Going insane

[jilola]

Sounds like the rift between regular people and those who have a  more developed perception of the underlying reality.
Subconsciousbly you are aware of the fact that there is much more to reality than meets the eye. When you inhteract with people who live from ignorance of that and give you attitude you perceive the fallacy of the behaviour. The arising subconscious anxiety manifests itself in anger and frustration.

Recognize that, keep your cool and live true.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

[volcomstone]

aphex-twin

I feel the same. everyday I ask WHY IS THIS NECESSARY? why must half the world suffer so that I can enjoy my big screen plasma T.v. and my Mcdonalds big mac super deal meal super sized to go?

It seems that the less benificial to mankind your job is the higher you get paid.

which is why politicians and hockey players are so damn rich.

It's hard to control the feelings of guilt for living, it's almost awkward to enjoy anything.  But you can not be envious of the dead.  Nor can you kill, maim or hurt.  You can only try to educate.

Once the regime of hatred and racism, of greed and old ends we will all be able to live fuller happier lives.  There is A dire problem with the way our society exists.

the human virus is killing this planet.

100 million years from now, we as mere whispers in the ether, shall look back at all we've squandered, all we've toiled over, all we've wasted.

And for what?

So that we can be better than the next person. so that we can rise above? so that we can have some higher ground above the others? so that we can feel big by putting someone else down?

so that we can feel secure in our suburbanite home with security systems and a dog and a perfect green yard.

[Rastus]

Channel it.

Thursday at the grocery I leaned on a crying kid to settle down (he stopped crying).  Regrettabley the checkout line was about 5 deep, and everyone kept scratching their necks.....

My point is you seem to have some MAJOR issues going.  More of a "I'm better than everyone else", Megalomania to be exact.  Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

You sound out of balance.  Power without wisdom is very very bad, and my #1 nightmare about this site.  Free knowledge is not valued.  That's a fact of the flesh, ask any teacher or master.  You seem to not value what you've learned becasue you haven't had to work for it (beyond training excercises).  You are ripe for the darkside, a classic recruit.

Less power building and more Karma?

[Mystic Cloud]

Maybe this NDE story will help you.
It is quite long but I think it is very good.
Everyone has a Higher Self it is just that most people
live in blindness and are 'unaware' of it.

http://www.nderf.org/mellen_thomas_nde.htm

[Aphex-twin]

The thing that i am most scared of is that i will get mad at someone and all this rage and anger will go right to them and my subconsious will geist and hurt them very bad or even kill them without me wanting that,i swear i am a really nice person and would never hurt anyone but i am starting to feel out of control and leathal and if this doesnt go away in the next month i am going to a spiritual resort where i can be alone with no risk of hurting anyone.
This is an extremely real and extremely bad thing going on with me that i hope ends soon,its just that i see the news and here about all this stuff going on in the world and see what goes on around me and how people treat other people and it makes me mad but this anger is out of control and it is dangerous when a regular person feels like this but it is even worse when a psion feels like this.

[Mystic Cloud]

quote:Originally posted by runlola




Have you tried shielding?

sounds like your rage is connecting with a neg...[|)]

I'm not sure how rage is connected to negs?!?
Anger I can still understand but not rage.

[Mystic Cloud]

For me rage is more like a separate force.
It can be used to mold things which are hardly moldable.

It feels more like pure fire essence which starts to burn.
When in this state, energy flows freely through the whole body
and I feel very much empowered.

Though I'm probably talking about something else than the
'normal rage' feeling []

[portal]

Ok, if I may be frank for a moment(maybe too frank), does the word flaky leap into anyone's mind or maybe mentally ill? Don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to attack anyone in particular but rather make a stand for reality. I mean, all this talk about some underlying reality that science can't prove and no one else can even percieve except for the people experiencing these things that are in all probability dillusions or at best dreams. It makes me think that perhaps it's all just wishfull thinking, you may say I'm being negative but I too have had experiences that seemed strange at the time. As a rational person I just can't chalk it all up to something that basically sounds like magic or magic powers. And I'm not disagreeing from a theological point of view, I just see no evidence that suggests that any of this is fact. What's really needed are unbiased tests that can prove the validity of these claims to more than just the people experiencing the phenomena.

[Aphex-twin]

Portal, psi is not for people like you,your government has such a hold on your mind that it makes me sort of laugh,i think that maybe you should actually try to practice for like five months or so and than come back, atleast in that time you might be able to make a psiball or two lol.It makes me happy to see people like you blabbing on about bs because the world doesnt need everyone having psionic abilities.
Im not claiming anything i have made a video that you can check out in the files section but i guess theres no point to even watch it because ofcourse your gonna come back saying its fake and theres no proof that its real and i completely understand why you will say that.
Why even come here to be a skeptic ?? go someone where else where people actually give a sh1t about your opinion.[}:)]


Easy up ladies and gents... Remember the old story 'sticks and stones' etc.

[Reality]

Feeling angry all the time isn't such a good idea.

Stop that, surely you're able to do that. Control those negative feelings.

Take care[]

[Mystic Cloud]

One way to induce inner calmness is to go to start
training Martial Arts or then just go down to the gym and
give the boxing sack hell...

Just let your feelings come up and start punching the sack,
if you aren't experienced with punching I suggest you practice
in slow motion first to not damage your wrists. You might
also want to use boxing gloves to ease it.

Alternately you can take a ball and throw it with all your
force at a wall and keep doing it until you feel calmer.

Don't hold any specific person in your mind though, this is
so that you do not accidently unleash neg. emotions towards
that person. Attack the 'concept' or attitude behind instead with
this technique.

This will help your subconscious to feel and pour out the feelings
inside yourself.

Enjoy []

[portal]

WOW, I think you just proved my point...thanx

[daem0n]

WOW, I think you just proved our point...thanx
hint: it's not a quote [xx(]
if you offer no solutions to a problem shut up
Aphex-twin:
do you use anger and rage as a power up for your abilities??
if you accept that you are angry and know why and what part of your mind is feeling it you see that it makes no sense, observe and understand your emotions, this gives you power over

[Reality]

quote:Originally posted by Mystic Cloud

One way to induce inner calmness is to go to start
training Martial Arts or then just go down to the gym and
give the boxing sack hell...

Just let your feelings come up and start punching the sack,
if you aren't experienced with punching I suggest you practice
in slow motion first to not damage your wrists. You might
also want to use boxing gloves to ease it.

Alternately you can take a ball and throw it with all your
force at a wall and keep doing it until you feel calmer.

Don't hold any specific person in your mind though, this is
so that you do not accidently unleash neg. emotions towards
that person. Attack the 'concept' or attitude behind instead with
this technique.

This will help your subconscious to feel and pour out the feelings
inside yourself.

Enjoy []

That's great advice! Especially the part of resisting the urge of keeping a certain person in mind, hahaha!

[Reality]

quote:Originally posted by portal

I mean, all this talk about some underlying reality that can't prove and no one else can even percieve except for the experiencing these things that are in all probability dillusions or at best dreams. It makes me think that perhaps it's all just wishfull thinking

I just read your message again, and like to say that, if you think those experiences are nothing but dreams/dillusions, you're definetly limiting yourself.

You're right by the way, that we have to beware to not wishfully think ourselves into believing those experiences right away.(living a lie). But there are those who have had experiences, that are undeniable!

By the way, proving these phenomena is unnecassary, this urge only comes if you're still holding the wrathful hand of father "PRIDE'.

Maybe you should start experimenting on your own, and tell us what you think [] As you have nothing to lose, but a bit of 'time'.

havefun;)

and remember the first step to mystic abilities, is to atleast admit the 'possibility'.

[portal]

To daemOn:"WOW, I think you just proved our point...thanx
hint: it's not a quote"
                       Hint:you're a jackass

[Aphex-twin]

Mystic thank you,that was great advice,i have been thinking about taking up martial arts for a while but now i think im going to maybe kung fu or muay tai.Portal please dont post in my topic again,your input is not helpful.

[Jaclyn]

Twin,
 That is so weird. I've been having the same problems, but not as bad (YET). Since I've left the Christian faith (because I had no foundation to base my belief in God on) I've been clueless as to what to do next. So I started practicing astral projction again after stopping for about 4 months because I believed it was a sin and a bad experience I had (btw, would u mind sharing what happened to you? I'm still wondering whether or not AP is dangerous in some way.. but if its private dont worry about sharing [])
 Anyway, since I started practicing AP again, I've had very little patience with other ppl except my brother (who also practices it) and I've had a veeeerrry short temper. In fact, this morning, my sister told me that I scare her now (not something she would normally say if she was being serious)... And earlier my behavior really made me wonder what was going on with me... My dad told me to "get my butt in the kitchen and make some coolaid" and I got irritated and felt pure hatred for a few seconds and let him know it with my eyes... normally I would have dismissed his disrespectful way of talking to me, but my care concerning how other ppl feel towards me is starting to quickly disappear... Kind of scary really... I was wondering exactly what u asked, but didnt want to admit to myself what was happening. Also, I've cut all contact with my friends and as much as possible with my family.. all i do now is play Diablo 2 and practice astral projection. I'm afraid of what will happen when I start school again. :-/ Sry for the long post! []

[bluelite]

The mystic path is not an easy one and was triditionally thought from teacher to student, the teacher was there to asisst the student making sure he arrived safely on his journey.

There are many side effects that can arise from energy work and other mystical exercises. Each case is usually not the same as it may vary from one person to the next based on what types of exercises they were doing.  Not to cause a stir  here but there are quite a few who had to be admitted to mental insitutions from dabbling in the mystical sciences without any real guidance.

Usually when you begin to encounter these side effects one thing that helps is to discontinue any more mystical exercises for a while and instead focus on positive things that you did just before you started this journey


Bluelight

[Eol007]

quote:Originally posted by bluelite

The mystic path is not an easy one and was triditionally thought from teacher to student, the teacher was there to asisst the student making sure he arrived safely on his journey.

There are many side effects that can arise from energy work and other mystical exercises. Each case is usually not the same as it may vary from one person to the next based on what types of exercises they were doing.  Not to cause a stir  here but there are quite a few who had to be admitted to mental insitutions from dabbling in the mystical sciences without any real guidance.

Usually when you begin to encounter these side effects one thing that helps is to discontinue any more mystical exercises for a while and instead focus on positive things that you did just before you started this journey


Bluelight

Hi all,

Excellent points! It is interesting how energy work as an expression of spiritual practice or esoteric work can give rise to apparently negative emotions and feelings, which in turn can seem to distract the aspirant from their path. Obviously anger as one of the more powerful feelings that can have occasion to arise, if not transmuted into a positive feeling or at least released to potentially lead to actual harm to others and oneself.

Martial Arts were mentioned before on this thread, and in my experience have great value in providing a safe growth promoting vehicle for the individual experiencing these feelings. Many years ago I and a number of friends took up Aikido for example. At the time we lived in an extremely violent society (Ulster), and it enabled us and certainly me to move beyond exteriorising angst in a negative manner.

Interestingly one translation we were given for Aikido was 'way of gentle peace and harmony. Which was an apt description don't you think! A little about O Sensei from one site (See: http://www.sfu.ca/~aikido/overview.html): -

Aikido is a relatively new self-defensive art, founded in Japan by Professor Morihei Ueshiba (1883-1969). As a youth, Ueshiba Sensei, or O-Sensei (Great Teacher) as he was called, applied himself to many years of intense training in budo, or the Japanese martial arts. He was a master of Jiu-jitsu, the spear, and the staff, and was considered unbeatable with the sword. O'Sensei also delved deeply into religion and the meaning of life, studying Zen Buddhism and Shinto. Although he became very strong and won many challenges, Ueshiba Sensei was troubled with the idea that winning at someone else's expense was not true victory. Though he was an acknowledged master, he began to study movement and technique even more intensely, and he eventually came to realize that true self-defense was not winning over others, but winning over the discord within oneself.

Enjoy,


Stephen []

Om Shanti

[portal]

Aphex:shut up!

[daem0n]

one thing makes me wonder, red dragon with his informative posts was erased for swearing, and portal running naked and screaming thou shall not is ok
EOL007:
maybe i trained aikido for too short (2 years), but what distinguishes it from other martial arts is using enemy's strenght against him, so it's all his expense and very small yours, winning over the discord with oneself is essential to all martial arts

for more information on Ueshiba http://www.aikido.com/founder.htm

[Eol007]

quote:Originally posted by daem0n

one thing makes me wonder, red dragon with his informative posts was erased for swearing, and portal running naked and screaming thou shall not is ok
EOL007:
maybe i trained aikido for too short (2 years), but what distinguishes it from other martial arts is using enemy's strenght against him, so it's all his expense and very small yours, winning over the discord with oneself is essential to all martial arts

for more information on Ueshiba http://www.aikido.com/founder.htm

Hi,

Glad you enjoyed Aikido and thx for the additional link.

I am not familiar with the deletion of Red Dragon's posts.

Without naming names - can I again respectfully ask that the good users here ease up please!

Kind wishes,


Stephen

[kiauma]

quote:http://www.sfu.ca/~aikido/overview.html

Great link EOL, and post.

Thanks.

[portal]

So long as you want me to move along I won't......                   So shut up BEE-AAACHES!!!!!!   Damn, you guys whine constantly, maybe if you started living in the real world for awhile you could see that you're all a bunch of flakes!