KI and Jing

[Tom]

Jing is different than the energy you can raise in less than a second by placing your mind where you want it. It is the result of a constant effort of refining your energy. Yes, it will take a lot more time and effort no matter how good you are.

[thrashenskate]

i read some stuff aout this and it said jing is compacted ki and others say its a totally a different energy..wich ones is ture?

[Tom]

It is true that jing is a compacted ki. It is also refined, however, the way honey is made from pollen. I would much rather spread honey on my food than pollen.

[thrashenskate]

do you know how long jing takes to make?

[Tom]

It differs from person to person. The more of a hurry you are in, the less likely it is to occur. All of us must start where we are. The first thing you must be sure of is why you want jing. If your reasons are not consistent with jing itself, then all of your efforts are worth less than nothing.

[thrashenskate]

hmm..whats the average time it takes?

[Tom]

It is like money. The more you have already, the more you can create from your ki and the faster you can do it. It is not unusual to already have some jing. You can make more right away and in seconds. However, this is probably not what you mean. Jing is not about time, you see. It takes a lifetime if it takes a moment.

[thrashenskate]

is their a way to find out how much ki you have?

[Tom]

Not really. It cannot be measured in volts or amps or any other objective standard. Comparisons between people are of limited value. All that you need to do is to trust that as long as your efforts continue your progress will also.

[Squeek]

O.O  Wow..Back N forth between Tom and thrashenskate...

Just for my own enjoyment in posting here, I'd like to re-iterate that Jing is not easy to learn, and to be careful with how you use it.  You just seem like the person who would break a wall -.-

~Squeek

[thrashenskate]

lol break a wall heh i might do that by mistake but thats a different  story. I just want t o make jing so that i can move stuff for fun.  I think that ki balls ,cyrokenesis,etc is fun and interesting ...[]

[Tom]

The astral is above the physical and controls it. The mental controls the astral. The buddhic controls the mental. Going higher adds more control.

[thrashenskate]

Hello. I think i created a jing ball but i am not sure.  It felt liek a ki ball but only heavier.  And also i tried to know a pop-can with it but it didn't work [V].

[ssjoku]

everyone gets it wrong what ki and jing really mean look at thses sites http://www.naturalways.com/treas1.htm or http://www.radiantwonder.com/Jing.htm

[Helmut]

Hi,

Not a very realiable source either :

http://www.naturalways.com/treas1.htm or http://www.radiantwonder.com/Jing.htm

Besides, each school seems to have a slightly different concept of Qi, Jing((sex.) Essence) and Shen(Mind). I can highly recomend Kenneth Cohen: Qigong The art and science of chinise enrgy healing. Best book I know about Qigong and related topics http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345421094/qid=1051951661/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-5721543-8974407
I think moving Jing inside the body is  easier. If you  create jing balls, that you can move outside, you are a master.

Helmut

[thrashenskate]

I have a questoin about the psi wheel. Some say it spions because of you body heat.  Is this true?

[thrashenskate]

hey i had a question about jing... i was able to make a ki ball within a day..even less.. should jing be that hard 2 make?