Reiki Attunement

Eol007 · May 16, 2004, 16:36:12

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Originally posted by samsara

Hi,
I was wondering whether Attunement is worth getting. I have read up about Reiki and the different levels and considered getting level 1 just as a starting basis to work from. Although I do feel a bit skeptical as a lot of these "Teachers" seem to charge quite a bit. As far as I can tell, the attunement seems to be an activation of the chakras to recieve Reiki energy. Is this correct?

Samsara

Hi,

Read Essential Reiki by Dianne Stein before spending any money whatsoever! She caused a storm in the Reiki community a number of years ago by including the attunements and symbols Reikiin this book. Some if not many are stil charging silly money for something that one can self attune to regardless. Otherwise have one-on-one or small group lessons, but do not pay the Earth. Or perhaps join a Reiki share group if you are still interested.

Don't let that stop you - as I have had Reiki in the past and had distant attunements. I was very consious of it's positive effect however so don't knock it totally.

Cheers,

S [

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samsara · May 16, 2004, 16:53:51

Hi EOL 007,
Thanks for the information. I have read a few books recently which covered a lot of ground regarding the history and hand positions for Reiki. None of these seemed to cover the actual attunement processes, though.

Regards

Samsara

Moonburn33 · May 16, 2004, 17:38:29

the original cost to be a master was ten thousand dollars, american.

i say publish everything and let the public sort it out.

samsara · May 17, 2004, 18:14:52

Hi,
I agree. From everything I have read so far Reiki cannot be used for anything negative, only positive, so really it should be available for all to learn. I do feel an unease at the thought of making a profit out of anything that is spiritual, surely the good of all mankind should be the purpose of anything spiritual but there does seem an abundance of money making ventures in these fields.

Samsara

Fat_Turkey · May 17, 2004, 18:31:00

I have my doubts about reiki attunements. Some people claim they can open chakras, then they charge you a wadload of cash, and nothing really happens. People can fool you this easily.

At the same time, you can also attune yourself. Why do we have to pay moneymongering whores for something we can do for ourselves?? To me they are like prostitutes - they charge you for something that is just as easily free. And half the time they don't even do the job properly.

Later
-FT

samsara · May 18, 2004, 20:37:39

Hi,
In all the books I have read so far, I haven't yet come across a step by step guide to self attunement. I did think that following the NEW system from Astral Dynamics might also produce this effect simply because it involves the chakras but i'm not too sure.

Samsara

Nagual · May 19, 2004, 05:23:48

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they are like prostitutes - they charge you for something that is just as easily free.

Given your definition, that would apply to MANY different jobs out there... [|)]

Lighthouse · May 19, 2004, 11:40:44

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Originally posted by Fat_Turkey

I have my doubts about reiki attunements. Some people claim they can open chakras, then they charge you a wadload of cash, and nothing really happens. People can fool you this easily.

Being a Reiki Master, I do not know how one would self attune. I have Diane Steins book and know that she gave her attunements away for free, yet she was initiated by a master. I just don't know how self attunement could be done. I agree, however, that it should be free. I myself have never charged anyone for an attunement. I became a Reiki master because of the enlightenment that accompanies the attunements. I experienced a quantum leap in my consciousness within a week of my first level Reiki attunement so I have to strongly disagree that nothing really happens.

My advice would be to find A reiki master in your area who would be willing to give you an attunement for free... ask around.

Additionally, something I have learned is that unless people pay for something, they don't appreciate it. This is evidenced by the negative attitudes that Reiki is a bunch of nothing. If people were still paying for it, I believe, people would appreciate it. From the people I have attuned, I have noticed that they value it less than I do (I paid for my initial attunement) perhaps because there was no energy exchange and they did get it for free so therefore felt it was worthless.

So I guess really I'm really on the fence about the whole charging thing... Just about any service out there, we could do for ourselves but we choose to pay for it. Psychotherapists get paid a lot of money and this is really a way of helping people get in touch with themselves... a very spiritual process... Churches accept money in the form of donations so why shouldn't someone with a valuable service get paid for that service?

Just my take,
Kerri

samsara · May 19, 2004, 16:19:14

I can understand that some people wouldn't appreciate Reiki if given for free although I think in the long run it would be a good thing. There must be many people who could benefit from just from a level one attunement, even if they do not use further. I think that the world is beginning to get overrun by negative influences, maybe this stems from an internal need to be healed. These then go on to influence others which has to be bad for all of us.

Samsara

Eol007 · May 19, 2004, 16:33:52

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Originally posted by samsara

I can understand that some people wouldn't appreciate Reiki if given for free although I think in the long run it would be a good thing. There must be many people who could benefit from just from a level one attunement, even if they do not use further. I think that the world is beginning to get overrun by negative influences, maybe this stems from an internal need to be healed. These then go on to influence others which has to be bad for all of us.

Samsara

Hi Samsara,

That a good healthy and positve attitude!

- One of the most respected healers in the UK Dennis Fontannaz does one on one training and attunements. I'll PM you with his details if you like. Have you been to one of the Mind Body Spirit festivals - It might be food for inspiration. Think one is coming up in London at the end of the month.

Cheers,

Stephen

samsara · May 19, 2004, 19:06:04

Hi EOL007,
I haven't been to one of these festivals. I keep waiting for one to appear nearby (I'm from the north).

Samsara

Eol007 · May 20, 2004, 06:31:55

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Originally posted by samsara

Hi EOL007,
I haven't been to one of these festivals. I keep waiting for one to appear nearby (I'm from the north).

Samsara

Try,

http://www.mbsfestival.com/ as an example and they are starting to advertise one for Oct 04 to be held at the Manchester G-Mex Centre.

These sort of events are overtly commercial and tend to be very crowded. So if you are more the retreatant type – forget it! But on a positive side: one has an opportunity to get new ideas or even meet likeminded people, see lectures, try bizarre therapies and there is usually a meditation room if it all gets tooo much (ha ha).

If this sounds like New Age Hell on Earth the highly sensitive might be better off going to somewhere like Findhorn in the 1st place [?][

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Cheers,

S [

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samsara · May 20, 2004, 12:42:42

Thanks, I will have a look at that. I wouldn't describe myself as new age, though. [

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Samsara

dreamosis · May 21, 2004, 15:33:38

As an energy healer and student of Reiki I have always noticed that people get more out of a healing (have a bigger healing) when there is an exchange...that can mean they pay me money, make me dinner, give me a healing, a reading or whatever.

From time to time people have come to me in a real funk and had amazing changes without there being an exchange, with me only giving.

I am pursuing Reiki mastership this summer and I am paying for it and I am glad to pay because somebody is taking time out of their life to help me on my path.

I feel confidant that I could self-attune. I read the Diane Stein book and really liked it, but it isn't the information (in my mind) that I am paying for--I am paying for the experience of the information with somebody else.

I recently did a year-long intensive clairvoyant training program and, by the way, which did cost money (but it was pretty cheap). I remember my teacher saying on a few occasions--and I can attest to this--that it only takes about twenty seconds to teach somebody what clairvoyance is, how to see energy. You can intellectually take in the information in almost no time. What takes time is allowing the body to adjust to the changes in your spirit and that's why I think a lot of people don't get much out of Reiki when they do it in weekend workshops. They get it free or pay almost nothing and receive all the information in two days and then they're let loose, they maybe have a couple of memorable experiences and then...*poof* nothing.

What I feel happens is that, okay, they've received a lot of awesome, spiritual information, but then adjustments happen...your relationships are affected by the change in your spirit, you might be less satisfied with your job or you might get more into work. They're slammed with the growth period of becoming a stronger spirit and often so overwhelmed by it that they simply never get back to the information and the clarity that they felt with the workshop. People tend to freak out when you change and individual tend to freak out at themselves when they change...

(Don't mean to be going on...just expressing as it comes to me)

...As for the changes with the chakras--I actually never understood that Reiki changes the chakras especially. There are, however, Reiki symbols that are placed in the crown chakra and hand chakras to help the Reiki be channeled. That, to my understanding, is what an attunement is--clearing out the energy channels and then placing the Reiki symbols.

I wouldn't care one way or the other if the information were free. I wouldn't hoarde the Reiki information or hide it from anybody. In the end it isn't really money that begins the path to becoming a healer or a psychic or an enlightened person...As far as I know, what begins the path is *desire,* wanting to be on that path.

There are a lot of people around me: friends, acquaintances, etc. that know what I do and know that there are supports for being on this miraculous path of energywork and OBEs, etc. But they seem not to be interested. And that's okay. They're working on other things, working with the body.

In a way, I feel like money or whatever you trade for a healing or for a class is just a symbol of your commitment. As somebody who has given a lot of thought to being a teacher, I ask myself this question: why would I share information that is special and sacred to me with somebody who doesn't really care about it, but just wants to know to satisfy their analytical mind or their ego or just to know?

Those are my thoughts...

-Dreamosis

hypnotist · May 21, 2004, 17:03:07

Hi everyone,

A psychic told me that I will become a healer that was in 1969. Each psychic that I saw during my life said the same thing.

The fist psychic told me that before I went into the woods where I had my experienc.

Im 48 years old now but when I was 9 or 10 years old I was in the woods in North Carolina in USA and I stopped in a field and I look up into the blue sky and ask God to make me a healer.

When I said that it came from my heart and all of a sudden I felt the surrge of energy surround me and the back of my neck felt charged and my whole body became very hot and a huge presents of love surrounded me and in me.

After that I felt this energy between my palms and it felt like a force field in between my palms.

I let that go for many years then my wife has a friend in her school that did Reiki. Debbi brought her to our house and she talk to me about Reiki.

Then she did the attunment. After about 30 or 40 seconds into it she stopped and said "I shouldn't be doing this". I said "Why" She said "Because your already there" - "A Healer".

I ask her would it make a difference if she finnish'd the attunment and she she No and she finnish'd it.

So I was attunded by God. I think he saw the good in a childs hart and granted me that request.

I do Reiki Healings in Pennys Chat Room and In mine. Which is good becaus you can hear the people on line as the feel this wonderful energy come to them on the internet.

Especially when they live in all parts of the world.

I hope this helps anyone.

P.S. My attunment was free because they do a bartering system. Im a Certified Hypnotist and Bridget which attuned me gave me a free attunment twice for level 1 and level 2. And I gave her 2 free hypnosis sessions.

Sincerely,
Frank Reiki
Practioner Level II and Certified Hypnotist

Lynfer · May 31, 2004, 15:57:53

Samsara, There are lots of people I've seen who are willing to give reiki attunements for free.If you are in doubt about all this reiki things, take a little time and meditate on it. Or on the other hand,just do it-before the doubt overclouds you. Good luck!

Rob · May 31, 2004, 18:12:01

You know, you can get free reiki attunements over the net, on reiki websites. I did that a little while ago, I mean, it cant hurt....only I missed the time when they did it, was asleep, think I should have been meditating [

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Rob

Lynfer · June 02, 2004, 17:28:05

I've gotten reiki attunements over the net, also. They were very effective. I could feel some change.Inguma's point-It's harmless. Even if it was, it would be hard to harm the body psychically or such with harmful intention. I don't mean to put a shadow over all of this. Good day!

P.S. A reiki attunement can possibly be just as effective when asleep

samsara · June 03, 2004, 16:17:57

Hi everyone,
I recently had a full psychic reading and was told that my chakras were closed and also I had some soul issues, maybe from a past life. I will probably get attuned, I can't see it doing any harm

Samsara

Eol007 · June 03, 2004, 16:50:03

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Originally posted by samsara

Hi everyone,
I recently had a full psychic reading and was told that my chakras were closed and also I had some soul issues, maybe from a past life. I will probably get attuned, I can't see it doing any harm

Samsara

Hi Samsara,

Hope you did not pay good hard earned dosh to be told this sort of trite - I dearly hope that the rest of the content of the reading was of much higher standard! I personally would be very concerned if someone said 'my chakras were closed and also I had some soul issues', as this smacks of irresponsibility! Sorry if this sounds conceited on my part. No matter how gifted psychics & mediums may seem to be - some let the side down and perhaps in ignorance act irresponsibly. If you have any questions about what one should expect in terms of what may constitute a sensible psychic reading you are welcome to drop me a PM.

Good luck with the Attunement by the way.

Kind wishes,

Stephen

samsara · June 04, 2004, 15:21:02

I wasn't too worried about being told negative things as the reader also told me positive things also. I have been looking at reiki attunement as a basis for working on myself and maybe friends and family. I thought that if I did have any problems then reiki would possibly help to clear these.

Samsara

Eol007 · June 04, 2004, 16:04:05

quote:
Originally posted by samsara

I wasn't too worried about being told negative things as the reader also told me positive things also. I have been looking at reiki attunement as a basis for working on myself and maybe friends and family. I thought that if I did have any problems then reiki would possibly help to clear these.

Samsara

Hi,

That is a refreshing attitude to take [

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Yes you could say that od Reiki attunement - although I prefer the idea of attunement as more of coming into place or to tune in with on a many levels with a divine source of love. It is as simple as that! The idea is that it is always there and that you - by receiving attunement come more aligned with or remember that connection of love with all that is! So in a sense yes - the chakras might appear to be activated or to become more sensitive. Although they are in fact always activated at various levels of intensity depending on our daily circumstances etc. With attunement you on a conscious level become aware of the 'connection' with the loving source and open yourself to with healing love. Healing in a way means being aligned, as illness implies the very opposite! Not that we see ourselves as ill normally, but rather a yearning is felt (like a calling) to become more attuned and closer to oneness or the divine etc. Hope that makes sense and is not too 'mumble' etc! So initial attunement aims for us to begin self healing/alignment/oneness and in turn it creates a cascade which motivates us to offer the very same opportunity by sharing healing or connectedness with others and so on. Healing is a truly wonderful gift to aspire to want to work with. Glad you feel a wish to explore it further as it will offer you new vistas of opportunity perhaps previously undreamt off!

It is just that so many people are told 'mumble', and can get freaked out by ideas like the ones already quoted. Or more simply misled! It is just that unless you personally know the reader thinks like chakras and soul issues really should be explained in plain English. So rather than saying your chakras are closed. It would be better for the reader to say you have been feeling that you have say 'your energy is a bit low; or better 'you have been feeling a little under power' and then add aspects of the issues they feel are relevant to this feeling. Note a psychic should not diagnose illness. It can be covered discreetly by careful use of words etc.

Soul issues: big subject. Again a very blind statement: the reader should make every effort to substantiate that type of comment and I hope that in your case he/she did so?

Hope you do not mind my adding of these additional observations.

Stephen [

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Lynfer · June 04, 2004, 16:15:16

I agree with eoloo7. Reiki in my experience deepens your connection to the divine source/love. It may heal you,but that,I don't think,is the main objective of reiki.It is good that you took time to think about it, but don't let people's views get in your,but yours and theirs be the way. Best of luck!

samsara · June 04, 2004, 18:18:32

Hi Lynfer, Eol007. I don't mind any observations, it keeps me thinking [

]) The soul issue is an awkward area. I think the reader picked up more about my current life experiences than past life. I can understand reiki putting you back in touch with the divine love. I do feel that the lost connection with the divine is maybe what can cause a lot of negativity and negative actions. Maybe it is easy to get lost and need to find your way back.

Samsara

samsara · July 06, 2004, 13:30:11

Hi Everyone,
I have now been attuned at level one and I want to do level 2 in the future. I'm glad I did it and certainly felt the benefits during and after the attunement.

Samsara

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