Telekinesis

[theotherside]

Ever since I was a child I've been absolutely fascinated by the idea of telekinesis.  Sadly, despite my efforts over the years I have never been able to move physical objects using my mind.

Has anyone here ever deliberately tried developing this ability?  And if so, were you successful?

[Chris_com28]

I acheived some success with a psi wheel. I've never been that good though. I've made a few posts about this before. Just search for posts by me with psi wheel and Egely Wheel. I got to the point where I could stop it at will and make it spin the other way.
If you really want to do this I suggest you try pranayama and chakra work. Try Robet Bruce's New Energy Ways and work a lot on the hand chakras. EFT is also supposed to help you reprogram your mind.

[ash_ketchum]

accidentally posted in wrong thread, sorry

[cavernstoy]

PSI wheels can be spun by the heat from your hands

http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Psi%20wheel%20video.html

So make sure you use a bowl, like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ

I wish I had telekinesis.

Cavernstoy

[AndrewTheSinger]

So make sure you use a bowl, like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5NwRfMJgOQ

I wish I had telekinesis.

Cavernstoy

You know this video is a hoax, right? The guy who made it admitted he faked the effect using air tubes connected to the non-visible front legs of the desk. Check out the link he provided to the unexplained mysteries website.

[cavernstoy]

Is it actually possible to do it for real?

Cavernstoy

[AndrewTheSinger]

Well, the telekinetic force possibly exists, it has been reported and studied, but whether it can be consciously controlled or not is up to debate.

[JayQC]

From my experience, it does exist and it is possible to consciously control it. I have been able at least one time to make a piece of tin foil balanced on a needle go in the direction I wanted, alternating left and right without putting my hand anywhere near it. I have also had a lot of other successful experiences with psychokinesis and the psiwheel, like having it rotate two turns right after I carefully put a glass over it.

So in my opinion, it definitely exists and everyone has the possibility to learn it. Of course that's just a small part of my experiences but maybe amongst the most interesting!

[DiViNE]

It does exist my friend, and YOU can do it. Just believe, trust, expect... the faster you believe in it, the faster you'll see results.

No video, real or fake, is going to prove it to you.

TIP: Do not place your hands anywhere near the object. Really, it will just cause doubts later down the road if you do this. [ie. you make it spin, then start thinking "oh wait it was the heat of my hands maybe"]


Also, you have to keep at it every day... try not to burn out and get headaches, but give significant effort. Try to make it fun (I know, its hard to make staring at a psiwheel\object a "fun thing to do"). I also learned unfortunately, this is very true about tk: Use it or lose it.

I used to be able to do it, spin both ways, really fast, or slow, slow down and change direction almost instantly... even got my ex-roomie to do it (after he saw me I guess it was fairly easy), and we'd play a game where I spin one way, he spins the other, and we see who would win Tug-of-war basically.

This was well over a year ago, closer to 2 years... I have tried a few times recently and can't really move it... I got it to nudge but hey, I havent tried more than a couple times for a few minutes, or been spiritually inclined over this 'rest' period so I'm not surprised.


I truly believe anything and everything is possible, with enough focus + practice + belief... even flying.


Peace,
DiViNE


P.S. - Spoon bending is real too... I think you'll might get faster results with that. Just channel energy into a spoon (really, you have to focus and clear your mind for this whole duration) and have the INTENT of it melting\heating up\particles moving faster, then just BREAK YOUR ATTENTION hard to explain, and bend it into many wraps (if it feels like bending it normally, then it didnt quite work lol... it should feel far softer and you should loop it around at least a few times fairly easily.)

This funky lady shows you (like I said, ppl will say video is fake, I really dont know or care, I know it works from experience):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSfJjdnqfOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-e_45BIbsg

[FadeEsdrasX]

This inspires me to continue developing

[Sharpe]

No, don't do it, don't waste your time.
It takes too long to explain why it CAN NOT - NEVER - EVER - EVER exist, but take my word for it.

[morning_star]

It is actually a skill worth developing. not merely because of the physical results you will see, but because of the spiritual transformation you must go through to acheive it. its not just a skill, its part of a bigger path. i wouldnt focus on it, but i would pursue it. BTW, it does exist and has been well documented for over 20-30 years by well respected scientists. as to control, that comes with communication between subconscious and conscious mind. you have to be able to control yourself. EVERY part of yourself. meditation is good for it. but its a long way away to looking at a rock and making it levitate. and no, there are no children born with a "gift" for it who can levitate large objects. you can have an aptitude for it, but you will most likely not be able to control it unless unaware of the telekinetic force behind your desire. a good example is when my grandmother shielded herself from a heavy pan that was going to fall on her. she threw it to the end of the isle in the store before it hit her head after falling off the top shelf. to some degree, she had control over the object, but she was unaware that she had control over it. its because it did what she wanted, but she did not KNOW it would do what she wanted. the stress probably helped her do it too. and its very hard to replicate results like that because we dont fully understand telekinesis and we dont have a constant link between our minds that allows us to do some things over and over again.

[Sharpe]

Don't listen to him, don't waste your time!!!
You only got 60 years!!!
Don't waste it!

[morning_star]

I would strongly advise you be cautious of anyone who refers to spiritual growth as a waste of time. It is ultimately your job to grow, as you are still a child. However, there are those who would hinder this.

[Awakened_Mind]

I think people only pursue telekinetic ability because they think 'It'd be cool to be able to do'. From that perspective I'd have to agree with Sharpe. The spoken word is at present the greatest strength of mind available to any of us. It can cause political movements and massive social transformations. Don't waste your time focussing your attention on moving a cork in water for 5 years when you can focus on moving the whole world with your voice instead.

I won't say telekinesis is impossible because I simply don't know, but it does seem like a waste of time. How many telekinetics can anyone show me in real life in action? You just don't see it.

-AM

[morning_star]

The reason is because the possibility of telekinesis opens a whole new venue of thought. Need I not remind you it has been studied and proven, so its existence is not up for discussion. Twenty years of hard data will show this. The purpose of pursuing telekinesis, although seemingly trivial to those who are ignorant of its mechanisms, is to expand your mind. If you study the right way, it can help you in other ways as well. It is because there is something you have to do to be a successfully strong telekinetic. I'm not going to tell you what that is. It's best to find out on your own. However, the rewards are great. And yes, you have a lot of time. I can't imagine how practicing for 15 minutes a day could possibly take up your time. A word of advice, no one has the answer to telekinesis and is going to sell it to you. You'll find it within yourself, not in a book that cost $99.99 at Border's.

[Awakened_Mind]

Need I not remind you it has been studied and proven, so its existence is not up for discussion. Twenty years of hard data will show this.

What data? I'll need a credible link or book reference.

The purpose of pursuing telekinesis, although seemingly trivial to those who are ignorant of its mechanisms, is to expand your mind.

The purpose of telekinesis should be to move objects with your mind.

I can't imagine how practicing for 15 minutes a day could possibly take up your time.

Say we live about 70 years and we start practicing at around 20. That's about 190 days straight of practice. Takes a bit of time I'd say.

I'm not going to tell you what that is. It's best to find out on your own.  A word of advice, no one has the answer to telekinesis and is going to sell it to you. You'll find it within yourself, not in a book that cost $99.99 at Border's.

Well your not going to be listened to if you don't substantiate the claim with evidence or some sought or theory of its mechanics. Just saying 'I know' and everyone else is ignorant won't get you far. People aren't rushing to what seems like a wild goose chase.

-AM

[Stookie]

I don't negate the fact that telekinesis might be possible by some kind of supreme master of something or other who can't show the world for some moral reason I don't totally get...

...but amateur telekinesis tends to show NO results. I read about claims of results all the time, but for some reason, no one can do it live or produce a believable video. If it was easily possible and scientifically observable, why is there no hard evidence?

[Sharpe]

The reason is because the possibility of telekinesis opens a whole new venue of thought. Need I not remind you it has been studied and proven, so its existence is not up for discussion. Twenty years of hard data will show this. The purpose of pursuing telekinesis, although seemingly trivial to those who are ignorant of its mechanisms, is to expand your mind. If you study the right way, it can help you in other ways as well. It is because there is something you have to do to be a successfully strong telekinetic. I'm not going to tell you what that is. It's best to find out on your own. However, the rewards are great. And yes, you have a lot of time. I can't imagine how practicing for 15 minutes a day could possibly take up your time. A word of advice, no one has the answer to telekinesis and is going to sell it to you. You'll find it within yourself, not in a book that cost $99.99 at Border's.

What AM said:"where's the data"?

[Sharpe]

I think people only pursue telekinetic ability because they think 'It'd be cool to be able to do'. From that perspective I'd have to agree with Sharpe. The spoken word is at present the greatest strength of mind available to any of us. It can cause political movements and massive social transformations. Don't waste your time focussing your attention on moving a cork in water for 5 years when you can focus on moving the whole world with your voice instead.

I won't say telekinesis is impossible because I simply don't know, but it does seem like a waste of time. How many telekinetics can anyone show me in real life in action? You just don't see it.

-AM

"It'd be cool to be able to do"
Well, just think about christianity, someone who has a high status in this world has a low status in the afterlife.
This is a philosophy they live by.
Espescially poor people, to lift the stress of being a part of the lowest part of the pyramid, they think of the afterlife.
And it's presented to them as some sort of a relief, poor people go to heaven and get a high status instantly.
At least, that's what I have interpreted in the bible (sorry if I misinterpreted stories).
It's fascinating how well this works if you look back in history.

Anyways, people do this all the time, espescially little kids (I used to do it aswell), they imagine that they have incredible powers and rule the world.
That's probably why people that "practice" telekenisis are 12 to 16 years old.
Probably has something to do with their brains not being fully developed, so info received is more vivid than an adult.

So the pattern is: They might have a low status now, but "somewhere" or "secretly" they have this immense status, higher than anyone ever existed.
Watch some cartoons, you might notice this often, very often. (Dragonball Z)
It's always about being more "powerfull". (In adults I believe this is the same, but indirectly)

So these believers in telekenisis, have the same idea in mind.
It's not about "expanding" anything.
Expanding the mind is what smart people do, learning about everything.
Learning about your own behaviour as a human being is the best thing to do before anything, I think.

If you know how your behaviour works, you will not make any stupid mistakes, like wasting loads of time on something, just so you can get the prestige you want.

Why don't you just become a rocket scientist or a cardiologist, you get more status than you can imagine AND you officially have the stereotype (rocketscientist) as the smartest guy in town.
And beside that, you will expand your mind tremendously!

[morning_star]

Wow.  I had no idea how far ahead of you all I was. Although, I have to say I am not talking about easily taught telekinesis that occurs among teenagers with youtube accounts. Telekinesis is far from easy, and most teenagers lack the focus and intelligence it takes to learn the skill.

Here's the link where you can find all the reports and data results from thirty years of experimentation.
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/index.html

I was not aware I had to prove this to a community that shares information on the subject.  I think I now realize that you all have a very primitive understanding of what telekinesis actually is.  The purpose is not to move objects with your mind.  That is just the physical result of what you are doing.  As to how much time it takes to practice it, most people spend a lot more time watching television.  Nothing can be lost from training your mind to focus and control itself. 

Now to address the those who beleive I am wasting my time.  Prestige is all well and good, but it is not all that you think it is.  In fact, it is probably a lot less.  I am not advocating learning something to gain a feeling of importance.  I am not advocating the desire to impress people.  I am saying that actual telekinesis is worth the time to study. 

I am sorry you refuse to step away from your illogical stereotypes, vague accusations, your inability to believe that your eyes do not consume all the knowledge in the universe, and your inherent desire to argue incessantly over every microscopic detail that challenges your view of the world.  Sadly, it is not uncommon for me to come across people who refuse to grow and let go of their misconceptions. 

The only reason I am giving you the information that I have is to prod you into further study.  It is not because I am trying to indoctrinate the world into wasting their time and pursue a fantasy that will make them feel good about themselves.  I don't need to do that.  I am merely a student and I am saying to you that my studies have value.  It is wise to make some attempt to understand everything I have said. Gems have many facets.

[Awakened_Mind]

"I am sorry you refuse to step away from your illogical stereotypes, vague accusations, your inability to believe that your eyes do not consume all the knowledge in the universe, and your inherent desire to argue incessantly over every microscopic detail that challenges your view of the world.  Sadly, it is not uncommon for me to come across people who refuse to grow and let go of their misconceptions"

Without skepticism we are lost in a sea of strident claims, most of which are proporsterous and certainly not all of which can be true. You can't expect to try and teach anyone a truth without encountering skepticism, that's just unrealistic.

These forums to a lot of us are a source of information where we can discuss certain topics. I am really here to have my ideas challenged and refined so that they be more thorough. Don't see any skepticism coming your way as a personal attack, if you have information you think is important then let us know. Did you become a member to participate or not?

Now if we are discussing telekinetics as the general idea (such as picking up a pen with your mind), then you'll need more than that website which really said nothing on the topic. If you are talking about telekinesis as mind interacting with matter with respect to quantum physics and the human mind creating reality then I think you need to verify that. I've read about the PEAR study in a book which I think when I have the time I'll have to re-read. Are you referring to the study where subjects opened the machine and then were asked to focus on internal gadgets to effect the output of numbers or just simply focussing on random number generators to produce outputs of more 1's than 0's?

All we are getting from you is "I am smarter than you". Enlighten me.

-AM

[morning_star]

I am not seeing it as a personal attack.  That is merely something you see, most likely, because you are doing it.  In the end, truth resonates differently within us.  You will know what it is.

The pear study is mostly centered around the human/machine experiments whose results clearly stated that the mind could immediately affect matter with no physical connection.  This is the basis of telekinesis.  Also look into Alain Aspect and his particle experiment.  That should provoke some independent thought.  I am not going to tell you everything.  If I just gave you the answer, it would not affect you as much as if you discovered it for yourself.  It is not simple, and it is not alone. 

You are here because you want the simple answer.  I am here because i sought the simple answer and found something much more complex and enlightening and I had to share it with you.  I can show you the way, but you have to walk the path.

[Awakened_Mind]

The problem with the machine experiment is we still cannot see what's going on inside. Other studies have shown that an outcome can be effected without focussing on any internal componetns of the machine. So it raises question to whether the component is effected itself or simply the thought of effecting the outcome. Subjects are told to focus on one thing, but the subjectivity of the experiments limits its explanatory success.

If the particle experiment you are referring to is two twin particles who when separated by indefinite distances, will respond exactly the same way when only one is effected. Implying there is some form of communication link between the two.

I think the problem here you are not specifying what you're talking about when you mention telekinesis. Most people associate it with moving objects with the mind. You're definition appears to be different. Not the typical idea where Yoda lifts a space craft out of water. You need to clarify what you mean by 'telekinesis'. Once we understand this then perhaps independent enquiry will ascertain some truth. At the moment it seems you've put a lot of things I separate from telekinetics into its box.

-AM

[Sharpe]

Did that site you gave us actually mentioned telekenesis?
All I read was about consciousness and reality.
Thank you for wasting my time pal.

And before I walk the path, I just need you to not talk the talk but walk the walk yourself, so you can actually prove it exists.

Yes you need to prove something before you can talk about these things as reality IMO.

If you can't prove anything, you musn't open your mouth, you must practise.