Controlling the weather

[Nightwolf]

Yes. Everything one can imagine is possible.  I try not to separate what the human mind is capable of for instances separating Pyrokinesis with Telekinesis in this way its 2 different catagories but in reality is just simply you putting energy into what you wish to acomplish.

AND DONT FORGET THE GRAVEY THIS TIME []

[Nightwolf]

If you are still interested in looking for the specific "catagory" I think its called something like

Metrokinesis or something like that [|)]

[Mystic Cloud]

Yes this is possible, but you should be aware
of the consequences of this since you do not just change
the weather where you are but also all around you.

It would be better to know more about how the weather is
formed and what the conseqeuences of different types of
weather is before starting with this area.

For shamans this is no problem, but I doubt they
will change it unless the reason is very good.

[ImmuredSoul]

Oh, that's interesting, nightwolf . . . thanks. oh, and what gravity?

mystic cloud: i was just wondering about it, not wanting to use it. Too much going on to add something new. Curiousity is something that seems to overtake me. I know that it would affect everything . . . hmm, a side thought: you think somebody who has gotten themselves control of the weather could have started the whole melting glacier carp? other stuff? just curiousity [xx(][][|)]

[Hadeslave]

ok, Hi I'm Allyson (nice to meet you). I was never really a believer in this (and lately I've been getting teased for my friends for even attempting this) but one day when I was bored, I rubbed the wall, and sure enough, I felt the vibrations. It was a really weird feeling, but I tried the antenna like you said and I feel nothing. I can't get anything out of metal, but walls and desks, I can get vibrations out of. Maybe it's because my bed is close to the wall so i used to rub the wall to help me go to sleep, but I've never felt this before. so i have two questions. Is this normal? And how can I get vibrations from metal?

[ImmuredSoul]

Well hi Hadeslave . . . I think you posted in the wrong place . . .

Anyway, the correct name for this is Atmokinesis, I believe . . . oh well, I'll look more into it later on . . . so many things out there, I am wishing I could just learn them all real quickly, but training to learn things is fun too, hehe . . . Still, all it "sounds" like to me is that if you have control on one of these abilities you should be able to get a handle on the rest. Like I previously mentioned/asked, wouldn't this be some combination of areokinesis and hydrokinesis? Wouldn't pyrokinesis just be using telekinsis in a way? Or possible aerokinesis as telekinesis? So many things can go one way and another, and it's just making me dizzy . . . [xx(]

Oh yeah, and Nightwolf, you say that everything anyone thinks of is possible, then why can't we control our bodies when we're in astral or whatever? I think we should be able to teleport or something to where our astral form is . . . to dematerialize it from one place and to the place we are at, instead of us being force back into our bodies . . . I've vague on AP information, but I'm learning, and trying to ask as many questions as I can to learn . . . next stop: Google!

. . . And, Hadeslave, welcome to the forums . . .

[James S]

I feel the more appropriate name for it is "stupid-kinesis"

Weather happens for a reason.
Change it, or try to control it, and you end up messing with something pretty finely balanced that could end up causing more problems than the original intention was worth.

Just a though.....
- James.

[Moonburn33]

instead of directly controlling the weather, maybe you could try to devise a spell, or whatever you would call it, to make your immediate environment better.

[ImmuredSoul]

well, if somebody has really great control of the weather then it wouldn't really make things worse, but better. If crops are dehydrated and need water just get you some rain . . . or better yet, use hydrokinesis . . .

[Mystic Cloud]

quote:Originally posted by James S



Weather happens for a reason.
Change it, or try to control it, and you end up messing with something pretty finely balanced that could end up causing more problems than the original intention was worth.

I agree that the weather system is delicate.
Though I believe that most of the time it doesn't happen for
some bigger reason. It just responds to the need of nature.

But by controlling weather you should be very careful, because
you can create massive side-effects just because you want
the sun to shine []

It is better to request a weather for a timepoint instead of
creating it. That way you don't 'screw up' the system.

The point is that if everyone on every 'dry' place starts
controlling the weather to rain it will soon change the whole
climate there. This is also why you should have a good expertise
in how the weather functions. I would say that it is easier
to create a specific type of weather than foresee the outcome
of the whole.

[Anonymous]

quote:Originally posted by Nightwolf

If you are still interested in looking for the specific "catagory" I think its called something like

Metrokinesis or something like that [|)]

Actually it is called atmokinesis

[Rastus]

There is an ancient (several hundred years old) nursery rhyme that goes:
Rain, Rain
Go Away
Come Again, some other day
Little (name goes here) wants to play

It is the most basic of spells.  The Desire is "Rain go away", the Limiter is "come again some otehr day" less you get draught, and of course the Impetous is some child wants to play.

Weather is best left alone, except in dire cirmcumstances.  It is an incredibly complex system that can have all kinds of bad things happen with a little push in the wrong spot.  You may get you rain where you want it, but who isn't getting thiers?

[Kodemaster]

It would be nice if someone could divert most of the rain we had every summer for the past few years in upstate NY out to the southwest, where those forest fires won't seem to end! Seems like a fair trade, right? []

[Lynx]

Sure it's possible to control the weather....I did! []

Me and a girlfriend of mine was planning to go snowboarding here in Norway earlier this year...in April.
The rain was pouring down the day before, and the weather-forecast didn't announce improvements for the day after,
so I used a technique I've learned on Silva UltraMind. (I've been on two courses heretofore)
The technique is called "3 Scenes". First I count myself down to my basic psychic level (alpha frequency).
Then I visualize in the first scene to my right, the situation I want to change...(rain pouring down).
In the second scene, at front of me, I visualized the sun coming in to my bedroom the morning after, and a blue sky above the mountain.
In the third scene, to my left, I visualize me and my friend surrounded by the sun smiling and having a good time snowboarding.
From the course, we've learned that the more we exaggerate how happy we are in scene 3, the better the technique works.

The day after, the sun actually shine into my bedroom just like I had asked for the night before.[^]
When we arrived at the mountain after a couple of hours driving, the dark, wet clouds started to surround the mountain, and to my big dissapointment it started to rain all over the place.
But after we had followed the lift all the way to the top of the mountain, the dark clouds began to dissolve and the blue sky showed up accompanied by the sun [8D]
When we stood on the mountain-top and looked at the surrounding mountains, there was really dark clouds and dirty weather as far as we could see! The ONLY blue sky we saw was on top of us [] It ONLY covered the ski-center, which isn't that big.
And the weather stayed this way for hours! []
Only when we at the end of the day got tired and got inside the rest-cabin, the rain started to fall.

The weatherforecast announced dark clouds and heavy rainfall in ALL of the state I'm living in...and they were right...except for the small spot where I was snowboarding []

But of course, maybe it was my lucky day. I think this was too incredible to just have been my luck though...

My Silva UltraMind-teacher told me that she and some other "metaphysical" friends of her had used the same technique to make an anti-mosquito-bubble around a barbecue-party they were having.
If they clapped their hands before making the bubble, they would have a meatball in their hands...it was that much mosquitos. After the party got together on their psychic level and made the bubble, not ONE mosquito came inside it.

Lots of things are possible to manipulate if it's for the best for one individual or more []

[Rob]

I've never tried to control the weather using any psychic/magic type abilities (well, not exactly), but I know it is possible to affect it using various devices. The most effective and simple is the cloudbuster, as originally developed by wilhelm reich. However, its use is not recommended for this reason http://www.keelynet.com/ecology/cloudbst.htm
Gives a good run-through of the potentially disastrous consequences of radically changing weather patterns - sorry Kodemaster, thats already been done, and is not a good plan!!
But I dont think this is such a problem for a technologically unassisted practitioner, as any effects will likely be considerably more limited. A proper understanding of the local ecology being recommended though, in finely string areas (I dont think it would be such an issue here in the UK).

Rob

[Krevency]

quote: I feel the more appropriate name for it is "stupid-kinesis"

Ha!  I read that over a minute ago and I'm still kind of chuckling.  Stupid-kinesis!  I have no idea *why* that strikes me a so funny.

Well, ImmuredSoul got (his/her?) answer.  And we all know that changing the weather is a bad idea.  

Thanks for the experience, Lynx!  Very cool indeed.

[daem0n]

why people want to measure and label everything ??
all i hear is: hmmm, what kind of kinesis could it be, etc etc
why bother i prefere a**hole-kinesis, just for your curiosity

as for affecting the weather, i seriusly doubt that you could really mess it up, you simply are to small for it

it is usually limited to local climate, and it is self regulating system

controlling weather is impossible, you can suggest it a new (heh, SLIGHTLY different) pattern, and then wait... eventually add more energy to information you're passing, or pass information that will gather energy to aid first information

it was going to rain on our camp, so we set up to clear the sky

predictably, we got side effects
1) one of the friends (non) was drained to state of deep sleep, of course we refilled him (these thelemites, no respect for anything [])
2)after we cleared the sky above us, we fixed time to rain the next day, again too much effort and it was raining 5 hours before established time, so... we cleared it again to no-clouds in half an hour, and forgot to program back rain on established time :/

no kinesis, just will []

these was done in 2.5 persons (one with heritage, but no training)

as for cloudbusters, this is bigger thing and i wouldn't mess up with it, but they can be also used to reestablish balance

[Rob]

Hhhmm well its good to see someone who is familiar with cloudbusters - out of interest, do you have any ideas on how they work? I'm still looking for a decent working theory. I really want to get some of Reichs books on them, but alas those ones seems pretty rare these days (just ordered 3 others of his yerterday though, cant wait to get em!).
Rob

[daem0n]

i wasn't really into them, just found the metatech topic here [] and gather clues

as for my theory, you mean why they change weather or why orgone accumulator/generator works ??

[ImmuredSoul]

A) Is this possible?

B) Wouldn't it be some combination of AK and HK?

[pod_3]

Cloud busting/building/dissipation can be accomplished with no other technique than a willful gaze.

[GANAMOHA]

i think i have mild hydrokenisis fore the past three days it has been very cloudy and one time i felt a wave of energy (energy high) so i decided if i could make it rain. i concentrated on my self and then gravity and kind of mult. it in a way. so it was like i was pulling the rain out of the coulds and it worked. but it was only spinkles of water and lasted only a few seconds but it was cool. but i could only do it if there was a cloud big enough and had enough moister.(foor some reason i can see moister in the air and ground)

[Archnea]

I don't try to control the weather but sometimes I swear the weather empathizes with me and likes to gain my notice. I had a mixed storm songs tape when I was younger and every time I played it, it would storm. Last night I wore a shirt (that I made) to the Witches Ball. My kids told me, "Mom don't wear it every time you wear that shirt it rains!" The first time I wore it we got caught in a downpour on May Day. The second time I wore it we got caught in a downpour at a fair. Sure enough I wore it last night and it rained on us. I guess it's my magic rain shirt.

[narfellus]

In Hermetic Magic controlling the weather is ultimately accomplished thru application of the Will. Of course, for every cause there is an effect, so know the repercussions of what you're doing first. I don't think most wizards would do it that often anyway, and certainly not to "show off"

[pod_3]

I imagine a cigarrette. Repurcussions for weather control, as I see it, would be the same as waving bigger hands through more smoke, so long as we're not talking about creating disaster areas. Pray for permission?

Similarly, in a guide for invisibility and levitation, clouds of programmed ethereal material are gathered.  Cool.

This, too, is a matter of will.