Cassiopaean Channeling Discussion

[BlackBox]

The way you lay it out, piecing it together, is really a good way to discredit the material without giving it proper focus and effort in reading it thoughtfully.

If anyone is actually interested in reading it, start from the beginning of "The Wave Series".
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm

I have also summed up the transcripts on another forum, WRH. It's in its own section: "Cassiopaea". You'll have to sign up. I was only a member of this forum briefly.
http://hraunfjord.com/whatreallyhappened/viewforum.php?f=19

The latter url is for those who don't have the time to read the full content of the Wave series. It is a large quantity of the transcripts.

Namaste.

[Akensai]

OMG now i see; BlackBox is a Cassiopaean fanboy!!

[Taalnar]

quote: OMG now i see; BlackBox is a Cassiopaean fanboy!!

I'm rooting for the Zeta's myself. []

But seriously, does anyone know of any prophecies or anything compelling that Cassiopaean channelings have revealed?  I see a lot of "these guys are STS but we're STO", and "bad things are happening soon", but I'm still yet to see anything compelling.

They also blamed Israel for the WTC 9/11 thing and said the real planes were transported to 4th density and what we saw were US government drones crashing.  I honestly can't see any verification of these things  though I'm still waiting.

[Akensai]

quote:They also blamed Israel for the WTC 9/11 thing and said the real planes were transported to 4th density and what we saw were US government drones crashing. I honestly can't see any verification of these things though I'm still waiting.

Hahaha that's ridicules!

If you want you can see alien theories behind everything, but the truth (at least mine) is that we humans are more than capable of making a mess of things ourselves.

[Mystic Cloud]

Thanks for posting this channeling.

This has all got a very familiar feeling to it.
I listened to the whole broadcast at this frequency,
while it felt fantastic it also didn't somehow 'catch' me
that much. Gave fun points to speculate on though.

I still get the feeling from this that it is junk
with very little truth in it. Feels the same like
I would read a good fiction. As far as I can tell,
this is not from my own belief system but what it feels
like, since I tend to 'believe' everything at once. []

For the prophecies, many prophecies tend to fall because the
future is not set for us experiencing it. This is the neatness
with a system like structurized random chaos. Free will []

As for the secret goverment if there exists one. Everyone
resisting change will in the end be crushed like flies. Try
to resist the flow of the Universe and you might get what I
mean. [}:)]

[Nay]

http://www.rael.org/english/index.html

Click on Rael-tv at the top, then watch the UFO Truth. Now sit back and have a hardy laugh. []

[BlackBox]

Akensai,

quote:OMG now i see; BlackBox is a Cassiopaean fanboy!!

The Cassiopaean text was something I read about a year ago. From reading the transcripts, the way they structured the search for objective truth VS the perception of limiting reality through a subjective angle was highly resonating experience for me.

"The Wave" series is what I valued primarily. I do not read their news page nor do I necessarily believe in their political views. I merely resonate highly with the C-transcripts themselves. The way to truth is not fanatically clinging to one source, it is through examining every piece of knowledge out there, every apple, and to find their intersections by cross and lateral referencing. I'm an 'intersection' fanatic, not a particular channeled source fanatic.

I personally feel the C-transcripts are the closest thing to objective-truth on this planet. That's my personal take and from looking through these pages of endless Zeta-like talks and Sanada-wanna-be's like AA-Michael, you sure don't need to alienate away the single C-enthusiast.

The C-transcripts are nothing in similarity to the Raelian movement. The Raelians are actually quite similar, and in my opinion in the same boat as 100% of the other channeled/mediated sources on this forum, as most of their belief-system follows in line with the Thiaoouban Prophecy and all of that "the mother ship is coming to pick us up, yeee-haaa" new-age propaganda. COINTELPRO.

I must have typed a couple paragraphs at least just now, trying to explain my view-point of why I think the C-transcripts are so valuable. But I deleted it because I don't have the energy to focus on defending something that I have put much time prior in analysing and examining. I personally didn't believe it at first. I had a skeptical mind on it all. But when I started referencing, by my attempts to prove their allegations incorrect, everything lined up. So I'm a supporter of their specific message because I have put countless of hours trialing the transcripts, bit by bit.

Namaste.

[Akensai]

quote:I personally feel the C-transcripts are the closest thing to objective-truth on this planet. That's my personal take and from looking through these pages of endless Zeta-like talks and Sanada-wanna-be's like AA-Michael, you sure don't need to alienate away the single C-enthusiast.

Closest thing to objective truth you say. WHY?

I'm not sure if your going to answer that, it doesn't matter, because let me tell you. We know so little of things we can not possibly say if the "C-transcripts" are objective truth or objective garbage. Neither can I or you say that any other channeling is false/un-objective.(I hope I don't have to explain why) What bothers me about you is you act like you know, you go around judging others and you come up whit what, the Cassiopeaens? Debunking other beliefs and praising your own. THAT in my book making you come very close to being a fanboy. (There are less pleasant words for it to)

[Mystic Cloud]

Ahh, thought I got a bit sidetracked,
got to check those c-scripts then []

The most valuable thing in these channelings
is the fact that you filter out the 'crap' from it
yourself. That way you get the most of it.

[SpectralDragon]

quote:Originally posted by BlackBox
Sanada-wanna-be's like AA-Michael, you sure don't need to alienate away the single C-enthusiast.

You have yet to prove anything objectively still blackbox. Show us these so called channelings that AA Micheal is "a copy of." Then we can actually have a discussion instead of useless dogmatic rambling.

As for the casseopeans I had a hard time finding anything in the way of actuall channelings on thier site, could someone link me to the actuall main channeling part?

[Akensai]

http://www.vincentbridges.com/cassIntro.html

[BlackBox]

It starts out simple, depicting ideas that coincide with the alchemical law of 'As Above, So Below' and Toltec philosophies of the dualistic relationship that exists within the materialized Universe.

We, as a species in 3rd Density, are inbetween two points of references. What is above us, such as the cosmos in extremity, and that which is below us, such as nature. By above and below, I mean to imply what is consciously aware in lower densities and higher densities, and definately not to judge any life on any plane to be higher or lower in importance. Life is a conduit, where the beginning point and the ending point are both the same. This means all points are of equal value.

There structure in the cosmos. There is structure in nature. We can assume by that, that their structure in our density also. Structure in the cosmos can be symbolized by two big points of reference.

1.) Black-Hole
2.) Star/Sun

They represent the major duality in the Universe which plays its way down in importance all the way down to our density. The Black-Hole represents sustaining 'oneself' by means of sucking energy from ones environment and whatever exists within that environment. A Star represents sustaining oneself by radiating and producing energy of its own accord, and emitting that energy outwards. The former takes and destroys life while the latter gives and creates life. It could also be theorized that they work together in dark-matter existence to form a Universal recyclement of energy and therefore matter.

A person in 3rd Density can either choose to give and create or take and destroy. In our reality it is a mix of both. We are all dominantly acting (of the 6 billion) more like black-holes than we are as stars. Most of our humanly interactions always have active energic-vampirism which occurs naturally from higher concentrations to lower concentrations, but which also occurs by intention.

Structure of the Universe - Determined by the level of awareness you look at it - Labelled Densities:

1st Density - Entity has sensations - Ie. Snail
2nd Density - Entity has sensations + relations - Ie. Dog - A dog knows his territory. A dog knows 'that' is the Sun, but it does not know that everyday the 'same' sun comes.
3rd Density - Entity has sensations + relations + concepts - Ie. Human - A human knows that the 'sun' he/she sees everyday is the same sun. It theorizes and conceptualizes.
4th Density - Entity has another level of awareness that I cannot label. It may be out of my vocabulary. It allows the 4th Density entity to exist outside of the restrictions/illusion of 'time'.
5th Density - Recyclement Density of Densities 1 - 4. Christians would label this as "Heaven" or "Hell", even though these labels are ignorant due to lack of knowledge, lack of awareness.
6th Density - Entities no longer have physical-composition and can only be labelled as 'thought-forms'. At this level, the Universe is viewed objectively for everything it is.
7th Density - Entities are ONE with everything. The big bang. The body of the Universe. "God", I guess.

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Now the dualism of physical composition VS ethereal composition are important in densities, as 'awareness' determines ultimately everything.

1st Density, 2nd Density, and 3rd Density:

Physicality in composition is strongest from 1st Density while ethereal-composition is lowest. Physicality becomes less dominant, subtly, as ethereal composition (awareness) rises from 2nd Density to 3rd Density, where ethereal-composition leaks out as our 'spiritual' awareness.

4th Density:

Entities exist in 'variable physicality', which means they are equally ethereal in composition as they are physical. Their reality is exactly as they mentally project it. It is what they manifest it to be. For STS (black-hole) entities, this leads to heavy manipulation, while STO (star) entities objectively exist in a harmonious, natural existence. Time is no longer an illusion and in 3D perspective, the moment one graduates to 4th Density, it is already in 5th, 6th, and 7th, and incarnated back into the cycle at 1st Density. That's a bad way of explaining it, but it's really interesting if you reflect on it.

5th Density - Ethereal composition is now dominant. Physicality is no longer evident.

6th Density - Ethereal dominance as 'thought-form'.

7th Density - Everything that is. The environment, time, stars, suns, ALL.

So basically the dualism between physicality and ethereal composition move in relation to each other with your level of awareness.

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All of the above has brought me to view life as objectively-as-possible. I know that my existence will always be biased and hence subjective, but I can still understand that perhaps the most resonating way to view the Universe is to imagine a big-school, graduating from one level to another, as you move from cellular existence to holistic existence.

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If you look at it backwards:

7th Density big bang initiates the ONE to fragment itself to 6th Density. 6th Density fragments itself to 5th Density. 5th Density fragments itself to densities 1-4.

Creation is fragmentation of the ONE to the MANY, and then LIFE (us for example) experiences existence backwards from the MANY to the ONE.

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All of the above is a good example of the objective-view the C-transcripts bring. There are thousands of pages from reading through "The Wave Series" that allow me to sum this stuff up. It cannot be critiqued 'fast' like SD tried to do on another thread. It takes time and effort to slowly go through the material. At the end, you discern between everything you read and decide if it resonates with you.

Since reading these transcripts, I moved from one source to another, discerning between the differences and finding the similarities. The intersections between all of the sources I examine is where I find support towards the objective truths. That is the only way.

Namaste.

[EDIT: No doubt you'll find MANY people like Vincent Bridges and Jay Weidner who strongly attack the C-transcripts. I've corresponded with Jay Weidner through many emails a while back, and he ended up being the most emotional, subjectively biased man I've ever spoken to. I've met too many intelligent scholars through the cass-circle to ever consider men like Bridges and Weidner of the same level of integrity. They have cruel tactics which do not lead me to believe they are wise or noble. They merely do a great job at discrediting themselves by their attempts to discredit the C-transcripts. The material is just way too humble for it to be ridiculed to that level.]

[Akensai]

quote:All of the above is a good example of the objective-view the C-transcripts bring.

It's not objective at all, who is to say it really is like that?

Buddha said there are 31 planes, what do you say of that?

Don't get me wrong I don't care whose concept of reality is the right one; I just want to show you that what the C-transcripts bring you is only a concept, not necessarily the truth.

So isn't that a weak bases to criticize others on?

[BlackBox]

Akensai, you're definately right on your points.

But, alas, I do believe in the C's interpretation of objective-reality.

To each his own.

[LordoftheBunnies]

You know Blackbox, I seem to recall you posting the exact same information earlier.

Other than your limiting the planes to 7, the things that Michael has been saying isnt in any particular disagreement with what you just posted, except that Michael stresses the fact that these 'planes' are far more fluid, numerous and complex than what is presented in most channelings.  In other words, he's trying to say that we shouldn't be dogmatic about things which are hard to understand from our physical perspective to begin with, and that utlimately we should find out about it on our own rather than relying on channeling sources that try to put everything into a neat little box.  I find that the way in which Michael presents this resonates well with me, as I had suspected that the reality of the various dimensions was probably far more complex than what is usually thought of.

Furthermore, you still haven't given any actual evidence that these densities are as you describe them, other than saying "the Cassiopeans and several other channelings say it is this way."  Besides, I seem to recall many other channelings, including Ra, making mention of the fact that there is more beyond 7th density.

As such, I don't feel that claiming Spectral is being afflicted by STDs, or STS or whatever simply because Michael presents this information differently from the Cassiopeans is a particularily valid criticism.

[Akensai]

quote:Originally posted by BlackBox

Akensai, you're definately right on your points.

But, alas, I do believe in the C's interpretation of objective-reality.

To each his own.

Now your making sense.

To each his own.

Try to keep that in mind.

[Taalnar]

The thing about many channelings is that they can give you all of this abstract meaning of life stuff, but when it comes down to answering some specialized knowledge like a math equation or a subject the channeler knows nothing or little about the answers don't seem to come as good.

For example, its all good calling Arafat a peacemaker in '94 but what is he thought of as now?  Is he still a peacemaker?  Its possible he could be descended from Christ since I've heard he has Jewish heritage and technically well anyone could be descended and there is no way we could know for sure anyway.

But what about things that are verifyable like a space invasion?  Should things that are told that aren't true diminish from the whole? But then again, who am I to say what is true?

I guess unless we are looking out the window into the "real" world there really isn't anyway to know for sure.

[MJ-12]

xx

[Reality]

I read through some of the first part of the Wave series. About the woman who would have been taken by ET's recalling all her memories through visions.

And again, what do we have here white skinned huge eye balled midgets and also information that is similar to the zeta thread! That's really a big bad bummer!

Does anyone believe in these creatures?

[Reality]

About STO and STS I'd like to share what I think right now.

They say that by being STO they are also STS right?

I think the point is that if every person out there has an STO attitude, it will be for the benefit of them all, so by serving others they are indeed serving them self as well, only through a way that doesn't cause disbalance.

Let's make an example. We have 10 units living together with 100 energy point;), who enjoy shooting eachother down. Unit 1 insults Unit 2 and steals 10 energy points. Bringing nr1 at 110 and nr2 at 90 points...Of course unit 1 will recover eventually but if this happens too often you can see what might happen.

When everyone is STO, you don't 'take' energy, but you 'give' energy, because you know you can trust on the others to do the same. And when I think about it, giving energy can't be seen as a loss at all, because it feels pretty good right?
And on the long term you'il cause eachother to gradually rise to higher vibrational levels as a group alltogether, instead of having a few energetic individuals at the cost of others.

What I say might be flawed, so be sure to correct me with the way you look at it.

[BlackBox]

Yes, you're speaking of the benefits of a circular-power-structure VS a pyramidal-power-structure.

[Reality]

quote:Originally posted by BlackBox

Yes, you're speaking of the benefits of a circular-power-structure VS a pyramidal-power-structure.

Wow you hit the nail right on the spot! That's exactly it. And here I go explaining it in a difficult way....ha ha ha!

[BlackBox]

I enjoyed your method though. More practical [8D]

What it comes down to is if we look at what 'structure' really is, from above or below our density, we can better organize and discipline our actions as to promote it rather than promote it's arch-enemy, chaos.

What I mean is: There are atoms everywhere. What is the relationship between atoms which form structures? Like a brick of a piece of wood, for example.

They (atoms) are EXTREMELY close to each other and harmonious to each other. When they act this way, they create. They form foundations which can create something far grander in size than their own cellular bodies.

If we want to promote CREATION in our comunities, organizations, governments, families, then we must have this type of power-structure. An atom isn't conscious in the manner that we are. It just acts. Because it just acts, it doesn't manipulate, and manipulation is only something that comes from a hierarchy, a status quo. Atoms don't 'want' things for themselves. If they did 'want', then a hierarchy could possibly be established at their level, and a status-quo would create a cause and effect for vampirism.

If we act in unison with everyone and they do the same, we promote structure. If we have ill-feelings towards our enemy and act towards giving them different treatment than we would our family and friends, then we ourselves, consciously or subconsciously, add to that hierarchy/status-quo. If we do that, we are not acting like atoms that form structure, we act like atoms that break-it-down, a.k.a. chaos.

So it comes down to: If we have vision, we work together. If we are narrow-minded, we work for ourselves.

[Moonburn33]

silly social creature.

maybe this is about having the right ratio of chaos to order.  if we worked together without expressing our individual needs then we would be hive-minded.  do you know how much art a hiveminded society puts out? nil.  do you know how much music or philosophy?

chaos is necessary.  

this message has been brought to you by Yin and Yang, EQUAL partners since before your 11th great grandmother was born.

[BlackBox]

Moonburn, my comment was to Reality in discussing the circular-power-structure.

I value individualism in those regards also. However I'm not speaking of attributes such as creativity, innovation, etc, and their application for creations such as art...you are taking what I'm saying and pulling it down a slippery slope.

I am speaking in regards to our energy and in what ways we structure ourselves, independantly, as to not drain one another in a predator/prey interaction. I am saying that if we act in unison, harmony, and yes, in a hive-mindish approach in the way we circulate our energy, chaos occurs naturally as OPPOSED to by manipulation.

Chaos by manipulation comes from conscious agendas and motives, hierarchies and status-quo, self-proclaimed superiors over inferiors.

In such a circular-power-structure, that is where the hive-mind qualities end. It certainly does NOT impose itself over individualistic freedom.

And yes the Ying/Yang philosophy is well-known, but that does not mean it is necessarily well-understood.