Closing chakras ?

[Monsolith]

Reading the NEW system from the book Astral Dynamics recently, I was very surprised by RB's sight on reducing chakras activity :

After any type of energetic work involving the primary centers it is, traditionally, thought to be very important to close all energy centers that have been opened (that is, stimulated). This is illogical and ineffectual.

No localized awareness action, and no visualized action either, will be found to cause an energy center vortex or chakra to reduce activity, deactivate, or close. [...] Experience has taught me that no matter how an awareness or visualized action is performed at the site of an energy center, if it has any effect at all it will cause further stimulation. I consider it illogical to think that any reversed action will succeed in shutting down or closing an energy center once it has become active. This is, in principle, a lot like fanning a spark into a flame with a stimulation technique and then trying to make this flame go out by fanning it from a different direction. [...]

Primary energy centers (chakras) are complex nonphysical organs, each with many subtle bioenergetic and pure-energetic functions. They should not be likened to simple mechanical devices that can be opened and closed. [...]

Those who believe they have succeeded at doing this will find that their actions are merely coincidental with their supposed result. The energy centers in question would have been deactivating on their own anyway. In most cases, primary centers begin deactivating the moment relaxation and trance disciplines are broken and normal levels of physical and mental activity are restored. The best way to deactivate energy centers is to leave them alone and stop using them.

On the other hand, after this RB gives "a list of ways to reduce activity in the energy body", which includes "reverse energy-raising actions, dumping energy" (the other ones are about breaking relaxation, doing physical exercise, sleeping, eating, etc).

Well, this seems contradictory. First RB says that reversing the energetic actions won't have any effect on reducing the energetic activity, then the contrary.

Let's take it seriously, considering chakras arent tiny mechanical devices that have two binary states, closed and opened. They can never be totally closed because you always need a little amount of energy flowing in your body to ensure its functions, and never totally opened because we could say there's no limit to how much energy they can draw. Then, the terms "closed" and "opened" only refer to the quantity of energy that is drawn, say a chakra is closed when drawing the normal amount of energy needed for everyday life, and opened when drawing more energy for a specifical exercise.

From this point of view, if you can help a chakra to open by drawing energy to it, I can't see why you couldn't help it to close by withdrawing energy from it, until it reaches a normal activity.

I also have a version of the Treatise On Astral Projection which includes a paragraph on closing the chakras after having worked on them, saying this is very important. As this paragraph doesnt appear anymore in the version you can find on astraldynamics.com, I suppose my version is older. Besides, it's definitely from RB.

I'm pretty much confused now. Could anyone tell me their thoughts on this point and on what RB means ?

Thanks in advance.

[Eol007]

Hi,

This question was raised by someone and then answered by Robert during the recent Wales workshop.

In other words he made it very clear that attempts to practice chakra closing exercises to reduce energy center activity will only result in stimulating them further.

To allow them to get back to their natural base level - simply bring your attention to everyday activities etc. e.g. Walk about, stretch, have a cuppa and so on! I think he said one of the best things to do is to have snack for example.

Hope this helps,



Stephen

[You]

Neat, it does contradict this one book I read that says to close them, but then they also believe in spirit guides... but so does RB I think so bleh. Snacking sounds good though.

[Tayesin]

Hi Monsolith,
Since I haven't read anything by RB except the few things on Astraldynamics, I have no idea what he may have said.  But, I know from my own experiences and that of working with others doing readings of the energy flow from the chakra, that the quote you posted would seem incorrect.

Last year I began teaching people how to effect their own chakra by visualizing the manifestation of the effect sought.  To add to this, I have other people watch the pendulum I use, and it shows how the technique is effecting the chakra's flow.  No tricks or other Input is used to read the flow, just the pendulum moving according to the amount of energy flowing and how it flows indicates many things about the person, what they are working on and feeling.

After about 6 years of doing this it has had the same results for many people.  And I have seen chakra that have been closed by a student's teacher..  I helped them to open their chakras again after they had been closed purposely for three days.   By the way, the people who's chakra had been closed told me how they had been feeling worse and worse as each day had passed until their healing.

So it would seem I disagree with RB on this point.

[beavis]

Dont ever close your chakras!! Mostly good things happen as a result of them being open / having more energy.

[alexd]

Don't you get very tired from having them open for extended periods of time?


Alex

[You]

That's what I've heard. After all, while being in tune with other's emotions, a sexual god, an intuitive seer, an energetic athlete, and an enlightened sage are all good... it'd take some wind out of you. That's why RB says to build up the energy reserves first.

Me, I'm impatient, so I'm going to listen to some tapes or something.

[beavis]

I'd get tired if I tried to use them all the time, but I dont. I just leave them as open as I can and ignore them usually. Trying to close them also makes me tired. If I succeeded I'd be temporarily astrally blind (which would suck). I want to see everything nonphysical that comes to me, not block it with closed chakras.

[sonicpunk32x]

Interesting, a past life reader, told me that in some past lives of mine, I was a very psychic and emphatic person. I was so open to things, that I was seriously wounded and hurt. My soul asked that I not be open and that all my psychic centers be closed. As a result now, in this lifetime, my third eye is completely shut.

I have no concept of intuition, creativity, or imagination for that matter. What a curse, huh?  

[Tayesin]

Interesting, a past life reader, told me that in some past lives of mine, I was a very psychic and emphatic person. I was so open to things, that I was seriously wounded and hurt. My soul asked that I not be open and that all my psychic centers be closed. As a result now, in this lifetime, my third eye is completely shut.

I have no concept of intuition, creativity, or imagination for that matter. What a curse, huh?  

Hi Sonic P, welcome to the Pulse.

IMHO, the reader you mentioned has given you some incorrect information.  None of your chakra will be closed permanently, otherwise you would be dead.

The most effective way to open up to your natural abilities, to start with from your point of view of not being able to do these things, is to change the way you are thinking about it.  If you say "I cannot", then you won't be able to !

The Soul you are will have carried some of your trauma over into this life, that much is a given, yet if you had been severely traumatized then you would have received healing in order to then move onto choosing your next incarnation.

You can open your third eye chakra by imagining the ball/vortex in it's color, then imagine you are opening it up to around a six inch diameter so that it flows the color strongly.  You can do this for each chakra if you choose to.

Good luck Sonic, and don't take the words of readers so much to heart that you believe everything that is said.  Even clear readers have some perception troubles at times, according to their own stage of growth and Intentions.