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General-Army

Why would they need space helmets if they exist in the astral? Also, why would they need these space helmets when they are in their own ships?

Child of the Forest

While they most likely do astrally travel, they have to come here physically as well in order to do what they are doing. I heard that they come from the andromedan galaxy and use worm holes like the bermuda triangle to travel back and fourth physically with their crafts.

Tarconiss

As to what General-Army said, with why do they need the helmets and such... I would think that if indeed those are helmets; when looking at the in the astral, it wouldnt mattter much anyways. It would just be a look, or how they show themselves. Its kindof like how in the astral you can shapeshift, if you so desire to.  and with th helmets in thier space ship thing, [an easy to answer but far-fetched responce] maybe its like Darth Vader, with how they might need the Helmets to survive... *shrug*.... I'm not doing much for the defence of it, but those are, possible answers to why they appear like that.

  Also in truth as to, being able to shift in dimensions and such, i believe that if one is so experienced to, They CAN allow their physical bodies to, shift in dimensions. Angel's do it all the time... Infact an angel helped bring my cousin's together and wrap them with a blanket, in the middle of no-where, when they and my aunt was in a car crash, years back. I also have a friend, who's little brother saw an angel in his room one day, when he was a child, after his mother had come back from her first visit to a church. He was to young to know any better about these kindof things, and had no previous knowledge of angels or spiritual beings, being that he had never been to a church or heard anything of the such, and he being about 3 or 4 years old when it happened.
If someone has the knowledge, and wants to do something, how far do you think they can go, if they lack the experience, and are unable to sustain the amount of effort needed to succeed?  ~ Self 2/25/2003

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Child of the Forest

The greys don't mutialte the cattle...
...that is most likely the governmet who does that, probably testing some new procedures in development. "Helicopters" have been seen leaving the scene of mutialtions. Or atlealst I hope it wouldn't be the visitors who would do something so terrible...

Lenigme

I heard that they can't stand carbon and Hydrogen whish could explain why their phisical vehical (body) needs the suit and helmet.

Hephaestus

If you ask me you're all speaking from the experiences you've all had of reading multiple resources online about the Greys, I too have read much about them and seen TV programs about them and its come to my attention that the number of different perspectives regarding the greys is too much to know for sure who they are, what they want, whether they're good guys or not and whether they exist at all.
Ive read they're good guys, ive read they're bad guys who do experiments, ive heard their race is dieing so they're cross breeding with humans to start a new race, ive heard they're from an alternate reality, ive heard they're from andromeda, ive heard they're from Zeta Reticuli, ive heard they're actually biological robots designed by a sophisticated race to do their bidding. Ive seen programs where people have been hypnotised to remember their abductions some have said they were very nice beings who showed movies and were told things must change to better mankind and some have said these aliens did extremely painful experiments on them.

Who do you believe? what is the truth? perhaps there is no truth but merely the minds of many individuals who have a belief system they've some how created that they believe to be correct.

I could tell you they're from an alternate reality, someone else could tell you they're merely from another planet - whos right?

Child of the Forest

I noticed in one of the posts about remote viewing and ET life that some of you believe that the greys are "demonic" believe me, I know from experience with them that they are not demonic at all. They are far from it. The faces that you see are actually space helmets, the big black eyes are nothing more than windows in the helmet. If you saw an astrounaut from earth for the very first time haveing basically no knowledge about them, you would think they had glass for a face, with no features what so ever....
Anyway, they have great healing powers are their sole purpose for visiting this planet is to awaken mankind to the spirit, to the forces of the greater good, and to stop mankind from destroying the planet. Plenty of people who have been visited by them, ranging from pre-schho children to the elderly have become more aware of the spirit and their connection to the planet. Poeple have become vegetarian because the visitors told them it is wrong to slaughter animals, they way humans do, when their are victimless alternitives availiable to us. The visitors mostly communicate with word pictures that are highly symbolic... The same way that the spirits in the higher astral planes and the spirit realms do. The reason that some people percieve them to be "demonic" is from an unnesessary fear somhow instilled in them, the same type of thing that makes people afraid of a harmless garden snake. Also, I those of you who are not afraid of mice...

If you were in a room and a mouse came in in, crawled up to you and was curiosely looking at you, you might react in a wide range of ways, but none of them would be fear derived. you might come back and tell a friend then that you had seen a friendly little mouse who was curious about you, perhaps that you even interacted with him, pet him or fed him a piece of cheese or something.

On the other handm the same exact mose doing the same exact thing comes into a room and crawls up to a person who is scared to death of mice. This person comes back to you with a horror story perhaos telling you how horrible the mose was, that the mose tried to bite or attack the person, was staring at them menicingly and so  fourth.

The visitors are here to teach the greater good, some people don't want to hear it, so the visitors have to push a little... Its kind of like say, whenyour parents want you to do something, and you don;t want to do it. You parents think that they are doing something that will benifit you, and so compel you to do it. This is why some people interpret experiences with the visitors as being negative, when in actuallity, this type of experience can be greatly productive and enjoyable. I recommend anyone intersted read a book called Breakthrough by Whitley Strieber, this goes through everything, exaplaining the things that they have taught him, and how he came to know their true purpose for coming here.

The visitors have direct communication with the spirit world, unlike humans, because their eyes are far less clouded and their being is more pure. I've even read about some people seeing the visitor during Near Death Experiences, as well as cases where departed loved ones have come for visits with the visitors. Many children have written things about them, and how friendly they are and how they teach things of great truth. Some children have written about how after their parents go to sleep the visitors play with them in their backyards and stuff...

as Whitley says in his book, and I find this to be true, if the children who wrote these letter were lying, then they wouls most likely base their lies off of the media's horror based abduction stories, which is far from what is happeneing here.

~Child of the Forest