Religion and Peace

[Fresco]

Yeah, as pertaining to the thread title, it doesnt really matter what the Iraq wars were fought over.  My point was virtually no major 20th century wars were fought over religion

[Rudolph]

Yeah, as pertaining to the thread title, it doesnt really matter what the Iraq wars were fought over.  My point was virtually no major 20th century wars were fought over religion

Right.

Or the 19th century, or the 18th century, or the 17th century...

Most wars were simple power struggles and border disputes, colonial expansion, etc.

The only religious wars of any notable size were the Muslim wars of conquest and expansion that persisted for hundreds of years until the European powers got organized and staged a counter-attack, the Crusades -- that's when the violent Muslim expansion was halted dead in its tracks.

(There is a big giant lie that is often repeated how Muslim territory growth was peaceful cultural expansion - but this is just so much huge non-historical nonsense it is laughable that it even got any traction.)

[Fresco]

Right.

Or the 19th century, or the 18th century, or the 17th century...

Yup, most religious wars were fought in middle-ages, and even then there werent that many of them.  Most wars even back then were fought over land or natural resources (like water, food, gold, silver....etc).

The only religious wars of any notable size were the Muslim wars of conquest and expansion that persisted for hundreds of years until the European powers got organized and staged a counter-attack, the Crusades -- that's when the violent Muslim expansion was halted dead in its tracks.

(There is a big giant lie that is often repeated how Muslim territory growth was peaceful cultural expansion - but this is just so much huge non-historical nonsense it is laughable that it even got any traction.)

Agreed again.  Muslims conquered most of Spain, even setting up mosques everywhere.  France was starting to feel threatened and they decided the muslims had to be driven out. Thats what started the Crusades