Demonic War

[Jonas K strand]

demonic war? hmm... sounds so... unbelevable to me. shouldn´t say to much though. maby i stand there with a little sword and a silly shield fighting demons one day. wouldn´t surprice me since im not the most wise and updated in this forum.

but the thaught hit me that this waridea would be a great way to make people really start developing themselves and maby it is. or maby its just true that a demonwar is coming.

have a nice day boys!

jonas

[MJ-12]

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[Kiflarer]

well i realy need information about this demonic war SOMEONE PLEASE GIMME INFO

[AngelicSaiyan]

That memo must've not crossed my desk.  Sounds like some sort of made up quatrain.
Unless it has to do something with the ongoing threat of terrorism (like i give monkey's nads about anyways)
or something related to some war talked about on most futuristic sci-fi channel stuff
"The french in 2112" -- Michael Garibaldi

Plus, I do not think it is that easy to do some sort of dimensional travel.  Makes me think bogus

(Not an attempt to flame)

[no_leaf_clover]

if there is any sort of war in 2012, it will abruptly end. i've read up on a lot of prophecies and material by zecharia sitchin, and it's my belief that 'planet x'.. nibiru (nibiru literally means 'planet of crossing' in sumerian) is going to be discovered between 2012 and 2013. they've (the annunaki, literally 'those who from heaven to earth came') passed by us plenty of times in the past, with different results. the planet nibiru itself always effects us by its gravitational pull, causing the activation of the ring of fire, once causing the great deluge of the bible, etc. but what the annunaki themselves do can't be foretold.

prophecies tell of a great war leading into the 'day of the lord', which was misinterpreted from the very beginning to be the day someone returned to earth, whether a messiah, jesus, god himself, or whomever. the sumerians and other ancient civilizations also knew of such a day, but to them the day of the lord was the perihelion of the 10th planet, their 12th planet (they counted the sun an moon as such celestial bodies and knew of the other planets), when the planet became plainly visible in the sky. they spoke of nibiru as the lord, and in their epic tales, it was a sign of a great king for that king to have his name associated with the lord.

when the planet passed by every 3600 years (the planet has an orbit similar to a comet. see this page: http://users.lycaeum.org/~martins/nibiru.html ), the annunaki somehow effected intelligent life (us, or our ancestors). the last time nibiru passed by, an ice age was wrapping up and the ice caps were huge and could be easily thrown off balance. they decided to let us die in a great flood caused by the ice caps being pulled off into ocean waters due to nibiru's gravity, because some of the annunaki (considered gods and divine) had had sex with the earthlings, and the earthlings were having sex with some of the gods (some 'gods' were still on earth, maintaining their colonies on this planet that was so alien to them). the leading annunaki frowned on this, and thought of it as immoral. men were said in ancient texts to have become evil and lustful, and that was the cause of the deluge... however, enki, the leader of the first mission to earth, told ziusundra (biblical noah, a follower of enki), that the flood was coming, and to prepare. enki felt bad about letting the all the people of ancient earth die, people that he had helped create. he was also jealous at his brother enlil for seizing command of the earth missions when it was rightfully his own, and willing to betray an oath he had taken to tell a human the news of the upcoming event.

so the last time they passed by, it wasn't such a pleasant thing. but all the passings previous to the great flood were beneficial to the human race, at least while the annunaki themselves had already evolved on their home planet. i could go through and list all the events, each *coincidently* occuring in increments of approximately 3600 years (there is no real way to pinpoint the first day, or even first 100 years, of the neolithic period, for example.), but this is already lengthy and i loaned the book out to a friend.

there are three possibilites as to what the annunaki will do when they come back around and see what we've been up to since last year (last year to them. again, see this page: http://users.lycaeum.org/~martins/nibiru.html ) :

• They will be appalled, and try to destroy us once again or somehow wipe out most of the population.
• They will be displeased with what we have done here, but will respect the fact that we are know our own people, and that they no longer govern us.
• They will offer us help, and aid us technologically and spiritually.

so theres my opinion..

if they decide to finally wipe us out for good (i doubt this. prophecies of the negative possibility tell of a loss of 2/3 of the population of earth, not all men.), then there's not much we can do. we're screwed... but they are much more evolved than us, so hopefully they will be wise in their decision. when the dinosaurs were evolving here, they were evolving there, and we are only hybrids of them, half alien, half primate. so... just hope enki's family has came to power, because he was the more forgiving and understanding one.

[ss_majin_gohan]

I have never heard ANYTHING like what you just said no_leaf_clover..... LOL! I didn't really understand much, I am not saying that you are wrong because we all have our own opinions, but I don't really believe it. I guess I will find out someday. As for the war with the demons thing, I think that would be pretty kool, I should study some of the Bible and pray on it, maybe I can figure more things out that way.......

[no_leaf_clover]

once you see all the evidence and hear the whole story, it makes more sense than you may think. the theory just accounts for so many things, and it wasn't developed by a single man, some berzerk-o nutball. it was developed by whole civilizations, and to them it wasnt theory, it was daily life. the egyptians, the sumerians, the assyrians, the chaldeans.. we just take their history and say 'we'll, this must've been their mythology.' but nowhere do they say that this was just a simple mythology.. and though the greeks took their mythology seriously too, the greeks really just had a more time-warped version of the sumerians' stories.

it's all a matter of how modern times interprets things. and things that seem this far-fetched obviously arent taken up right away, though they make a lot of sense. but, it is seeping through, as sitchin says. []

[ss_majin_gohan]

okeedokee, like I said before, everyone has their own beliefs.

[SpiritPathwalker]

Not including any ancient beliefs, here what I see now:

 Lot of people have let their inner demons take over these days, from the Colombine Shooters to thouse who wrecked into the two towers, and plenty of others who havn't done enough to make world news, but have been very distructive.

 While it'ed be nice to think that anyone who done this just goes away to some sorta hell which they can never return, the similarities between "negs" and ppl who let their own inner demons take over are way to close, perhaps after they die still not done trying to cause harm.

 Assuming that alot of 'em gathering, and could break though to physical existance (not sure how), it might be possible that they'ed start a war against whatever exists (humans, aniamls, heck even buildings and plants, it exists, someone who has their inner demons in control would want to destroy it).

 Not saying a war will or won't happen, or any guesses as to when, but if one would happen, that'ed be my guess as to why.

-Soulwolf Pathwalker

[MJ-12]

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[cainam_nazier]

That depends on what "version" you are talking about.  no_leaf_clover has one version of this.  However there is another that I have seen in dreams that many others have had also.

This being the actual physical manifistation of various demon-kin on the earth.

Those that share the same belief as myself see a war erupting that will begin man vs. man.  This war althought faught man against man will be instigated by evil/demonic forces.  In the confusion of this global war we will begin to see things like the dead walking, ghouls, ghosts, and goblins creeping into our world.  They will of course only be paving the way for larger and stronger demon folk.  Man kind will be forced to unite against this new force or be destroyed.

Also for us who have been having these dreams this is something that will start sooner than people think, or rather sooner than they think the world is going to end.  We see this starting in 3 to 5 years.  We believe that the apex of this battle will be around 2012 but it will start sooner.

[Kiflarer]

its that version your talking about that i wanted thanks for the info oh one thing i am from belgium so i dunno what a ghoul is whats a ghoul?

[cainam_nazier]

A ghoul...It is a misc undead thing, usually a person, that retains some of its previous lifes intelligence.  Instead of just being the walking dead, its a walking and thinking dead.  They are also normally considered the servant of a stronger entity, and oftend looked at as being forced into its role.

[no_leaf_clover]

mj-12, we've been led to believe that life can ONLY exist in an environment nearly identical to earth. we've been told that life MUST exist on water and oxygen, and have heat, etc. this is because we are the only living things that we have proof of, here on earth. and until recently it was believed that life would not survive without sunlight, either directly or indirectly. this idea was shattered on our own planet, when we found all those creatures living off the hot vents in the ocean.

its obvious that life doesnt have to have oxygen, heat, etc., to exist and evolve. i'm sure you've read reports of asral wildlife. i doubt they use ANYTHING physical to survive.

so basically you just have to be more open-minded when it comes to life.

as for nibiru, one can't be sure how they survive, and the sumerians never recorded any history of nibiru, but just of what happened to them and some creational epics. but it is NOT impossible for them to survive on a planet reaching that far into space without heat. one guess is thermal heat. in the sumerian epic of creation, nibiru entered the solar system as a huge flaming ball, and they compared it to the sun, only a lot smaller, but brighter. they said it was a bright white light that shined like the gold of the gods or something similar to that. so thermal heat is a possibility. their atmospheres can also be such that easily hold heat for many thousands of years, and that isn't so far-fetched either. dr sitchin shows evidence that the whole reason the annunaki came here to establish a colony in the first place was that they needed gold for their atmoshpere. if we had gold in our atmosphere, or enough of it, we would be frying like venus, if not hotter. so maybe the people of nibiru have a warm summer season near the sun, and then it gradually cools over the rest of the orbit. or it could be a combination of atmosphere and thermal heat, like we have. like i said, no one really knows, but it is definetely possible.

[Squeek]

Look there aint gonna be any war.  Sheesh.  I could go around spreading that in 2012 A gigantic teddy bear will rise from the center of the earth and kill us all with his laser beams shooting from his huge button eyes.  You wouldnt believe me.  Same way I don't beleive you.

~Squeek

[no_leaf_clover]

it doesn't really matter what you believe now []

[Squeek]

Yep. No war.  Don't go buffing up or nothing like that.  Not gonna happen.  How am I so sure?  Oh I don't know.  Maybe just the whole irreverance of the whole thing.  If this all started the way I think it started, then I know how it spread, and I know how to finish it off.  But I wont go into that today.  No war, AIGHT?  Ain't nothing gonna happen in 2012.  Cool?  Yay.  Hope someone backs me up on this.  It's 2 am and Im half asleep, but the point still stands.

No war.  Stop yelling about it.

~Squeek

[JonProject]

I'm not sure whether or not there will be another war in 2012 but I am pretty sure something significant will happen. I don't know why, I just feel it. Could also be the lateness of the night, hey who knows. Oh one more thing for you guys to ponder over. The whole 2012 apocolyptic idea is actually part of many societal beliefs/religions. Did you know that the Incan calender ends in 2012? Not quite sure why though...

[JonProject]

quote:Originally posted by JonProject

I'm not sure whether or not there will be another war in 2012 but I am pretty sure something significant will happen.  I don't know why, I just feel it.  Could also be the lateness of the night, hey who knows.  Oh one more thing for you guys to ponder over.  The whole 2012 apocolyptic idea is actually part of many societal beliefs/religions.  Did you know that the Incan calender ends in 2012?  Not quite sure why though...

[Terry B]

The Mayan calendar doesn't say anything about a war or the world will end. Basically the calendar ends in 2012 (something to do with mathematics and cycle of time). So what, it has ends before, starts again and will do so again (until the world ends, heh). It has something to do with change but not the end of the world like what some people think. This is just a misuse of their calendar. If you really want to know you can try searching this forum for some older thread.

It would be great if a big nothing happens (or something so subtle happens that it's like nothing ever happen).

Fear can be powerful but not uber powerful.[|)]

[no_leaf_clover]

civilizations on central america are also tied into sitchin's work.. don't start yawning, yet, there's actually some good evidence.

just to give background information, the olmecs were the first civilization on central america. they created huge rock statues of heads. what were peculiar about the statues was that the heads that the statues were based on had distinctly african features. that is to say, the people on the statues had the same facial features as black people. black people were supposed to have been in africa around this time. it was early native americans that were supposed to have been down in central america, not people of african origin. now backing evidence for sitchin..

first of all, there's the amount of time it would've taken people to migrate to north america. it was originally thought the mayas and incas were the first civilizations in central america. it is know known that the olmecs were the first, and were there some at some 1500 bc at the latest, but this time keeps moving back farther as the scientific community reluctantly gives in to logic. the olmecs were originally thought to be no older than 250 bc, then 500 bc, then 1250, and now 1500 bc. sitchin claims they were there in 3000 bc. the people coming from asia on the land bridge would have had to be hauling tail. []

the dates on the olmec calender, which was where the incan and mayan calenders later derived, share important dates with the egyptian calender. they also used hieroglyphics, just as the egyptians and other 'primitive' civilizations (robert bruce himself says in astral dynamics, when on the topic of symbolism, that the ancient hieroglyphs such as egypt's aren't really primitive, and hints that they were more advanced than even our modern scripts, as they incorporated symbolism in their writing). i wouldnt be surprised if in the near future, scholars discover that the olmecs' hieroglyphics are just a slightly different form of the egyptians'.

another piece of evidence is a small toy elephant that was found in the remains of an olmec community. it was made of clay, with the most distinct elephant characteristics. whats weird about this? elephants are native to africa and very southern asia alone. how could the olmecs have known what an elephant looked like unless they had actually seen one themselves? did they pass down specific details as to what it looked like from generation to generation as they came down through america only to make a toy of it? i seriously doubt it, as would anyone else with any sense.

sitchin's conclusion is that the olmecs were from africa. they were carried there by the annunaki ("those who from heaven to earth came" to the sumerians). that's basically it. i haven't got to the fourth book of the earth chronicles, which goes into more detail about the mesoamerican civilizations, but if you want a source, here's a link to sitchin's article on the missing elephant toy:

http://www.sitchin.com/elephant.htm

it also recaps most of what i just said, only in a more organized manner, as sitchin has been a reporter and writer for longer than i've been alive.

so those calenders were based on dates set by the annunaki, who knew exactly when their planet would be back around. thus, the ancients knew of the dates when such things would happen. everything suddenly falls into place and fits perfectly into history when you accept sitchin and his work.

[anjiera]

I'm not sure exactly how this ties in but: one of my friends told me about an African prediction about the end of the world where some evil spirit or another will come from the under world to earth...not sure how true that is but it sure sounds a lot like the christian "end of the world" thing...

another thing interesting about that date is that it is on the uil-iok. that is a day associated with death and the end of the world and all that stuff... I'm not quite sure if there will be a war but i'm open to the possibility.

p.s. i'm too tired to worry about the spelling so please exceuse me.[]

[no_leaf_clover]

i guess when nibiru passes by again it isn't going to be a very positive experience whether they're trying to kill us or not, but things are pointing towards a killing off of masses of people. it's not a good sign that enki has been reported to be guiding and teaching in the astral, along with plato and other famous characters. i hope this doesn't mean enki has died, and if he has, hopefully someone from his line is currently ruling nibiru. he was the one who preserved mankind during the deluge by telling ziusudra to build a ship. enlil was the one that conspired to have us die by not telling us about the oncoming catastrophe. their families continued being rivals on earth up until 'when the gods fled from earth'. if an heir of enki is on the throne, we might not have to worry about much. enlil is of a slightly more merciless line..

[kai]

I'm not sure if this is related to this subject and I'm sorry for barging in but I heard something on another forum a couple of months ago which at the time didn't mean anything to me but now sort of fits in with this. So here goes...

There was this one person who just showed up out of the blue never herd from him before and he started ranting stuff like prepare for the war, a war will soon be coming we must prepare... and things like that.

Some of the people who had been in the forum longer than me started discussing it and it turns out that they have also heard of a war coming and it will be held mainly in the astral realm and that much of it will be man vs man but also with other entities.

I'm not sure if this has helped in anyway to the discussion it just seemed relavent at the time.

Kai

[no_leaf_clover]

is it possible to have a war in the astral? i wouldnt be surprised if those guys were embodiments of spiritual beings.. i dont understand them but ive heard a lot about them, especially appearing to soldiers during wars and stuff.