*PLEASE READ THIS * NEED YOUR OPINIONS*

[James S]

Hi again Tia,

Thats a really good point that you brought up in your second last post -

quote:just because im jewish by birth doesnt mean i somehow have to have the same beliefs.

This was something I was thinking of asking, but thought my post was long enough already.

There are those who are born into a Jewish family, just as there are those who are born into a muslim or christian family. This means that they are aware of all the practices and traditions, but doesn't mean that they have chosen to follow that faith.

I'm glad you said this, because it might help some to get off the jewish/religious aspect and look more at the general spiritual belief aspect. Would it help if you were to expand a little on your beliefs, or do you think you've put it clearly enough? as I sort of put it before, knowing what your beliefs actually are goes along way to understanding more.

James

[Hephaestus]

Spirit_Gurl, you are looking for an answer that only a person with your exact own beliefs can answer and yourself. If I believe we go to Nirvana when we die and I believe the Gods from Greek mythology created the universe and the reason for happiness is so we can enter Nirvana and worship these Gods that answer wont sit well with you because its not what you believe.
Your question cannot be answered FOR you, but can only be answered BY you.
People here have Astral Projected, before I Astral Projected myself I thought so called Astral Projectors was a bunch of loonies talking rubbish (pardon my foreign language []). Nothing would have persuaded me otherwise until I found out for myself it was real and then suddenly I became one of the loonies so to speak [].
(No offence to anyone by the way). [][|)]

What im saying is quite clear im sure, the question cannot be answered for you but by you and until you do this thread can possibly go on forever.

[kakkarot]

what will you gain if you live?

~kakkarot

[MJ-12]

fd

[Spirit_Gurl]

sure, but what do you want me to expand on? if you give me a topic it'll be easier for me to answer, and i will be able to beter try to not get off track and write 3 pages. im sure you dont want to read 3 pages. []

[Tom]

Go ahead and write three pages and post it in the downloads section e-books along with how you want responses: e-mail, private message, file uploads, etc. Long posts have their places. You are right that a thread is not the place. Please be complete and detailed.

[Spirit_Gurl]

huh? just tell me what to write about. that way, no one will think i'm begging for attention. [TOM]

[Tom]

That was "fishing for compliments" and specifically on how important you are and how important your happiness is.

Whatever you were trying to use this thread for, that is what you could choose to write about. Emphasize the points which did not seem to be understood and the things that you want answered.

[Spirit_Gurl]

first of all, i was talking about how everyone else matters too. but since i was the one asking the question.


let's see..... what exactly was misunderstood?

[Tom]

It sounds like you have already started to identify things to write about in those three or more pages. It was about how anything and anyone matters. You believe in God so maybe you mean how do things matter to God? What I started by asking is what it means to you that something or someone matters. This is not as simple or obvious as it sounds.

[Nje789]

How your life matters- This is something you have to discover through reflecting on experiences on your own.  Everyone has there own opinions so there's no one answer to this question everyone will agree on.

[Maverickk]

"okay. how does my life matter? when I die and yaddayaddayadda, will my soul care? it's not because i effect others, because how do they mater? it's not an intertwining tapestry... how does anything matter? we're all gonna die anyway. who, in the long run, will care if i die tomorrow? how does it matter if I'm happy right now?" ~Tia

If you believe in God, i think your answer lies with him.  Pray to God in search of your answer.  Remember, you are only 13 and things may seem hazy but as you age and come to understand life it will clear up for you.

[Peterix]

You must sort that out for yourself, but take this into consideration:

• You have an infinite space, with infinite time ,which is just another dimension - that means that universe is static.
  
• There is an universal consciosness (god, if you want) not 'taking place' anywhere in the infinity, but able to perceive it.
• We are separated parts of the consciousness, which is perceiving the infinity as whole(its all knowing).
• It is possible, that the infinity/universe was created by the consciousness or that it is only a complex thought of it.
  

From this point of view nothing has a higher purpose - you are just PERCEIVING a part of the infinity ( YOU ARE ) and you cannot stop it.

Karma- perhaps some system of organization of the universal consciousness.

Enlightenment- greater level of infinity-perceiving

Soul- part of the u.consciousness ( all living things in the universe have a soul)

P.S. Don't think about this as absolute truth.

[bomohwkl]

Spirit_Gurl,

To answer your first question in the first page, I recommend
http://thefreedomofchoice.com/
Download the free e-book.
I hope you can find your answers.

[bomohwkl]

Spirit_Gurl,

I can see that you are an intelligent girl asking intelligent questions. I am impressed by your age. Anyway, your answers to your questions can be found in the link above.
Good luck for your quest and NEVER stop asking intelligent questions.

[Voltarrens]

hello Spirit Gurl,

happiness? Have you found the essence of yourself, what is at the core of yourself, what drives you, what makes you run and do things, what is the reason at the centre of yourself???  When you find it you will know, the door will open and you'll know why and find the happiness that you seek with all it's pain and joy.

How do you get there, only you can find the way by living life and experiencing it to the full extent of yourself without being foolhardy and by being curious with a need to want to know.

Why are you concerned about what others will think, if they will remember?  Those who will remember will be those who have experience of yourself, who you were, what you did when you have left.

Will it matter?  Who knows in the scheme of things, we are after all in reality no-bodies and no one of importance when it comes down to it all in the vastness, yet at the same time we are a link between one and another and help keep the vast web together.

The road is either long or short, and only you can find it[]

Love and Light
Voltarrens

[Spirit_Gurl]

(rolls eyes) BIG help. the dumb book won't download... [B)]

[kromeknight]

Hello Tia
I would like to say thank you to all the people who have replyed to your post, interesting and helpful [].
Tia I asked myself simular questions along time ago ,like whats the point of life and who really cares if I die. The answers I came up with might not help you or anyone that reads my post as they were my own answers for my own life. Tia close your eyes, what is there in the darkness....your thoughts, a connection to your physical body. Ask yourself why open my  eyes again ..ever. Is this like death until I come back as someone else?
What matters is you want to open your eyes to experience this life, your body demands attention your mind questions and seachers for answers  your spirit is  compaled to interact now not later! or keep them closed if you can and deny everything that matters to you. I hope this is helpful, it has helped me to understand some undeniable truths to why I am.You did ask for our opinions but your opinion matters mostly to you, we can only take an interest in your journey, and I think by all the replys you should be grateful of this fact.
Good luck in finding the answers.[]
Paul

[bomohwkl]

Follow the link
http://thefreedomofchoice.com/e-book.pdf

[Spirit_Gurl]

okay. I read it. I read it two times. I do not agree with hardly anything he is saying. he makes our souls and he makes god seem like emotionless personality-less mathematical equations, and he makes his so called purpose sound like he is right above all else, and i dont believe what he is saying. i know someone is gonna start yelling at me, so just stop wasting your time. ive given you enuff trouble. if your next post is to lecture me orpatronize me or queston me, please just dont bother.

[James S]

Nope, not going to yell, lecture or patronize you. For the most part I agree with you. I haven't read through all of it, I couldn't bring myself to. He annoyed me too much! You did well to read through it twice!!

By virtue of my career, education & training I tend to be very analytical, but some things - LIVING things, cannot be looked at this way. I believe our soul, and the one creator of all to be living sentient things, with thoughts, feelings, the lot.

I think I will take it as my freedom of choice to take on board select little bits of what the good doctor is preaching, and throw the rest away.

James.

[goingslow]

why is everyone coddling spirit girl so much.  I understand shes young and you're all trying to help but at that age id be more insulted at the patronizing.  Youre so smart for your age I agree .. etc.. etc..

What is amazing to me is everyone keeps answering her even though she doesnt appreciate one single reply and even insults for not giving the right one.

I happened to like the freedom of choice book.  But i think its hard to get into if you have strong beliefs already on these things.

But im so proud of you spirit gurl for reading it youre doing good.. etc..

[MJ-12]

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[bomohwkl]

Spirit_Gurl  said , "  he makes our souls and he makes god seem like emotionless personality-less mathematical equations"
Oh dear, Spirit_Gurl has missed the 'diamond' of the book. An obvious statement that Spirit_Gurl doesn't even try to understand what is written. I wonder what are the hidden motives of Spirit_Gurl. Anyway, you have zillion of years to understand. Truth will be truth and withstand ages criticism. Lies and deceit only provides constrast for the truth for those who has evolved enough. But for the unintelligent, truth, lies and deceit are just the same. []

[Adrian]

Spirit Gurl:

Keep asking the questions, and make your own mind up based upon the answers you receive - but always maintain an open mind and be willing to shift your position based upon the latest information.

The Freedom of Choice book is excellent as people have already said. I also strongly recommend the book I have just uploaded to the file library:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/file_library.asp?showmethefile=34&thatcat=14&thiscat=E%2DBooks

Which is a truly exceptional work, and almost completely in accord with the ancient age old truths, realities and wisdom as taught by the great Masters over the Millenia including Master Jesus (Joshua), notwithstanding the fact that in the case of Jesus his message was distorted by the bible over the centuries so as to make it largely unrecognisable.

Regarding "God" - God is beyond petty human emotions and ego. God is not a person, but rather is "everything"  - "The All".  God is the essence of the most powerful force in the Universe - Unconditional Love. But Unconditional Love is not the sentimental love of humans, but a much more powerful, higher vibration encompassing everything that "is", and which keeps the entire Universe together and unfolding naturally. By Universe I mean in all spheres - physical, Astral and Mental realms.

Keep asking the questions and do not be discouraged by the answers you get - the truth is out there, and you on on the path to find it.

With best regards,

Adrian.