Subconscious Conversations

[kakkarot]

yeah, it's kinda like intuition. except it gives you a mental response rather than a spiritual response. although some people call it the "higher self", or a spirit guide, or any number of other things.

when i'm going to the c-train each day i'll get a sense of whether i'll be able to get to the station in time to catch it, or if i'll have to run to be able to make it in time, or if i just can't make it in time no matter how fast i run. helps me out a lot. []

~kakkarot

[Parmenion]

Yup, I have been using the 'internal alarm clock' for a while now. Its definately a subject that deserves exploration.

Parmenion

[no_leaf_clover]

thanks for the link! this board has to be the most helpful board on earth man..

[Squeek]

Thanks.  I love to help people out without knowing I'm helping at all.

So, back to my original question at hand.  Does anybody know how to "listen" to the replies at any time?  In the stories, their subconsciouses tell them things that they find odd during the course of the day.  I really want to, because when it does for them, they help others out.

Please?  Any thoughts?  Thankies.

[kakkarot]

keep monitoring your mind and wait until you start feeling like you should do something that you aren't thinking about doing. like if you are walking down a street and you get the sudden inclination to turn around, turn around and then capture (don't let it fade) and analyze the thought, in your mind.

~kakkarot

[cainam_nazier]

Okay I must say this only because I found it really funny.

So I was reading the article and all.  I got down to the "Right Now" section and started scratching my chin and then read, "..giving you a status report on a cut you have on your leg, or telling you to"scratch that itch"."  

It was funny because as soon as I read it I realized what I was doing and stopped.  I kinda took a moment to look and laugh at myslef.

[Secretseeress]

Hi, Squeek,
You may be unable to hear your replies as they are much quieter than your minds internal chatter. You may find it useful to try to still your mind for a few minutes to allow you to hear the more subtle subconscious influences. There are many different techniques to do this but basically just to be aware of what you are saying to yourself and try to pause for a moment when you come to the end of each thought, making the pause a little longer each time.
Hope this helps,
Love and Light,
Secretseeress.

[Ash]

I find if a message is important it will tend to repeat itself. So yeah, monitor your thoughts and if you get any "incongruent" thoughts or images, take a note and then let them go. If the same image keeps repeating itself, then it is probably important in some way. In my experience, though, they can be either literally true or else metaphorically true. Sometimes it talks in symbols and emotions that are a lot like dreams.
A lot of the time (at least with me, since I'm not that good at it) I will think my thoughts are about something and actually they are intuitive messages about something else.
I'll give you a couple of examples of things that have happened with me.

I was giving a Reiki treatment to a woman once, and nothing was happening. I mean usually I feel some sort of energy moving, or I get a feeling about the person, or something. But absolutely nothing was happening. I kept thinking "What am I doing wrong? There is absolutely nothing happening here. I must have screwed something up or I must not be paying attention. It's like I'm not even giving a Reiki treatment. It's like this person isn't even here" So I kept trying to concentrate harder and move more energy and the whole time I couldn't feel anything. The thoughts kept going "It's like this person's not even here. It's like she's invisible." So then, I realized this might actually be a message. I felt pretty silly, but I asked her "Do you ever feel like you're invisible?" And it turned out this was exactly how she felt her whole life. It sparked a long discussion that was very beneficial to both of us. What seemed like my own error was actually my subconscious mind telling me something very specific.

Another time, doing Reiki again, among the many thoughts in my head, I got an image of a little girl with a stuffed animal, a horse. Again I didn't pay much attention to it, but it kept coming back. The thing was, the woman I was working on had very dark hair, but the little girl in my mind was blonde. It kept coming back so eventually I asked her if she used to have a horse and she said no, so I felt stupid and I let the subject drop. I thought I was tuning in to random mental garbage. Then five minutes later she told me she suddenly remembered about her stuffed horse, that was her favorite toy, but she had totally forgotten about it for years. And her hair used to be much lighter when she was a child.

So listen, acknowledge, and have trust. Sometimes you might be wrong. Sometimes you might be right, but there will be no way to verify it, or if you're dealing with another person that person might not realize you're right. But the more faith you put in repeating subconscious messages, the more accurate they will become, I think.

[Squeek]

I think I may have heard "him" for the first time today...

I was walking home from school in the rain without a coat or an umbrella in my t-shirt  [8D]  Anyways.... I saw the storm drains had been clogged along the way, and thought I may have heard "him" tell me to fix it since nobody else would.  When I got to my street, It was so bad that the water was almost up onto the road (there is a 5 foot dirt "wall" before the road meets the drain.  I decided, even though the rain was picking up, that I would clear that drain.  I got down as close as I could and threw out the wet leaves that were blocking the water's path.  It took me a good 15 minutes, but I returned the water flow to normal.  I felt good that I had helped my community afterwards.

Just more insight from the ever-popular...

~Squeek

[kakkarot]

well, good job squeek.

but i think i'll just step in here and make a nuicanse (sp?) of myself by saying: that may not have been your subconscious. it may have been your conscience. i find that my conscience is constantly nagging me to do good things for no reason (the whole sense of "doing the right thing"), while the subconscious will "tug" me to do certain/specific things, which have nothing to do with morals.

~kakkarot

[TheSeeker]

As this is my first post, I would like to say hello, so, Hello Everyone.  I just wanted to say if you were more interested in this topic you should do some research on dowsing rods and pendulums.  I tried to do some quick research to find an example on the web, here is an ok one.  http://healing.about.com/library/uc_dowsing_0202.htm (not sure how to post links here).

I read about it in a book, but don't remember which one, sorry.

[auraseer]

Hi,
Heres my experience: In the school maths lesson on friday, we did some puzzles on some sheets. Like you have to put numbers in the circles to make the right amount on each line, only using each number once. Anyway, I was stuck on one particular, and the night before I read the article (at psipog.net). So I thought "why not?". So I thought deep into my mind "Am I doing this right?". And I had this positive feeling throughout my body. Its hard to explain. So I looked at a cricle where I wanted a number for, and asked "What is this one?". Then I had a very quick vision of the number '4'. So I put it down. I did this for every single one and I got it right.

I havent tried the sub-clock yet, but ill try it tonight.

Cya,
James.

[quant]

Nice work auraseeers.
Mine is useless, i get absolutely when i try to talk to my subconscious, infact, sometimes i notice my conscious mind answering my questions just by making it up.

Any suggestions?

[Squeek]

I noticed this too.  It's very very hard to shut your mind up, but I can do that step...the hard part is "hearing" the reply.

Here's what I did once.  While my eyes were shut, I looked up.  That's like, it.  Somehow it stopped alot of thoughts from interfering...  Hopefully this will work for you.

And about the sub-clock dealie, it worked again for me.  It also worked when I asked "him" when my parents yould come to wake me up (I like to just lie in bed after I wake up).  "he" told me 10:30, so I waited till 10:30.  At 10:29, my mom comes in and tells me to get ready for my basketball game  (which we won...Championship game too!)

Hope it works for you all

~Squeek

[panabelle]

<hums tune from Smash Mouth's "I'm a Believer">

Whoa. This is cool.

I just read the article ten minutes ago, was fascinated by it, printed it, then went about my business. I got up to get a snack, thinking about this and trying it out a little (no results). I sat back at the computer and browsed for about five minutes. I was playing a song while I browsed, and all of a sudden I think out of the blue, "Was that the phone?" (We have a phone by our computer, but the ringer is broken so I hear it from the kitchen.) Anyway, I pause the song and listen for a minute. No ringing. I unpause the song and continue fooling around on the computer. After about ten seconds, I think, "OK, I'm sure that was the phone." I turn off the song and pick up the phone, only to hear the dial tone. I shrug, and go back to what I was doing. I kept feeling like I should get the phone even though it wasn't ringing.

Fifteen seconds later the phone rang. [:O]

What do you think? Beginnings of listening to subconscious, or coincidence? Just curious...I thought it was cool. []

[kakkarot]

"Beginnings of listening to subconscious". wow, i think it's amazing that you are both doing so well so quickly. congradulations for you.

just to relate another "story", i sometimes will be standing on a street corner waiting for the street lights to change from red to green, but i'll have my eyes closed. i'll even be completely lost in thought, and yet i still look up directly at the light everytime that it changes from red to green. before the cars start moving. even if there are no cars there (ie, no way of me to subconsciously hear the vehicles that are going the other way stop and just realize that i should be going now.) useful, since i walk a lot.

~kakkarot

[Squeek]

I walk .... rarely.  I also have no idea how I could apply this to when I was actually DOING something.

I really wish I could apply anything I do at my nighttime sessions to real life situatations.  Really.  Alot.

PS : Kakkarot man, you almost have 1,000 posts.  Are you trying to catch up with Tom?

[kakkarot]

"PS : Kakkarot man, you almost have 1,000 posts. Are you trying to catch up with Tom?" oh my god, i DO! i never realized. thanks for pointing that out.

cool, i could be the next ... erm... what rank was it again? admiral? no. i don't remember.

but anyway. "I really wish I could apply anything I do at my nighttime sessions to real life situatations." well then, train in real life situations. don't let your training become just an aspect of your life that is distinct from your day-to-day life. make your day-to-day life part of your training. that's what i used to do, and what i'll do again.

~kakkarot

[Squeek]

Ok...


How?

[panabelle]

Well, whenever I hurt myself (like last night when I nearly gave myself a concussion with a bag of unpopped popcorn - don't ask[]) I just put my hands on my head, fiddled around with my energy for a minute, and I walked away without a splitting headache. [|)] Useful...

[Thegreensaber]

yo squeek i read all that page and i am trying it its an interesting consept after that i read the other thigs then OBEs and found my self getting ebooks  of obe i hate to read books

[Squeek]

I still can't hear Mr. Sub in my daily life.  I know it won't be like the guy in the second story, but I'd expect it to be like once in a while, more than like never.

[kakkarot]

like when you're walking along, move energy to your legs and see if there's a difference in how far you can walk depending on how you make the energy feel.

or when you're sitting in class listening to your teacher (pfft, yeah right []) try to move your energy onto the teacher and see if you can focus more completely on them than you've ever done before.

or like panabelle said, use it to cure even small wounds.

as you talk to your friends in the hall, subtlely start fiddling with their energy and see if they do anything (the subtlety is for your benefit, so they don't see you doing "weird" stuff and make fun of you for it). some fun things to do might be: getting them to substitute wrong words into their sentences, like saying cow instead of hallway, or something like that; seeing if you can make them look in a direction by merely willing them to do so; see if you can get their bladders to "malfunction" (though, of course, you wouldn't want to use this one on a good friend. lol); etc.

every time you run, use your energy to make yourself faster. every time you jump, use your energy to make yourself jump higher. every time you walk through the hallway, see if you can pick out the paths that other students 'intend' to take and then weave through them.

energy can be used in everything. it's really just a matter of doing it. []

~kakkarot

[auraseer]

Hi,
Kakkarot's post summed it all up.

I just had another subconcious convo. But it wasnt intentional. I was having my breakfast, and I heard a 'voice' say "hello". All of my friends say "hi", so it couldnt of been them round the back fence. It wasnt my family, because they denied it. It was a voice I had never heard of before.

Cya,
James.

[panabelle]

Kakkarot, you make it sound so easy. Do you actually get tangible results with this stuff? Because whenever I do energy I never seem to know if I'm really doing it or if it's all in my head. Nothing that more practice can't fix, I suppose. But that doesn't make it feel any less like I'm running into a brick wall over and over again with everything except auric sight.

That reminds me, I had a question. Whoops, I forgot it. Gimme a minute and I'll remember. I hope. Hmmmm...jeez I hate it when this happens...it's like I have teen's Alzheimers or something...ugh...

OH YEAH I remember now!!! (Phew.) I was fiddling around with energy aura stuff in class (social studies again), kinda switching randomly back and forth between auric sight and gathering energy to be specific. ANYHOO, I was trying to see the aura of my teacher when I noticed that the back of my brain felt like it was working really hard. I recalled that in several of my (very cool) dreams where I have telekinesis or anything like that, I got the exact same feeling. It's like a tug or something at the back of my head. So I very quickly switched to telekinesis with my pen cap and I swear it almost moved because I was just focusing so hard on it and I could feel it wanting to move and all the sheer will power surrounding it. I think I could have moved something lighter, but the feeling faded before I realized that. Anyone experience anything similar or know what the heck it was/is?