Masturbation - reloaded

[andonitxo]

Hi there,

Some time ago a folk started a thread about what implications masturbation has in energy terms. That made me be more curious about it, so I took some books on tantra, taoism and retro ejaculation.

So I've thought it could be of interest to post a message on what I've found out, in case someone could find it of interest.

1. First off, a man looses energy when he ejaculates. And it takes two or three days to gather new energy so he can functions fully again.

2. The semen has neurotransmitters, that's why the seminal liquid can affect the brain (both our inner semen or another taken from outside, for example, putting a drop of it below your tongue). In yoga, there's a posture called candle in which you stand inverted (head on floor and feet on top) to help those chemicals to reach the brain.

3. When masturbating a man generates sexual energy. That can be wasted through ejaculation or can be stored through energy work. That's why taoism recommends to masturbate (without ejaculation), but only to generate enough energy to further pile in certain energy stores.

4. A man can have sexual activity without ejaculating. I mean he can have orgasms without loosing a drop of semen.

To do so there are two ways. First, to block his perineum (a tube between the anus and the testicles) during the ejaculation. That provokes the semen to go back due to the blockage.

Second, to block the path contracting the PC muscle. This PC is what you use to cut the flow of urine when peeing and it's located behind the base of the penis. If well worked out it's very easy to contract it during the ejaculation. This technique provokes two effects: the semen doesn't escape out, and it's redirected inwards (urine can get a bit whiter); and the effect of the orgasm "expands" from the penis to a wider area along the abdomen, in a series of orgasmic contractions.

How to work out the PC? Relax, focus on the base of your penis and contract it (as you would do when peeing). Your anus will contract too, so although in the first tries there's no problem doing so, try to isolate the PC muscle so all your muscular tension concentrates in it. This is like jogging, everyday do a series of contractions, some of them regular and continued, others, stronger and holding the contraction. There's no mystery on it, just have confidence and for sure, what you don't feel in the first days will be a controlled thing in the last ones.

When you masturbate or have sex you know there's a limit of no return. So, the goal is to keep yourself in that frontier. In other words, the energy you generate having sex must be redirected from your gonads, upwards the spine to the head, and down again to the point below the navel (read about this circuit in the NEW system). The more you can hold the orgasm the more energy you'll be able to generate and store.

If you'd get to the point of no return just enjoy, no regret, just know before how to deal with it. The orgasm will start to reach and your penis will grow a bit bigger, ready to shoot. An electric like sensation will start to expand from your gonads (especially if you've been delaying it a lot).

Taoism gives us some tools to help us retro ejaculate: have a deep breath and hold it. Tighten your butts (optional). And, the key, contract your pre worked out PC muscle to hold the flow.

You'll note the penis ejaculating, or at least that will be the sensation, but a curious sensation will pop close to the PC. The whole orgasm will be broken down in tinnier ones that expand along your butt, gonads and abdomen.

And even better, you'll already have sexual energy to go on having sex, as a woman does. The seed will not be lost and a new sexual life will appear in your horizon.

To know what to do with the energy or how to transmute it just read something on Taoism (a bit extensive to explain here).

[andonitxo]

Maybe I should explain how we can take advantage of sexual energy. This is all explained in taoism books (those by Mantak Chia), but they lack a tad of clearness. So, the only way to find out new knowledge is just to try the exercises.

As said, sexual energy, and its physical manifestation, semen, must be kept inside our bodies in order to transmute it in spiritual energy (what in yoga terms is named as "ojas"). NEW has a lot to do with it, because it teaches us how to move the energy in the macrocosmic orbit. That energy is taken from "outside" our bodies. We absorb it from our feet and hands, even our chakras, and our inner energy systems transform it in an usable one (just as digestive system does).

But there is an inner source of tremendous power, our own sexual energy. I don't know if it is directly linked with kundalini or if it is another kind of energy, nevertheless, we can cautiously use it to gather higher amounts of power inside of our energy bodies.

So, first off, you should know NEW system and have been practicing with it, so you know what energy is, how it feels and what effects you note when you use it.

The first step is to control your PC muscle. Just work it out for some days till you control it easily. Just practice the following: contract and release, 10 times, 3 series. Rest. Contract, hold 5 seconds, release, 10 times, 3 series. Contract, hold 30 seconds, release 3 times. Practice it 3 times a day (morning, afternoon and night).

The second step is to activate your sexual energy. There are different methods (for sure you don't need any help for that) using your imagination or just touching your penis. The best way is not to touch your penis.

A man can be sexually aroused without having an erection. The problem here is the following one. The sexual energy generated inside your body (the root of your penis) is like fire (you'll note it by your own means). But the one produced in the penis is watery. Try to identify them, they're really different. The first one is very intense, the second less.

So, try to get aroused contracting the PC so the energy starts to generate inside you. That has another advantage: the process slows down itself, so you need more time and the energy is more powerful. For a man is very easy to get hot, even to ejaculate rapidly masturbating, but using your PC is another story. SO HAVE PATIENCE, this is not a thing to enjoy an imaginary sexual scene in order to release. We are going to generate sexual energy, move it in an orbit and store in a center.

So, you'll start to feel a great tension in the PC, a pleasant one. Then, combine the sensation generated with the PC muscle with the sexual drive. Go on contracting the PC and forcing sexual drive.

Your penis may start to erect, never mind! Just forget it and fix your attention in the sensation of your PC muscle.

If you would get to the border line, that where you'll release... STOP! Let the body relax a bit, have big breaths and think about another thing. It's easy to note it coming, and with this technique even easier.

An electricity ball like sensation will start to expand from your PC. It will invade your abdomen and your legs, and even you'll sense very clearly the chakras in your soles. That uses to happen when you surf in the border line. In Taoism that's its name, to surf/ride the wave, a stimulation-releasing process where you don't release and can gather more energy.

SO, TRY NOT TO release, because the protocummings you'll feel will be even more intense and pleasurable.

This needs time. In that state is better not to stimulate your penis, because you'll lose the focus in your PC. It's important; have your attention fixed in your PC area, because that improves its energy.

If you're going to use some porn video, magazine or the like to excite yourself it's OK, but remember always to keep the attention in your PC area... that's a MUST, and you'll discover it soon.

Play with that. I mean, start stimulating physically your PC and stimulate it with your mind fixing the attention. You'll feel a GREAT stimulation that way.

You'll get to a state of total climax. The sexual energy will be expanded along your entire body, as if you'll be in a constant orgasm state. Be careful, you could feel dizzy suddenly. If that happens, just relax and breathe.

If the orgasm would reach and you'll be unable to stop it, try the following techniques:
1.Move physically. Even run across your house, jump, practice somersaults,... whatever.
2.Breathe in profoundly and contract your butts.
3.Put your mind in another place and forget your body.

You can succeed holding the orgasm, but if you release, don't feel bad and just enjoy. You could try even to stop the flow contracting your PC. Correctly done, a retroejaculation would happen and you'll lose no semen and no energy.

So SURF, stay in the borderline, and never lose the control and the consciousness of your body and PC.

Now, when you feel it's the time, have a big breath and move the energy from the PC, down the perineum and up your spine. You'll sense a great jet of energy moving. The lower part of your backbone will fill and you'll have an awesome sensation. Your bowels could start to move. Forget everything of your body. Now think about your breath and the PC.

Go on moving from your PC to the perineum, the base, up the backbone and till your skull. Take it to the top point (sahasrara) and take in down again through your face, tongue, chest, abdomen, to drive it to your subnavel chakra (read NEW to know what we are talking about). Don't forget to put your tongue's tip touching the roof of your mouth.

Try to imbue yourself in a rhythmic process (almost trance-line), moving your energy in that motion. Do several times, calibrate yourself, feel comfortable.

When you feel you're done (the process takes so much time that once you've achieved a correct state to move the energy it would be good to take advantage of the energy gathered and to do several cycles) go on breathing without moving the energy.

Carry on till your head starts to feel clearer. The sensation in your PC will last for many hours; even you'll feel orgasmic for some days.

Precautions:
1.Don't generate energy to let it free. It's important to store it, otherwise it could cause health problems.
2.If you would feel overloaded, don't hesitate and release. That'll release all the energy.
3.Don't let the energy stagnated in some part of your body. You must do the entire orbit.
4.You have to have some experience with NEW before going on with this system.
5.This has nothing to do with sexual satisfaction, even if it, well done, produces a great orgasmic pleasure.
6.Try not to use your penis mainly to be sexually aroused. Focus on your PC.

I don't take any responsibility of the possible damages you could suffer for the improper or imbalance use of this technique. If you would have more doubts read the original books (NEW and Mantak Chia's ones).

This report is based on my own experience, which means that you don't have to follow it step by step and that you should experiment and adapt it to your own personality, always to achieve the same goal: sexual sublimation.

[stiev]

Thank you very much for this, Andonitxo. I've read one of Mantak Chia's books, and I'm currently reading another book on this subject. Actually, I think his book on female sexual energy is better than the one for males, but the overall system seems to be very similar for both men and women.

When you say to activate the PC muscle to generate sexual energy in your above post, do you mean just to "flex" it over and over again? It seems hard for me to get close to the state of climax just by working the PC muscle.

I still have difficulty with the big draw. I can relax and observe the microcosmic orbit, but I can't actually generate it myself. If I get close to orgasm and try to do the big draw, I try to inhale and draw the energy up the spine, but I can never get it much past the PC. It just seems to fade away or go into the stomach. If it does go up the spine, I can't feel it. Are you supposed to IMAGINE the energy travelling up the spine, or should you actually FEEL it?

Also, I would love to be able to INjaculate, but all I feel when I get close to the state of orgasm, activate the PC, stomach muscles, and buttocks, etc, is the lessening of sexual tension as the energy passes away. I have never felt an orgasm going IN, only out. The only way for me to not orgasm out is not to orgasm at all.

Currently, I do the three finger method at the hui yin to stop the seed escaping. I would love to learn how to orgasm inwards and do the big draw properly.

By the way, Andonitxo, can you only learn this sort of stuff in books, or are there Taoist schools that teach it?

Thanks again for your excellent posts.

[Nay]

I'm this ( ) close to shutting this down boys.  I suggest you take this to PM.   I changed my mind.  I am shutting it down.  This is too graphic for this site.. find some other place to express yourself.  I am deleting this last post andi.. I have a copy if you need it.  PM me.

EDIT: Just wanted to let you boys know that you can only smite..ONCE an hour.