If magic is so powerful, where is my love!?

[skymageinfinity]

Since I am such a compellingly sexy scoprio... Its better if they dont run... I like my women tied up

If it wasnt for my 'scorpion' like nature, I wouldnt have called you a twat and gave you the giggles... so please leave me be twat

Azaaithoth: I LOVE YOU!

[Cruel Tendencies]

The only thing that really helps being able to see energy is continued energy-body development, maybe with some extra work on the brow chakra.  In my opinion, though, what usually keeps a person from being able to efficiently sense someone else's energy and what it's doing is when their own energy is too "loud".  What I mean by that is mosttimes when we want something from someone, our own desires cloud our mental space.  We feel our own energy in the form of what we want the other person to be feeling, and get the two confused.  Getting to know how your own energy feels - knowing what it feels like to feel *normal* for you - is probably a good idea.  Go out and notice how you feel when someone new looks at you, or when you form a connection with someone.  Experiment with shielding techniques, and severing connections so that you know when you're sensing someone else's energy and when you're sensing your own desires.

Now obviously I don't know your specific situation or what it is you do when you're interacting with a woman, so I'm just trying to address what I feel are common barriers to forming good relationships.  If you're looking for something lasting and meaningful, and you say you can hear when God is speaking to you, then you'll probably want to begin making the changes that you're being told to make.  Your "demons" feed on fear, and so they tell you not to change, because if you changed and no longer felt fear (no matter how slight it may seem) they'd be out of a free meal.

But really, the best advice is the simplest.  Just be confident, and patient, and don't expect too much out of every woman you meet.  The energetic processes will take care of themselves if you do these simple things.


Paul

[skymageinfinity]

Youd be suprised how patient I am. In fact I suprise myself even.

I sometimes sit down somewhere and wait for hours until the energy is 'right'. And I know it was right, when later along the path I bump into someone, or I see something happen that is so perfectly timed I sometimes think I am pure energy myself.

As for the confidence, Im sure I can work on that more. Usually, its not the confidence, but the patience required for the timing. Once I know when to act, whatever the reason for, I get up and go, regardless of my confidence. If anything, I will probably have to work to be not so over confident.

Like I said before, I just need to get my balances sorted out so they dont interfere with each other negatively.

[Tab]

Ugh
You'll never find anything worth seeing until you stop looking.

[Ceriel N]

quote:Azaaithoth: I LOVE YOU!

I thought that only worked with 'Negs'...

[]

[doubtsevenhere17]

i sympathize with you, skymageinfinity.  i experience the same problems.  people always want to blame the person who's having the problem, always saying, "you're trying too hard" or "you're not trying hard enough" or "maybe you're not doing this right" or "maybe you're not doing that right", etc!  and for the longest time i've thought, well maybe they're right, and i've tried all the various advices with zero results, and i keep pondering over what it could be that i did wrong this time.  i've most especially done the "not looking thing", and i really wasn't looking; i didn't mind being alone for a long time, but neither was i about to reject any possible loves that came up.  but nothing ever came up.  i got involved in classes and stuff to meet people with "similar interests" and nothing ever happened.  and so i've spent a lot of time pondering over what it is i'm always doing wrong, what the hell is wrong with me, why the hell am i such a f*ck up, etc., etc.  you know what?  f*ck that sh*t!  there's nothing the hell wrong with me, and i see people with worse personalities, people oozing with desperation, people with zero self-confidence who still find someone.  so i don't think it's always "the seeker's" fault.  i think there are other factors.  i think that the general population can just sense when certain people are "different".  that think differently, that have different values.  i live in a town full of very narrow-minded people, very wrapped up in petty material concerns.  i know i'm different, and maybe they know it too, because i simply cannot "connect" with anyone around here, and most anywhere else either.  like my bestfriend has stated, it's like "we're on a totally different plane than everyone else."  i'm tired of thinking there's "something wrong with me/something wrong i'm doing/something i'm "radiating."  there has to be someone out there who likes me for me, who appreciates me despite my faults and whatever.  there are certain types of people that are very rare, very hard-to-find like a tiny needle in an eternal haystack.  i know i'm just going to have to wait longer than most people to find the right person in a huge population of... er, very UNlike-minded people.  i know it's frustrating as hell, but i have confidence that i will meet a love eventually, and i'm confident you will, too.

[skymageinfinity]

That makes two of us now doubtsevenhere17!

No one understands why I get ticked off when they say those things "its your fault" etc. Instead they have a go at me by saying "change yourself, change your style, change your apporach, change this, do that do this go there blablblabla"... There is evidence of that in this very topic.

No one ever goes up to you and says... "you are too good for people"... or "the reason you arent with anyone is because you are special and you have to go through a period to gain something much better than everyone else"... its always "you suck" "Get over it" all negative stuff.

I know I am different. I dont exactly 'fit' in this place. Even though I have been here my whole life, my soul is different to everyone elses around here. I come from a different background, culture and religion... my soul although adapted here, retains its own signature mark... Not everyone can see it, but when someone does, like you said, its very rare.

I think people like you and me suffer more because of the fact we are human. If you believe in previous lives etc, we must have done something bad or good or significant enough to affect us this very day. I feel sometimes that I deserve to suffer for being who I am, because life is suffering and things like love and friendship are only their to ease our passage in life. However, our souls are beyond the superficial 'bliss' of such things in life.

I at times only complain about not having love and whatever because I am indulging in my senses and my emotions. I at times dont want to admit to myself that really, all this stuff is not important in the big picture of things. I am tempted by worldly things and this consequently keeps us binded to this physical world. Afterall I am human and my soul is trapped in it, struggling to set free. It is my human nature to do what all humans do- place too much self importance on ourselves. How small minded to be so selfish and selfcentred into thinking that we need this and we need that. What gives us the right as inferior humans to decide what it is that we should and should not have. It is not up to us! We did not create our selves.

What is important is that I walk the path I am meant to walk the way it was planned out for me to walk it. There was a deeper meaning to my topic that nearly everyone overlooked. I wasnt essentially concerned with human love. I was asking about my love for the path I am to chose. It has more to do with destiny or fate more than human attachment. My spirit- much like others here, reaches out for that love. Not love of life, but love of something that I cant explain with words. Freedom maybe? Freedom of being human on this forsaken planet? Freedom of thought? Freedom of emotions? Death?

Who knows. Bottom line for me is, I have been severed from what I once knew and was part of. I am trying to find my way back, but I no longer see the signs of love that I once did before. I no longer have a human companian or lover to show me the way...

I am alone and alone I must light up my own path since alone I will leave this existance.

As for who or what darkened the path in the first place... I dont think it really matters. What matters is that I do my duty and follow my heart so that I can release my spirit to where it needs to be released.

What my duty is, what my heart wants and where my spirit needs to go or needs to do... I dont know.

What I know regarding this matter is that I need a guide with greater wisdom than myself.

The spirit guide that my human nature and environment has detached me from, I must seek.

[Adept_of_Light]

Dear skymageinfinity,

quote:If magic is so powerful where is my love?

Well, how have you tried to use magic to find your love? "magic" isn't powerful necessarily. I believe the malformation of your question highlights a slight misunderstanding.

Magic is like an engine. Engines only work when they are given enough gas and when the vehicle operator knows how to turn them on.  Just by itself, an engine will not function at all. Likewise, magic (a set of universal rules that can yield precise results) by itself (without an operator, and without enough power) will simply not work.

My point is, if you have tried to use magic to influence your love life and it has not worked, then you either did not have enough power in your operation (you didn't give the engine enough gas), or the operator (you) was not knowledgeable enough to get the magic to work (you couldn't find the hole or didn't know you needed a key to turn on the engine, or didn't understand that putting the key in the hole was still not enough).

Magic, like turning on a car, is an exact science. When all the right variables are in place and things are executed precisely as they should be, you will get results every single time without failure!

quote:I have been asking this question ever since I have began to understand and follow the magic path. No matter how many answers it provides for what I ask it to provide me with, it NEVER provides me an answer about who I am to be with.

You ask to know? Why aren't you bold enough to ask to find out instead? Does that thought scare you or intimidate you in the least? If yes, then you are not ready to know yet.

*** BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR! ***

This golden rule in magic can never be stressed enough, especially for beginners. Please people, do not use magic to try to attain things or people, because unless you really know what you are doing, if you can even get any part of it to work but you didn't think things through to a very fine degree of perfection, then there is a chance things will not work in your favor. Those who play with fire get burned. Those who play/dabble with magic will have magic play/dabble with their lives.

My friend according to your profile you are 21, there is plenty of time to find the right person in your life. At 21, believe it or not even the most intelligent of persons have not acquired enough life experience to be ready for the relationship of their lives. There are of course exceptions, but exceptions are never the majority. I urge you to keep trying by "normal" means for now to find the right woman.

Let me ask you this, can you tell me with extreme and very detailed accuracy EXACTLY the woman that is to be your soul mate? If you aren't 100% sure, if there are any doubts what so ever of who this woman will look like physically, who she would be emotionally, and mentally, then I can guarantee you that it is not 100% safe for you to be using magic to influence your love life! NEVER FORGET THIS!

quote:If all of us magic folks are made to be lonely, then where is my lonely magic folk?

Your misconstrued questions indicate to me you still lack much right understanding. This is not to sound condescending or insulting or anything of the sort. I was once where you were asking similar questions that highlighted my ignorance. I praise your courage to be bold enough to ask and this is why I am taking the time to offer you what I know from personal experience in magic.

Your statement about the perceived notion that magic folk are made to be lonely is nothing but a myth. If that is how you understand your reality as a magician, then your reality as a magician will be bound by your limited understanding. If you can not imagine yourself as a magician with a life partner that will keep you company, then it will never become a reality for you. Man can never create that which he can not first imagine!

Further, and at a deeper level. If you are merely "lonely", then how can you justify to yourself that finding a magical partner is the only solution to this need of yours? People who are lonely can be cured by surrounding themselves with other people they like. This is called friendship. Other people can find sufficient company by getting a pet. My point is, loneliness is NOT the right justification to be looking for a love partner. If you need love in your life, then that is one of many other little pieces that could justify looking for a magical partner in your life.

In order to get to a deep enough level of understanding about what we should do or not do and how, we must constantly engage in uninterrupted inner dialogue - contemplation. Try to find your inner voice, and when you do hear it, question its authority and choices. If you do this, you will find little need to ask any more questions of the nature which you've asked here because all answers will come from within and from a source that will always look out for your best interest.

quote:NO matter what I do or what I try, I might be able to make the world spin the other way... but I can not create love!!!

Bingo! Love can not be synthesized. To find love, one must first be true to oneself, and then true to our partners and the same from their perspective. If it is otherwise, true love can not manifest.

quote:My dreams occasionaly show me who she is... but even if I did understand who she really was... I could not dream forever!!!

Hang on to your dreams, some days that's all we have. You will not dream forever, each day you will awaken with the ability to write a new chapter in your life. Each day you may chose to awaken with hope and be bold enough take action that will advance your needs in life and do something to manifest those dreams into a reality you can experience. Or alternatively, you may waste that day grumbling that nothing is going right and with negative thoughts in general.

Another golden rule in magic is that: "Where thought goes, energy follows."  If your mind is filled with poor thoughts, then a poor reality you will experience. If your mind is filled with negativity, then negativity you will experience. Cleanse your mind of limitation, and your horizons will expand. Believe you can, and you will!

Never lose hope my friend, to do so is to kill all your dreams.
Never lose your dreams my friend, to do so is to kill your potential reality.

Take good care,
Adept of Light

[Adept_of_Light]

Hello again

quote:
No one understands why I get ticked off when they say those things "its your fault" etc.

"Humanity is fortunate my friend, mankind only suffers by his own hand!"

When you dig deep enough, the problems in your life are always to some degree related to something that you could have done differently and better to avoid a negative situation in the first place. Analyze all your sufferings until you find out where you went wrong - only then will you learn enough to not suffer for the same reasons again.

quote:
No one ever goes up to you and says... "you are too good for people"

You are too good for the people that don't deserve you
You are not good enough for the people you don't deserve :/
You are just right for the right person. =)

quote:
... or "the reason you arent with anyone is because you are special and you have to go through a period to gain something much better than everyone else"

quote:

So long as you choose to compare yourself with others or what they have, you will endure periods of superiority and other periods of unworthiness. Both of which are time well wasted in suffering and ignorance. All that matters is you and you continue improving yourself, regardless if you are at the bottom of the pile, middle or at the top.

quote:
... its always "you suck" "Get over it" all negative stuff.

quote:

"In the presence of great men, turn your gaze toward them and learn. In the presence of bad men, turn your gaze inwards and learn about yourself".
-Lao Tzu, Tao Teh Ching (paraphrased)

quote:
I know I am different. I dont exactly 'fit' in this place. Even though I have been here my whole life, my soul is different to everyone elses around here. I come from a different background, culture and religion... my soul although adapted here, retains its own signature mark... Not everyone can see it, but when someone does, like you said, its very rare.

Congratulations, you have just come to the realization you are human. Welcome to the club my friend

quote:
I think people like you and me suffer more because of the fact we are human.

We are all human. We all suffer. Show me a human who does not suffer, and I will tell you either he is not human, or he is lying to himself and others. Maya is suffering. Enlightenment is to exit Maya. Strive for the highest goal and you will end suffering... or so the theory goes. Here I can not speak from personal experience (yet).

quote:
If you believe in previous lives etc, we must have done something bad or good or significant enough to affect us this very day. I feel sometimes that I deserve to suffer for being who I am, because life is suffering and things like love and friendship are only their to ease our passage in life. However, our souls are beyond the superficial 'bliss' of such things in life.

Not bad, not bad

quote:
I at times only complain about not having love and whatever because I am indulging in my senses and my emotions. I at times dont want to admit to myself that really, all this stuff is not important in the big picture of things. I am tempted by worldly things and this consequently keeps us binded to this physical world. Afterall I am human and my soul is trapped in it, struggling to set free. It is my human nature to do what all humans do- place too much self importance on ourselves. How small minded to be so selfish and selfcentred into thinking that we need this and we need that. What gives us the right as inferior humans to decide what it is that we should and should not have. It is not up to us! We did not create our selves.

Now I am actually applauding! This is what I meant earlier about inner dialogue and contemplation. Keep going my friend, there is much potential for you to realize! Just don't forget to smile now and then... it tends to ease the suffering

quote:
What is important is that I walk the path I am meant to walk the way it was planned out for me to walk it. There was a deeper meaning to my topic that nearly everyone overlooked. I wasnt essentially concerned with human love. I was asking about my love for the path I am to chose. It has more to do with destiny or fate more than human attachment. My spirit- much like others here, reaches out for that love. Not love of life, but love of something that I cant explain with words. Freedom maybe? Freedom of being human on this forsaken planet? Freedom of thought? Freedom of emotions? Death?

Are you trying to make me stand up with applause? *grin*. Well said, except for the last word. Death is not freedom. Death of the spirit is impossible for we are eternal. Death of the body does not bring freedom of the spirit for it will re-incarnate and keep suffering. So the answer is not in Death, but in Life. Each life we are presented with opportunities to rise to the pinnacle of possibility until we are so high we penentrate the perimeter of suffering and englobe Entirity and eternal bliss and nirvana is experienced.

quote:
Who knows.

The ones who have done it know. These are the ascended Masters of the various religeons and many others that chose to have no disciples.

quote:
Bottom line for me is, I have been severed from what I once knew and was part of. I am trying to find my way back, but I no longer see the signs of love that I once did before. I no longer have a human companian or lover to show me the way...

One of the greatest human misconceptions is that, that true and perfect love we all subconsciously wish for can be found in another imperfect human. Simple logic will make it obvious this line of thinking is flawed.

Our other half is never another human being, but instead our higher selves. However, until we are ready to merge with our higher selves, having a loving relationship with another human is a very base and low grade replacement that can yield a certain amount of satisfaction and provide enough suffering for us to eventually grow enough to realize human love is possession and binding and not that secret unsuffering freedom we actually desire so deeply.

I am alone and alone I must light up my own path since alone I will leave this existance.

Even in your darkest hour you will never be alone.

What my duty is, what my heart wants and where my spirit needs to go or needs to do... I dont know.

Perhaps not, but your higher self does

What I know regarding this matter is that I need a guide with greater wisdom than myself.

Refer to my previous statement.

The spirit guide that my human nature and environment has detached me from, I must seek.

Seek with everything you have and you shall find indeed.

I feel I need to thank you for this lovely post of yours. It has put a smile on my face

Adept of Light

[skymageinfinity]

Thanks for your support and post and sorry its taken me forever to reply. Ive been 'away' on a journey

There is so much more to it than we speak and because of the limitations of our language, it is hard for us to share the experiences.

As we get deeper and deeper into the realms we realise that the 'ordinary' world is harder to return to and as days go by it also becomes harder to share your wisdom and let other experience your experiences. The world today filled with machines and technology has its role in the alteration on the transferal of spiritual knowledge.

If we have lost or failed in passing the knowledge of 2000+ years ago, one can only hope that we will be able to maintain it 2000 years from now.

The more our world becomes smaller and the more the earths nature becomes destroyed, the more the demand is for us humans to turn inwards to find the peace.

It is sad that we are sinners in this world of beauty.

[kakkarot]

you're pretty mean sometimes sky. i'm surprised tisha is still tyring to help you out after you attacked her like that.

i especially find it strange how you said: "And TISHA would be one of those women that would try their witchcraft to get me, but wouldnt have a chance because Id smell their magic a mile away. Havent you ever heard of filtration?" and yet are using magic yourself to try and find love. are you dense? or just joking?

if you ask for help, accept it when it is given. don't criticize those who are genuinely giving you help.

and no, you're not the only person who feels love for someone they've never met. i do as well. but you know what? i'm still single too! and whoever said that thing about yoga class had the best advice of all: if you are just going to meet people you will push them away. do things you are interested in and you will eventually find someone else interested in the same things.

and finally: love is a strange thing. don't try to understand it. the best mystics, philosophers, scientists, spiritualists, etc of our age and of ages gone have never been able to understand, let alone "command", love. why think that you or i can?

~kakkarot

ps, who do you think would cherish a great feast more: a king who is used to such things, or a poor man who wouldn't dare to believe that he could ever taste of such?

[skymageinfinity]

get lost kakkarot

If you havent already noticed skymageinfinity and Adept_of_Light have gone on talking about the real matter of the topic. The matter of 'human' love was not my real concern in the beginning if you even bothered to read all the posts and realise it for yourself!

Just because I ask for help, it does not mean I should accept it from anyone and everyone! And I know when someone is genuinely giving me help or is just there to reply to the post. And you kakkarot are just there to reply to your post, otherwise you wouldnt be such a critic in your post saying that im doing this wrong and this wrong. Instead youd fill your post with some actual advise, which really you havent done! All you have done is just blurt out rubbish. Ive posted more constructive than criticising posts in this thread. You have posted ONE and its negative! Look at it that way and we realise who the non genuine non helper is.

What does flirtation have to do with what I said to tisha??
Just because I asked how to use magic for love, that does not mean nor imply that I am actually using it.

Man, I thought I had finished this pointless conversation with Azaithoth. Are you one of his messengers?

You either have something worthy of saying or you dont say it. Nothing you said was related to the most recent posts in this topic. So in otherwords, you have done a good job at derailing the flow of this thread. Well done! And you expect me to listen to your 'love' advise?!

Why should I listen to anyone about love, when they themselves dont show that love?!

And by the way the King would cherish it more. From the way you described the poor man, it doesnt look like he would even have his eyes open to see the feast!

kakkarot, I hope you are a strong person and can handle a bit of heat, otherwise I apologise for my 'mean' way of saying things.

[kakkarot]

actually, it DOES imply that you are using it.

and i didn't know you were flirting with tisha, i apologize.

also i apologize for not reading the whole last four posts nor the times they were posted, eventhough i took the time to read the rest of the thread.

and no i don't know Azaithoth except by having seen his name a few times in these forums.

~kakkarot

[skymageinfinity]

Well I am not using it. I am not casting spells or doing rituals to attract love.

I wanted to find out how the interaction between love and magic exists so that I could tweak/fix it with my mental powers.

If you call that tweaking, magic, then I guess yes, I am using magic. But I dont call that magic.

But really, I dont need to use magic to attract someone. I trust in the universe to guide me to the right person at the right time. However I just have trouble in taking the first step in acheiving what the universe wants me to do sometimes.

I might know that I should be doing something, but I am 'frozen' and cant. Maybe it is the negative forces playing against my will. Who knows. It is like something is holding me back and that force that is holding me back is what I needed to understand in the beginning. This not just applies to human love but the way I do things everyday (hence the bigger picture Adept and I have been discussing).

I dont believe it is a force that is a part of me. I feel it is a foreign force similar to a curse that I havent found a cure for. Most probably, I have put it on myself- inviting some demon to reside in me due to problems in the past. But to solve this problem, id have to talk about the situation which is personal. And I dont even know if it is that or not. It could be something else, it could be nothing.

My experiences in life has shown me that the greater things that have happened are those that were not planned and agreed on. They were things that just happened or created by the almighty universe. Putting aside everything else, I think having faith in that is the most important thing.

My biggest problem is maintaining faith in that which I once strongly believed in before. Like I have mentioned, it feels like my connection to the universe has been severed and I somehow have to get it back.

I wrote a poem about this called the "Fruitless Cycle". Maybe it would help people understand what I am trying to say. I might post it in here sometime- if I can find it.

[Nahaz]

Lots of good advice. Took me a while to figure all this out myself. Once i empowered myself and stopped "wanting", it opened up the floodgates. Truly, magic is not wanting or needing anything. Realise that you have it all right now and this will become your experience.

This system is absolutely fair. One of our prime reasons for being here is to imagine up the best experience we can. When you are fully self-empowered/realised, then you will be able to give yourself any experience you desire. The wonderful irony is, when you have everything, you are satisfied and cease desiring to experience everything.

New systems (games) begin to beckon []

[WalkerInTheWoods]

All this time I thought I was looking for love in someone else when in reality I was looking for it in me.

[skymageinfinity]

Alright....

After about 1 month from my last post I realised that what everyone else is saying about finding your true love in yourself is true... well as true as true can be.

So what now? How do I love my self? Do I keep looking in the mirror and watch my head bop up and down while I dance to the beat or is there some 'special' way of doing things.

Azaithoth... I think I think thats your name, I cant remember... its ok... I want you to help me this time...


as a friend...

[Kristen]

Hi Skymageinfinity -

I came upon this thread, and gotta tell you, you definitely are not alone.  I have some thoughts and some advice from my perspective.  Maybe it'll be useful, maybe not - but I am inspired to give it a try.

I just scanned through the posts so may be repeating others here and there - but my personal take on your question is that it sounds to me (and tell me if I'm on the right track here by all means) that you're longing for connection to what I would call loving presence of the creator - God the father as it were - or however you might characterize and personalize such a concept; and, a soul mate.

The world is a hostile place, and human beings are lonely and alone in it. If I were to put a name to your thread, I would call it "existential angst." We are alone, and we seek for connection to that which is greater than us, directly by seeking God, or the Source, or the (some name here).  To me, a soul mate is the personification in the concrete world of a piece of God that interacts with us where we are - spiritually, intellectually, emotionally, physically.  

Longing for belonging, connection, comfort, love, safety in trust and all that neat stuff - in experiencing spirituality and having it in the mundane in the form of a loving other/mate/community is what I'm hearing you talk about.

We are all alone, but not.  Every one of us seeking with different levels of awareness - some folks find it, for a short time, for a long time - I had it once, and am looking for it again.  When our needs are met on a certain level, we grow, and that level stops sufficing unless it can change with us.  We start another climb up a steep slope of growth, until we find another level - and on and on again until we leave this world.  Sounds to me that you are on a spiritual developmental path, that you have opened yourself up to that possibility - good for you.

It takes time, but don't give up - connection to/relationship with loving presence in the universe is possible. Its not necessarily constant though. I've felt it and I'm not anywhere near complete as some respondents would have us believe that we might need to be to "deserve" a connection.  No person is ever totally and permenantly centered and aware of who it is that they are and what it is that they want, whether they are 21, 37, or 68, or 100.  If someone is sure of who they are and what they want - and that is constant for a significant piece of time, then maybe they are less than human, or more than human, or maybe they are being dishonest with themselves or others, or, maybe they lack understanding, or they are sufficiently underdeveloped to be aware of the phenomenological complexity of consciousness and living.  It takes a certain combination of emotional intelligence, temperament, trait, motivation, personality characteristics... etc and so on and so forth, to participate in angst consciously, honestly, in a meaningful way, without self-deception and self-distraction, with knowledge of how we may be "blind," or at least with awareness of that possibility - being humble enough to admit it at least to ourselves. (IN MY OPINION)

What I think the key is, is having a level of comfort with ambiguity, with not knowing fully, but having a level of faith, and geniunely asking and actively seeking, with pure emotion, for that relationship - that connection.  It takes courage and sustained energy to be geniune and actively seek, it takes courage and sustained energy to be willing to feel and experience geniunely the sorrow and suffering so that one can continue to seek for what one is seeking in a conscious way.

So what to do?  That geniuneness and intesity of emotion is important - want connection with all your heart and soul.  Wait until you feel that desire for loving connection with acute clarity - prepare for acutely feeling its absence - because things are defined by their absence, and then when alone and focused in that - ask in prayer - or whatever magical ritual you use.  Keep doing it.  And have faith.  Use your angst.  And, periodically and systemically throughout, give yourself a break from the effort and just enjoy good things that life has to bring you.  We all need a break and to go easy and just be - that's about balancing effort and taking care of yourself.

By the way - like I said before - connection/being in relationship to source/to love is a process that has its low and high points.  It takes practice and understanding of the process to balance the extremes.

I hope this helps - this all from a fellow seeker - and is all IMO.

Kristen

P.S.  Arrogance, unfeeling, and intolerance demonstrated consistantly without regard for context or purpose are definitely not character atributes of a person I would want to take spiritual advice from. If we would take advice from someone, let that person demonstrate a working and geniune understanding of Humility and being for others - let them at least demonstrate respect for the human spirit, and a lack of need for unecessary power differentials.

[pod3]

Ehmmm, what exactly were you trying, in the first place? What are we even taking about?!

[TheLunatic]

quote:Originally posted by Tisha

Skymageinfinity,
It might seem unfair, but capable women run screaming from men who put out the kind of vibe that you are putting out.  It is no wonder you are coming up empty-handed.
Here is where to start:  Yourself!  Keep your magic antennae out, but STOP LOOKING! YOU'RE TRANSMITTING ANXIETY AND DESPERATION!  Even if you do not think of yourself as anxious and desperate, it is the vibe you are putting out.  
You need to become the kind of man who actually has something to offer to the world.  Build your power-base!  Prove yourself to be a man who will take the initiative and effect change.  Women can't resist THAT vibe.

Blah, too much work that requires way too much energy. Best to just sit and eat chocolate donuts while watching old star track re-runs.

Ho-ray this one has the Borg in it.

-luke

[TheLunatic]

quote:Originally posted by skymageinfinity

If magic is so powerful where is my love? I have been asking this question ever since I have began to understand and follow the magic path. No matter how many answers it provides for what I ask it to provide me with, it NEVER provides me an answer about who I am to be with.

Well I don't admit to knowing too much about magical type stuff but it helps if you are in an area with a high ratio of females. I myself have found that women are much more friendly and less judgmental when they haven't been out in six months because all the guys already have girlfriends. Thus making it easier to find someone who you can get along with.

But maybe that seems strange to those of you who already live in an area with less than a 60% male ratio. I unfortunately don't.

If you're male and are thinking of moving to Norfolk, Virginia than know that you are going to be very unhappy here.

[skymageinfinity]

If magic is so powerful where is my love? I have been asking this question ever since I have began to understand and follow the magic path. No matter how many answers it provides for what I ask it to provide me with, it NEVER provides me an answer about who I am to be with.

If all of us magic folks are made to be lonely, then where is my lonely magic folk? NO matter what I do or what I try, I might be able to make the world spin the other way... but I can not create love!!!

My dreams occasionaly show me who she is... but even if I did understand who she really was... I could not dream forever!!!

skymagelonelycomeandbringmebacktolife