Collapsing quantum wavefunctions feels like pulling a zipper closed

[beavis]

In quantum/multiverse theory, "wavefunction" means the set of possibilities that we call reality, with different probabilities for each and how they fit together. Collapsing a wavefunction means for 1 of those possibilities to become real, the only possibility that happens in our experience. I think it doesn't ever completely collapse (as the Copenhagen Interpretation says it does) and it instead becomes more probable and the others become less probable. But either way, this thread is about moving things with your mind.

Years ago when I was much more skilled at it, sometimes when I would move things with my mind, images of the thing would form in my mind of various possibilities of where it could move in the next few seconds. What I found works is pay attention to 2 or more of them at once, only those that are close to where the object (to be mentally moved) is now, and when the 2 images in my mind merged, the object really moved to their average position. It felt like the different views of where it could be were 2 things I was mentally zipping together, like you pull a zipper on your clothes to pull 2 pieces of cloth together.

I think that whatever I was thinking at the time caused the branches of the multiverse to zip together onto the specific possibility I wanted, and I think everyone does that all the time but they're just not good at it so don't do it enough to notice.

Scientists say even the smallest observation or interaction with a quantum wavefunction (the sum of possibilities) causes it to collapse. Maybe by mentally (in a psychic/astral/etc way) observing 2 or more branches of the multiverse just before they were going to happen or not happen, that causes them to observe each other and collapse, or maybe I'm the observer. Theoretically, it doesn't matter how big the wavefunction is, because you can observe only a small part of it to force the rest of it to collapse. Its only observing, like a single photon (light particle) or more hitting it. You don't need to put much force on it.

After writing that, now I remember something even stranger. When trying to simply observe the possibilities like that, I started to see still pictures of the possibilities (of the thing I was trying to mentally move) in my mind, and the still pictures got farther and farther ahead of time, each maybe 1.5 or 2 times farther ahead in time than the last, from milliseconds ahead to maybe 5 seconds ahead. Either way, as still pictures or feeling like zipping the possibilities, it only really moved when I was thinking about it being very close to where it is now, like less than a millimeter, and gradually moving. It never worked to think about where I wanted it to be. I had to think about the whole path continuously and update my thoughts each continuous amount it moved. What I find strangest about the still pictures that came into my mind are that they were organized in a logical structure something like a binary tree, or maybe it was a tree with a higher branching factor than 2.

[NoY]

Interesting Post
thanks for sharing 

:NoY:

[beavis]

I was hoping it would be more than something interesting to read... that people would try it for some time then write what happened. Its more general than moving small things with your mind. Its how lots of things work.

Example: If you watch football, for example, you could think about your team making a touchdown in a certain path through the field (in the way of thinking I described above), then see if it happens a little more often than you would expect from random chance (at the times you try this), but be aware they often delay "live" video by a few seconds. Or you could try it when gambling.

[Pauli2]

The Wave:

The Wave exists when you have no clue of where the particle is, (for your calculations) you substitute the particle with a fuzzy ball of probabilities where you think the particle might be. The fuzzy ball is called 'the probability wave'


The Measurement:

You make a measurement on the fuzzy ball, which forces the particle to shed a photon and tell you the particle's position. Now there is no more probability, instead there is 100% knowledge of exactly where the particle is. This absolute 100% knowledge is called 'the collapse of the probability wave'.


The Wave (again):

As time passes, you lose the position of the particle as it moves on in space, and you again have to consider the particle's position growing into a fuzzy ball, a 'probability wave', (for your calculations).


Measurements can for example be done by applying a magnetic field on the volume of the fuzzy ball. I don't think any of this has much to do with the astral, as it's all measured in the physical world.

[beavis]

Isn't it a balance between the position and momentum (or some other pairs of properties, I read) as described by the uncertainty principle, instead of 100% knowledge of its position? I'm not sure, but shouldn't it be really hard to get toward either end of that balance (0% or 100%)?

"Measurements can for example be done by applying a magnetic field on the volume of the fuzzy ball. I don't think any of this has much to do with the astral, as it's all measured in the physical world."

I can't prove it (yet), but this is what I think... There are continuous paths from every part of the universe to every other part. There is no line between astral and physical, just rotations and other shape changes etc. Astral may tend to have different laws-of-physics, but there is a way that everything works. Things are only magic until you learn how they work.

[Pauli2]

What I say is that whatever nature law you mention, it is still only physics. It may have some kind of specific name, like quantum physics, but it is still only one science out of many about the physical world.

You don't have anything in science that's able to tell us anything about the Laws of Nature about the non-physical world, because no such measurements exists.

Yes, science has lots of repeatable, congruent experiments, but they are all still about the physical world. No one has found anything repeatable that connects us to the non-physical world.

No Go.

No Nobel Price.

No non-physical formulas.


A repeatable, complicated quantum physics formula, may be so complicated that it requires 10 parameters, but it is still only a formula about the physical world.

Physical. Physical. Physical.

Physical. Physical.

Physical.


Particles.

Physical particles.

The physical world. Physical.

A new formula will only be interesting when someone comes back with a formula about something non-physical.


Noting that we still don't know everything about quantum physics, noting that measurements can't be done exact, and noting that particles in quantum physics are divided into quanta, _still_ don't give us any info about the non-physical. Quantum physics only tell us today, that we:

A. Don't know everything about quantum physics about the physical world.

B. That we suck at doing exact measurements when we go down to particles of ridiculous small detail.

[beavis]

I don't know what these words "physical" and "nonphysical" mean. There is a way that every part of the universe works. Some people use the word "nonphysical" to mean magic or things that can never be explained or understood. Things only look like magic until you learn how they work. Do you have some reason to think telekinesis and telepathy and astral etc are magic instead of have some logical behaviors?

[NoY]

try physics
and Metaphysics

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