

Well, I am glad I didn't have to do too much research to fix that boo-boo!!  No hard feelings.

So Timeless you have read about some of my experiences...Tell me about yours!  Do you dream alot?  Have you AP'ed?  I can't find anything where you tell about your experiences..You're not keeping all the good secrets to yourself are you?...lol.. I would love to hear about them.

Nay. []

[kromeknight]

Hello Nay  []
I had an interesting dream that turned lucid last night []
It begain as I walked along a coast line, high sand dunes and patchy forest it was all every vivid. I'm a guy so I did have a beautiful girl  with me and there was some intimacy, but in the dream we were in love so hay why not!. Anyway as we walked together we came to a valley with houses. At this point the dream takes on a more tense mood, as ppl are being forced out of the houses and herded away by an organized group of strong beings. We hid within the sandy cliff as these being rode on different animals ( rams, horses) in search of stragglers. We  were discovered after awhile as we tried to go around the housing area, then the chase began. The scenery  changed and often repeated but in different entry exits points, from  the sand dunes to a narrow mall through and even a Chinese restaurant with angery cooks. The common them throughout the chase was we were wanted by someone and people onces seeing us informed the pursuing beings. My awareness came to me when we were cornered in the narrow mall ,second time through.  I felt good and in control as the strange beings rode up to me , I grabb the hornes of the ram, throwing it and the being through the shop window. The other three that pursued us meet simular fates.Then it was back into the Chinese restaurant but this time I reacted to the cooks angery insults as we went through the kitchen, With telekinesis I defended our momentary intrusion and let fly with a few insults in Chinese myself.Sadly this is what woke me up I shouted in the physical and also woke up my wife. It was a good dream over all, romance, action, awareness and I remembered it which is good progress. I smoke cigarettes and I know this has dulled my spiritual awareness and growth in all area's including lucid dreaming for the last 10yrs. I know if I want to really progress smoking has to go, I'm mentioning it so others who would like to progress in lucid dreams and obe/AP think about it before starting to smoke and maybe giving an explanation to others that do smoke why they aren't progressing as they might other wise do,IMO anyway []
Take care Nay []

[Nay]

Hey Krome!

That was a pretty long dream for still being a smoker!!  I couldn't even recall even having a dream..You know how some times when you wake up you at least "feel" like you had a dream..I wouldn't even have that. []  

I wish I had more beach dreams...I love the water!  Well as long as there are no crazy beings chasing me..lol.. What did they look like?

Nay. []

[kromeknight]

Hi Nay []
The beings in the valley around five or so were all the same dark, hooded, ominous. They each carried a staff with a  dull  blue light on top.  They darkened  the valley with there presence. The beings riding in pursuit were troll like with long hair, wild exspressions. Did I mention the girl was very beautiful [] lol.
I know what you mean Nay it's sad that smoking robs us of more than just good health. I guess I can put it(smoking) down to experience, seeing things from different angles. I will be smoke free very soon and will be able to compare all the different stagers of my life. I'm looking forward to more lucid dreams and oobe/AP smoke free. Then maybe we could compare my post...or lack of!!
Thanks for reading Nay []

[kromeknight]

Hello Timeless
I guess my dream is a classic for psychoanalyse like yourself, It had the shadow, the feminine or anima etc. But that dose take the fun out of posting them and also reading others....more jugdmental in that I might think ahh so your battling  your shadow mmmmm...why?
I liked the naive joy of seeing the story unfold, a quick read of a creativity. Alas it is true that posting dreams is just too personal. This is not an contentious reply to your post, but an acknowledgment.

[Terry B]

Beingon the beach has ben recurrent theme for my dream. Also meeting my deceased Great Grandma.

I think phasing style is more Moen like than Monroe. Monroe use the more traditional OBE style approach (although if I'm not mistaken his latter work is a kind of hybrid).

[kromeknight]

Hey Terry
I'd like to have more sea side dreams, experiences in general. I'm glad you have had many []. I have always live within half an hour of the beach so I guess I make up for it a little. But I did have a fantasic AP to a sea side landscape and even entered the ocean and looked around for awhile...(big smile because I love that AP memory).
I wish I had dreams of my nan because I miss her.
take care
krome

[kromeknight]

Hello Timeless
Veryone needs a reality check, even when posting about dreams for fun. I value your post highly as they contain thoughtful and indepth information. Every forum needs that to maintain balance to give all ppl who read them the ablity to learn and grow through thinking for them self, based on what they read here .  You are very much respected and loved Timeless on all forums. This was attained by the words you post. Please don't with hold your insight. If my reply offended you I am sincerly sorry  it wasn't meant to. I just realized after reading your post how the ppl reading  could conclued typical psyhcoanalyst and was amused and concerned by the imformation I'm giving them, it was not directed personaly at you. Maybe it will take awhile for ppl  to understand me on this web site, now I fill...I will in future be less forthright in my wording.
sorry
krome

[Terry B]

I guess I would hijack this thread.[]

Last night was quite busy, I post some of my experience in OBE discussion but I think some are more suited here. So here we go...


I remember one about me on some house with some friend (not really sure who they are). I need to find some kid who just wanders off into the kitchen (need to change his diaper or something[xx(]). Searching the kid and frustrated, I make some kind of joke. I heard someone laugh. Saw a girl smiling at me. Look really pretty. There was a woman about late 30 cooking in the kitchen talking with the girl and calling her Yerin. "Yerin?" I ask the girl. She smile and nod. I thought it was a strange name. She then hold my hand and we talk for a bit (it seems the kid is her brother). She show me an opening on the wall and we see many kid and some grown up playing around on the park. I saw an older guy playing with some kid and I ask her if that is her father. She said yes. I comment that he look fierce, she giggles and say that her father is not fierce, very kind actually. We talk some more but I don't really remember about what.

In another dream I went searching for a flat. I ask my friend do it for me and he got one with a 2 storey room! I don't quite get te name but it is ne_a_a something. while there was another friend that ask for my friend to search for a flat but he is adamant to get Ampton Flat for some reason and we were searching for it driving a car.

Another one, My vision were not very good so I try to se my two hand. They look quite the same for me but then I notice there are some vein bulging from my palm so this is a dream. Vision went clear. There were 4-5 person around me want to beat me up for whatever reason. They don't look that menacing for me. I ponder what to do for while weighing the choice of fighting them or just letting them beat me. After all this was a dream... I decide to ask them some question like who they are, where they live, what year is it, what they do for a living etc. but they seems confused and spout nonsense answer. No longer interested to beat me up they said they want to go back. I follow them. One of them went back to his home, saying he want to sleep. I join the other to house which one of them lives at. We went into the house and eat something maade from rice (the texture is a little bit like shushi rice but it was a big chunk). Taste okay but a little bland.

They are more dream last night but I'm not going to list them as some I don't remember really well and some I don't want to tell.

Thanks for reading this.[]

Late.

To tell the truth, I sucks at dream interpration but if anyone want to comment I would be really happy to read what you think.[]

[Terry B]

Thanks, Timeless.

Wow, you're relly good at this. Hope it's contagious. Regarding making joke, I pretty much like to make joke in rl. Although most of them are not even funny (my batting average are not that good). You're rigt, only the person dreaming can interpret it best. Especially since I've left some detail like there are many girl around my age there an my friends seems to get on with the most pretty one there. And me getting into the kitchen inadvertently searching fr the kid and in the process meet the girl, around my age. My first thought is that the previous girl is prettier (am I that shallow?[:I]) but then I come to realise, "wait a minute, this one is pretty too. Beside, she look really kind, and sweet".  

The flat searching dream is strange in the sense that I sense that the guy adamant about ampton flat is recently out of jail..

You're interpretation really is a good starting point for me. The dream dictionary link is very good. Much information that need to be soaked for a while. When I have the time..[]

Later.

[unknown_raver]

well... i will post my strangest dream ever... all i can remember is that i was in our new kitchen (the kitchen wasn't new then!!! we changed it a few months after the dream) with a knife in my hand... the next thing i can remember that i shoutet 'mother' and then cut my neck... in my dream i was loosing my conciousness and darkness overtook me... then i woke up... i dreamt my own death... into details...

[Nay]

Wow, interesting stuff going on while away!!  That was a great break down of Terry B's dream Timeless.. Helping me in understanding how to interpret my own.

Nay. []

[kromeknight]

Hello Nay
I wondering were you got to, I hope your over the cold that you mentioned awhile back .
Hey Timeless your post are interesting and thought provoking as always.
I'll post my lucid dreams later as I'm still going though the smoke cravings cold turkey, the vale is slowly been lifted and I'm happy to be able to notice the changers so early after stopping.
Glad your back Nay []

[Nay]

Hey Krome!!  Thanks for the welcome back [] The stupid cold turned into bronchitis..YUCK.. and now some whole set of problems with the 'ole stomach as finally gotten to much for me to ignore..[xx(] Next Friday I will be going in for a Upper Endoscopy..DOUBLE YUCK!!
But all will be fine, I am sure. [] Have lost a sh*t load of weight though!..LOL..But enough about me.. I know how the cold turkey thing feels!  Just give yourself a couple more weeks...and you will really notice the difference [] WAY TO GO !!!!
I have tried every nite for a conscious AP..but I am just too tired, keep falling asleep..but the dreams have continued.[^] I really need to figure out why water is so prevalent in them.[?] Think I will go look up that link again that Timeless was so kind to post.  I feel like I am over looking something...but I will nail it down in time.

Nice to be back!

Nay. []

[Nay]

This is interesting.. I had a dream the night before last where I was in a barn and a bear was in there chasing me a bit.  I was up in the rafters getting away.  I wasn't scared really, just thought I should stay out of the way.  So, I go look this up at the site Timeless gave and this is part of what it said.

"Bears in dreams may represent a period of introspection and depression. However, this may be a part of a healing cycle, where the dreamer has retreated into himself in order to regenerate and in order to create something new and valuable in his life"

Hmmmmmmm.. thought that was kinda cool seeing how I have been quite sick and have been wanting to have a more spiritual life all around.

I looked up about the water but it's not that simple.  I will just have to pay attention to future dreams with water.

Just wanted to share!

Nay. []

[Nay]

I wasn't even going to post this dream, but what the hay..there were a couple of interesting things going on.  

Seems I was in some kind of Water World..not under the water, just surrounded by it, as if that wasn't strange enough, everywhere I looked...kids, kids, and more kids.  I didn't take notice of myself at all while in this dream, so I have no idea if I was a child or the adult I am today, I was just "there". I believe I was on some kind of floating devise, I felt like there were some kids with me, but really wasn't paying too much attention to them. (this is how I need to get better, while in dreams..need to look around more, up, down, left, right, I would have been able to tell what I was on, and who I was with)  There was only one thing that I was looking at, and that was this big structure on this Island that we were slowing floating by. A thought, popped into my head...almost like it was put there, it said (paraphrasing) this is a fun place, like Disney World. Ok, maybe it wasn't a thought, per say, but a picture thought if that makes any sense.  I then knew this was a "lure" for all these kids, and they were falling for it.

*Scene Changes*  I am inside the structure.. I was in a long hallway about 7-8 feet wide, and the outside wall was all glass, and all I could see was water.   At first the outside wall was to my left as I walked down the hallway, and to my right pretty much plain wall. I crossed some kind of bridge, 30ft long and only 6ft wide, it did have railings.  Underneath the bridge was a rushing river.  Anyways, I crossed and continued to casually walk down the hallway, noticing a few kids milling about.  Finally I notice this door on my right, I pass it by at first, then do an about face, go and look in the room.  It was full of kids..hundreds..I have no idea what they were doing in there, but it seemed they were on bleechers, and getting ready to sing.  I think, ok..whatever.. and start to walk down the hallway, back towards the bridge....This is where it gets interesting.. I feel this structure shake and hear a rumbling..I go back a few steps to the room, and yep they are starting to sing, but they start to stomp there feet also....I know this is BAD..and my fears are confirmed as the bleechers start to go down. Not only the bleechers start to come down...the whole place starts to come down...I start running for the bridge..funny thing with running in dreams, you usually feel like your stuck in mud or in slow motion.
But not this dream..I was hauling-butt! I took notice of this while  in the dream, which should had made me lucid, but I was intent on getting across that brige before everthing came down around me.  As I am running, there are a handful of kids running and screaming, some in the same direction as me, some not..most not. The bridge comes into my view and CRAP! it's falling apart..I start yelling at the top of my lungs, "Hurry, hurry, faster, faster" to the few kids still on the collasping bridge. Funny thing about yelling in your dreams..cant't do it, usally comes out squeeks. But not in this dream, I was Yelling loud and clear, and once again, I take notice of this while in the dream.  Anyhoo... I'm still hauling-butt, and yelling. Got to the bridge and had to jump over the parts that had broken away and fallen into the rushing river (I remember thinking..whoo hoo look at me jumping and running, like I'm teenager again)  Whewww, I made it across..but to my udder astonishment I
STILL find myself in the rushing river!!! I wasn't scared at all, but I was getting snagged up on some bodies that were under the water...And I felt some of them were adults??  Where did they come from??? have no idea....Then the phone rang and woke me up..

Have I bored you thoroughly?

Well, it's something to read while having your morning coffee..[]

[] Nay.