War of the souls

[Kerrblur]

Adam,

   I am really glad I have turned your thoughts around, I can feel your thoughts are heading towards the right direction.  Listen to the words you said right, and you can tell that by just that little amount of sh*t that you said, means your guides are helping you consdier other things.

  Trust me when I say okay, that once you start researching the other aspects of coming events, You will feel more comfortable with it, you wont fear it, and you will lol start to understand my side of things when I talk about great changes that are going to happen to us; Not this manipulating information to 'sway' you from the good.

 Follow your intution on this, it may take a couple of months but it will come to you.  With me, I would read some information about something, and not hear/read anything else for along time, then I stumbled upon //www.zetatalk.com.  After this, it naturally just came to me, lol almost like a paper that said, 'life's answers' just landed on my hand.

 Just ask your guides for the answers
they will hear it, and will send it to you at the proper times.

[Aileron]

(stares blankly)

uh....

so kerrblur, what your saying is we need to think 3 dimensionally about what we are defending?
How? And what are we defending?

You tell us

"So you think spreading the news about a demon war is going to help towards the process of the awakening? Then following the transformation shift to the other density? people who think this excrement, dont think about love, peace, faith, god. Specially God, if you do, he dont want you too, unles you drop this horrifick idea, cause your TALKING about a demon war for God's sake."

why are you telling anyone this? What this says is that if people who think these ideas are also thinking about god, then god does not want them to think about god.
why not?


"Now, I do not want you guys telling me that, 'i am trying to say Im right', My argument with this, is the fact of people 'choosing' to believe such a terrible event."

people will decide what ever they choose to believe whether you have any factor in it or not, but the way you are wording yourself is really confusing.
Are you saying that you are arguing that people would actually believe in such an event, even while you tell us at the same time, that many people will die in a war or something that kills a vast majority of humanity?

"okay, im talking bull crap right now, I'm hung over, and i feel like a hammer is pounding my head, but Im not talking crap about something i dont know about, I read quite alot about this topic, and I also say, and constantly preach if you would spend the time to get to know me first before accusing me, I always preach how noone needs to prove themselves right."


So your talking bullcrap, but your not talking about bullcrap that you know about because you read alot about this topic?
What topic?
You have had no substance in anything, relating to any relevant issues except "thinking 3 dimensionally."
What have you read, and what makes you think that because of things you read, you know all there is to know about what ever it is you are talking about?

YOu want knowledge? Get off the net and live your life.



Let me tell you how I feel, because I dont know if I have ever made that clear enough in these forums.

I do believe something is going to happen. Strongly, soulfully and deeply do I believe this.
I believe it so much in fact that I associate every little aspect of my life to this issue.
I do not have a religion, because they are all false. All.
When I say this though, do not mistake that as a statment of heresy or disbelief in god, rather mans follied judgement to institute what he believe gods will is upon the rest of society. This is why wars happen.
I do have spirit, I have strength of passion, and the conviction to put faith in myself before a god though, because if god as a being exists, I must love myself before I can even begin to attempt love for something I know nothing of.
If god is the being of existence, the total, the all and amaranthine, then knowing and believing in myself before anything else, would be putting God there as well wouldnt it?

What ever does happen though, as much as I want to learn about it, and tell others what I feel is going to happen, I refuse to tell people what I think, not only on the basis that the majority of what each individual believes differs so greatly that not all of us can be right, but because they are and should be my personal motivation.

You want to talk about people not knowing peace and love and god, when in reality it sounds like you are just as confused, and scared as the rest of us.
We learn from ourselves, and from those around us and every little insignifant little details of our lives.
If you believe you can learn all you need about the future from books or the internet, you are mistaken.





if there is divine presence, I truly believe then that there is no need to force ourselves upon one another physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually.
The will of one, is the will of all, just let it go and relax.

[Adam]

So tell me more about these guides of yours...

And what do you think of Nancy from zetatalk?

[Kerrblur]

Believing in this war helps the process of the awakening? what are you talking about Aileron.  Okay, believing a war with f*cking demons period is something out of this world, LOL wait i shouldnt be saying that lol.  Its UNHEARD OF.

read about creative energies, if ANYTHING AT ALL, you Aileron would be one of the many other groupies that warship demons cause your all up on there nuts all the time, telling people how there going to rise and kill us.

And I never said people werent going to die in the coming years, I was saying people who 'cannot' except the change will die.  There (in my oppion) will be two different kinds of people dieing.
One - Man who fights, fears, Kills, Hates, refuses change . . .

One example would be this, when this excrement happens, LETS says this theory RIGHT here, this thread, this demon s**t, gets spread ALL alround the world, and so theres a bunch of NAZI-like groupies running around the world creating havok when they see these 'races' from higher densities, like you for example cause you like to hate, you like to defend something that shouldnt be here, its the demon inside you for example.  someone else can keep explaining this.

two - Now, these are the people who may know about the change or may not, but when this change starts to hit our heads, The worlds going to have one big giant HeadAche!!!  There will be lots of people that die just from the earthchanges, like the poleshift , then these people who cannot handle the shifts that are happening in there minds, and some will die there. and dont forget people dieing cause of the Nazi-going Devil Prancers that love to do anything but what is right.  With these people dying, and
(I believe you dont have to mr. Aileron)
Depending on there current actions on that life, and if they were caring for other people, or more like a person who thinks for themselves.  If they were good hearted, they were persumed to reincarnate on the new born earth, to help start the new human race

The others, the ones like you(just a example!) who talked and defneded this war, and the demon inside you, got you soo worked up, you tried fighting what was right, therefore, when you all are gone, you reincarnation is placed at a different location other than earth in my beliefs.

Adam, Nancy is a Very Very intelligent person.

[wantsumrice]

Essentially, what we're all saying is bullcrap to each other.  It's all relative.  You have your own beliefs and blah blah blah...

Honestly, what you read in zetatalk, don't believe it all fully.  Always keep a skeptical mind.

~ivan

[Kerrblur]

You are right, I do still think for myself.  There are some things on zetatalk, that are could have questions to them, but its the percentage of what I believe that gets me

[BlackBox]

Plenty of thoughts going around.

My take is that 'war' symbolizes itself through many levels of reality.

War is a form of chaos, and chaos is needed for order. Winter must occur for Spring to arrive. Macrocosmically, this occurs in various levels. The way it sounds from a few here is that this war will be 'physical' yet where it truly counts is in our transmitted frequencies, our individual vibrations.

Millions of light-workers are here. Some are observers and some are here to meddle with designated and reinforced time-locks placed on sets of primary-events. This is how time is established. Some light-workers are here to awaken for certain ambitious assignments that collectively change the upcoming set-of-events. That's my take anywho.

If you listen to channeled material, they speak of 36 million Nephalim (David and Goliath) arriving around the same time of the transition (2012), so in that sense, perhaps that's the physical-war The Founder is speaking of. I'm more interested in setting my vibration in-tune to awaken vital information stored within my cells. The holes in the ozone-layer are allowing light-rays to enter the earth and breach some of the controlling frequencies (like the moon) from keeping us asleep. People will transitionally awaken with strengthened abilities as their 'junk' DNA realigns itself to the 12-DNA strand structure.

Hmmph, there's so much to talk about in this subject that I can't help but ramble. Sorry! [xx(]

[Adam]

Hmm, no don't cut yourself down BlackBox. Yours is the most interesting post I've read in this thread. Please, carry on. Share your views with us []

[BlackBox]

Well this is the thing.

The world as it is NOW, has a way of showing objective-observers which way truly is the path of truth, and which is filled with crumbs of truth engulfed with propaganda and lies, for the purpose of control via distraction. Imagine a fire which represents truth and massive logs that are put ontop of it, sufficating the fire in order to produce MAXIMUM levels of smoke. The smoke symbolizes our media including politics and mostly the entertainment industry. In short, smoke = distraction. The word that serves it best is the german-word, "kitsch". An example of kitsch in the 20th century would be millions of reproductions of brilliant pieces of art, like the Mona Lisa. This is to allow every average person to be able to have a great piece of art in their home, so that they feel THEY are in CONTROL, whereas it is just a form of distraction through the art of diverting the ego, which is our most blinding characteristic.

So...if you look at everything that is promoted such as monotheistic religions, CNN, tycoon celebrities, much of it is just a form of control through subtle or blunt approaches.

The sad thing about this is in a world such like this, the only forces that stand up to it are basically metaphysical, 'new-age', or validated channels like the Cassiopaeans, Ra, Q'uo, and Pleidians. They are heavily discredited, and there's the key word, "discredit". So in a world such like this, what is discredited by the majority, should be heavily focused on by the objective-observer. Why is it discredited? What are they saying about it? Are they attacking the source, the material, or the people bringing it up? (abusive ad hominem)

I'm not saying you look into channelings WITHOUT a skeptical mind, but that these specific ones are HEAVILY discredited, which to me is like the powers-that-be pointing a big red-flag for all those who want to know who's making actual progress with truth-seeking.

From all of my readings that I persistently cross and lateral reference with other materials and my intuition, this planet had an original purpose that is currently manipulated. Not just that, but the planet is in 'quarantine' from the majority of the outer-universe. This is why we are so harshly engulfed in 'reality'...where we don't believe in magic, we don't believe in dragons, we don't believe in the past. Myths are discredited as folk-tales, yet where is the root of the myth? History transitions into legend and legend transitions into myth in under 400 years (or so). That's all it takes for truth to be distorted into a fable.

And then there's 'disjecta membra' which basically means when a multi-dimensional catacylsm occurs:

1.) Macrocosmic cataclysm - Comets, etc.
2.) Microcosmic catacylsm - civil wars, world-wars, mass annihilation

Then the survivors are scattered for many years before they can even ATTEMPT to restructure what was destroyed. This would naturally take a huge turn in progression and after a few thousand years, society would have forgotten their past and labeled it 'myth'. T.V.'s would be called 'shining-light-projecters' and etc...things would be definately confusing for a child of the new millenia to ever be informed of what their past truly was.

So I believe there have been many many past civilizations. The cycle of winter (cataclysm) occurs with dawning a new spring (beginning of a new cycle).

In reference to channeled transcripts, the Atlanteans, 13,000 years ago, were on the earth with the Ramans and the Osirians (I guess the major nations equivalent to the U.S., Russia, britain, etc) in which the population was approximately 6-billion. That is the time when the multi-dimensional catacylsms ocured. The survivors of the Atlanteans created the pyramids (designed for weather-control), and the descendants (Egyptians) once again forgot everything factual and replaced it with what the powers-that-be felt comfortable spreading thinly to their children, until thousands of years later in the year 2004, the majority of the planet is consumed with so much distraction, so much kitsch, that IF a person came and told us the truth via mass-communication, he would be mauled, mocked, laughed at, and probably either discredited to a mental-asylum, executed, or he would vanish! If one day a guy comes and tell us the world is not flat, but round, what side would you pick if all you ever knew was just put into a trash-bin?

There's some of my thoughts...hehe []

[Kerrblur]

hah your a genius, I love your thoughts, I want you to go deeper in your thoguhts, ill bring questions to you.   you answer them with your 'thoughts'. nice to meet you.

[Aileron]

kerrblur, the problem I have, is that I cant understand what you are talking about. I have read through your posts, and they are chaotically derived from different methods of thought. They seemed minced to me. Your structure is hard to follow.
You are also quite an assuming person.
I was never talking about demons having anything to do with a war, not once until you had mentioned meteors symbolizing demons on a football field?

Im a groupie?
Of what?
You think me full of rage? Of hate, yet you know nothing of me, or the things I do in my life.

The ones like me who talked and defended the war and the demons inside me?
When did I defend any war or demon?
I dont honestly believe in demons to tell you the truth, at least not in any biblical sense.
I believe the demons are ignorance, mistrust and hate none of which I will pressume to attach to your personality as I have no idea who you are.

All I wanted was clarification of what you were talking about, and you never answered any of my questions. Only trying to prove once again that which confused me in the first place. Since I dont think you will in a manner I can understand, forget it.

Let me be direct, Blackbox, although presenting the ideas and opinions and knowledge they have, a majority of which I agree with, and some I dont, gave their thoughts in a way I could understand. That allows me to research into what they are saying and make my own decision based on what I have found and read on my own.

[BlackBox]

quote:Let me be direct, Blackbox, although presenting the ideas and opinions and knowledge they have, a majority of which I agree with, and some I dont, gave their thoughts in a way I could understand. That allows me to research into what they are saying and make my own decision based on what I have found and read on my own.

Go for it, Tiger!

[Adam]

quote:Originally posted by BlackBox

Well this is the thing.

The world as it is NOW, has a way of showing objective-observers which way truly is the path of truth, and which is filled with crumbs of truth engulfed with propaganda and lies, for the purpose of control via distraction. Imagine a fire which represents truth and massive logs that are put ontop of it, sufficating the fire in order to produce MAXIMUM levels of smoke. The smoke symbolizes our media including politics and mostly the entertainment industry. In short, smoke = distraction. The word that serves it best is the german-word, "kitsch". An example of kitsch in the 20th century would be millions of reproductions of brilliant pieces of art, like the Mona Lisa. This is to allow every average person to be able to have a great piece of art in their home, so that they feel THEY are in CONTROL, whereas it is just a form of distraction through the art of diverting the ego, which is our most blinding characteristic.

So...if you look at everything that is promoted such as monotheistic religions, CNN, tycoon celebrities, much of it is just a form of control through subtle or blunt approaches.

The sad thing about this is in a world such like this, the only forces that stand up to it are basically metaphysical, 'new-age', or validated channels like the Cassiopaeans, Ra, Q'uo, and Pleidians. They are heavily discredited, and there's the key word, "discredit". So in a world such like this, what is discredited by the majority, should be heavily focused on by the objective-observer. Why is it discredited? What are they saying about it? Are they attacking the source, the material, or the people bringing it up? (abusive ad hominem)

I'm not saying you look into channelings WITHOUT a skeptical mind, but that these specific ones are HEAVILY discredited, which to me is like the powers-that-be pointing a big red-flag for all those who want to know who's making actual progress with truth-seeking.

From all of my readings that I persistently cross and lateral reference with other materials and my intuition, this planet had an original purpose that is currently manipulated. Not just that, but the planet is in 'quarantine' from the majority of the outer-universe. This is why we are so harshly engulfed in 'reality'...where we don't believe in magic, we don't believe in dragons, we don't believe in the past. Myths are discredited as folk-tales, yet where is the root of the myth? History transitions into legend and legend transitions into myth in under 400 years (or so). That's all it takes for truth to be distorted into a fable.

And then there's 'disjecta membra' which basically means when a multi-dimensional catacylsm occurs:

1.) Macrocosmic cataclysm - Comets, etc.
2.) Microcosmic catacylsm - civil wars, world-wars, mass annihilation

Then the survivors are scattered for many years before they can even ATTEMPT to restructure what was destroyed. This would naturally take a huge turn in progression and after a few thousand years, society would have forgotten their past and labeled it 'myth'. T.V.'s would be called 'shining-light-projecters' and etc...things would be definately confusing for a child of the new millenia to ever be informed of what their past truly was.

So I believe there have been many many past civilizations. The cycle of winter (cataclysm) occurs with dawning a new spring (beginning of a new cycle).

In reference to channeled transcripts, the Atlanteans, 13,000 years ago, were on the earth with the Ramans and the Osirians (I guess the major nations equivalent to the U.S., Russia, britain, etc) in which the population was approximately 6-billion. That is the time when the multi-dimensional catacylsms ocured. The survivors of the Atlanteans created the pyramids (designed for weather-control), and the descendants (Egyptians) once again forgot everything factual and replaced it with what the powers-that-be felt comfortable spreading thinly to their children, until thousands of years later in the year 2004, the majority of the planet is consumed with so much distraction, so much kitsch, that IF a person came and told us the truth via mass-communication, he would be mauled, mocked, laughed at, and probably either discredited to a mental-asylum, executed, or he would vanish! If one day a guy comes and tell us the world is not flat, but round, what side would you pick if all you ever knew was just put into a trash-bin?

There's some of my thoughts...hehe []

Quite delicious.

[BlackBox]

You guys are more supportive than ANY forum I have ever gone to.

I'm spending my time reading SD's mediation with Michael, which is taking long periods of my time. There's a certain filtration being done on the sessions, so I'm setting up questions, etc, to place for him.

I'm glad you guys find my thoughts interesting, but I'm as unoriginal as it gets. I simply go around and learn from the intersections. Intuition plus patience plus effort.

[PuffAddr]

I have enjoyed all the posts on this line.

This line is also suffering from the same thing that afflicts every line
started in this forum...mainly self-thought.

Huh?  All of us have a human brain, sorry!  That means we all look thru
"filters" to process our information.  These filters come from many things,
our religous beliefs, our upbringing, our subconscious programming (note
the word subconscious) from baby/childhood AND also from growing up and
early adulthood (peer pressure, society, family, the media, your job,
whatever fits).

And to those of you who want PROOF I tell you -- YOU ARE IN THE WRONG
FORUM!  Here we ALL come to learn from each other, each one offers a piece
of food to the very watery stew, slowly, surely, it becomes savory after
many additions and is then very nourishing for all.  No one is forced to
eat!

So here we are, all wanting something similar.  To provide help, to look
for help, something that will help us understand and progress in SOME
manner (again, our personal interpretation of progress here).

The result?  Each one of us sees from different viewpoints.  Even the
aliens see from different viewpoints because of their filters (maybe even
lack of, who knows?), that is obvious.  We are all different.  In our own
way, we are each trying to communicate very hard with each other.
Sometimes it is amusing, sometimes sad.  Maybe we can all just agree to
disagree.  Nevertheless, I would (yep) like to add my own opinion to the
pile....

The Founder.  Thank you for starting this line.  Thank you for doing in
your heart is the right thing.  (Btw, your link doesn't work, but I am at
work.)  I am learning.  At my age.  I watch many young people on this forum
and wish I had known these things at my age.  But, alas, it just wasn't the
time.  Youth has energy, strength.  Yes, if there is a fight, you are the
ones to do it. Thank you for preparing, for could you do no different?

All of you, realize, that no matter what is truly RIGHT, as far as
'mindset' for the 'shift', people are going to be people before, during and
after whatever happens happens.

I happen to have the opinion that the poleshift will not be a dramatic
thing. It is the astronomy-type influences (comets/asteroids, etc.) that
worry my brain.  I don't like natural disasters of any kind.  But this is
my big bad fear-under-the-bed.  It is also my opinion that there will be
several influences happening on many levels in the upcoming years.....

My opinion is that the powers-that-be (illuminati-whatevers) that exist
will be busy plotting, using whatever leverage economically, politically,
war-wise (I have always felt war was only an economic tool),
propaganda-wise they can to keep society's attention on some problem while
still manipulating (or trying to) possible futures due to natural disasters
(tidal waves/super-quakes), etc.  Then we also have the spiritual side (but
I do consider everything spritual somehow) of the heart/mind
which many will die, but some will survive (thanks to those like Founder
who know survival/protection skills).  We all hear why the
good and bad aliens are all involved....but do we truly know the whole
story?  I am NOT dissing you guys, I just like to keep a wary ear to the
railroad track, that's all.  Like I say, it takes all kinds of us to
survive, whether anything disastrous happens, or it's just the aliens that
make a landing....things will start to pop one way or another!  So we need
those that communicate well with aliens too.  And the "this is all crap"
gang....we need you too.  We need your common sense, your earthiness,
someone to reel us back to reality from time to time and re-evaluate what
kind of ground are we really standing on at this moment.....
The "all is love" gang, people are going to need you like kids love candy.

Whether natural disasters happen or not, one thing is for sure.  Something
is going to happen.  It's just a matter of how it all pans out, because we
are all earth citizens.  Like true brothers and sisters we may kick and
fight when the parents aren't looking, but when the going gets truly rough,
we are there for each other.

The "i love power group" .... sorry guys...i have no words adequate for the
horrors they perpetuate now and in the future.  None of us know how long
(if any) it may take for all these changes (dimension, poles, catastrophes)
to occur, as I don't think they will happen all at the same time, just
maybe in the same generation.  The dimensional change is one of heart and
it affects the physical (as the heart/spirit always does) and a split may
occur when the earth passes thru this photon belt (that even scientists are
finally admitting exists anad will happen), or it may take a few
generations, who knows for sure?  And when/if the natural calamities take
place, God help us all on earth.  We will need those with survival and
battle skills to protect many who cannot defend themselves.  Just for the
survival of the human race as a specie.  Natural disasters would stop
crops, no food at the store, possibly no reliable water at all.  People in
the cities would start killing one another off very soon, very soon.  For
those not coalescing in protective tribal groups, the old "law of the
fittest" will prevail.  Many will die during this time, exceedingly many.
Not to mention the government probably adding to the fire by enforcing
marshall law and not letting people out to forage for water or food in the
woods.

I found a website that shows the NASA space calendar.  It has a list of all
the "events".  You cannot tell much from it, but one I found scared me
alot.  One asteroid has been paralelling the earth orbit for a good while
now.  Just think, if something else comes too close, like a passing
planetary influence, or the comets that they are talking
about.....well.....you see my concern.

This was a long wordy post.  [:I]

I commend the young.  Keep up the unique thoughts from ALL angles.  We need
every angle in the future to survive.  You will have to learn to think,
fight, and survive on your own because most likely most of us adults may
not live thru this.  The main thing is learn to think!  Don't let the
government or society or friends tell you you are stupid or unworthwhile!
Lives may depend on you.

And when you come thru it.  Remember, and learn from the mistakes of your
forbearers....Teach UNDERSTANDING, TOLERANCE, COMMUNICATION, and hopefully
peace will prevaid between humans and aliens, and other dimensional beings
of this earth and not of this earth.  Love the earth your mother and she
will provide for you all.

Thank you.
PuffAddr
Gotta stir it.  Gotta stir it.

[Adam]

Well Blackbox, I found your posts quite enjoyable. It's not so much the specifics, but rather the viewpoint, the perspective, that I find so noroushing. I wish more people would speak CONSCIOUSLY from their perspective and be open about it, rather then try to be correct or find the 'truest' viewpoint. I can tell that you've taken these thoughts inside yourself, and come up with your own perspective. So, I actually consider your thoughts quite original in this regard.

I mean, I've read things before along similar lines, but your presentation, perspective is unique, and what makes it so fresh.

You're certainly passionate PuffAddr. This is good, because passion comes from the heart, and will overcome barriers set forth by the ego and the mind. []

[BlackBox]

quote:I mean, I've read things before along similar lines, but your presentation, perspective is unique, and what makes it so fresh.

That's really awesome to get feedback like that. My thoughts are from back and forth jibber-jabber and banter from reading, then conversing and debating, and then finally I found myself settling down with having interpreted a lot of information.

I think it's important for people to know that the cycle of the Universe never ends. Every event occurs repetitively for eternity. Every thought has its place and that negativity is a choice, a preference, not a situation to dwell on. Most people who find life tough or unfair have already fell into a pit of creating a pedestal. They see what others have in human-form and memorize what happiness is for others so that they can one day emulate success for themselves. Instead they should realize that reality, at this level, is like an ocean. Our bodies + minds harness our sails and decide which course/path we lead to. To make something happen, you have to do two things: (1) set your mind-frame of what you want, so that IT will attract itself towards you. Reality is plastic and it actually bends to the whims of our intentions. (2) To be able to recieve what you manifest/bend towards you, you must discipline your actions to be receptive of the manifestations. Like you can't just think things and have them occur miraculously. That's only half of the job. You have to do to recieve. However, in 4th Density, which is where I'll be seeing you soon Adam, our thoughts are given the power that we wish they were given in 3D. Wishful-thinking literally manifests itself in that level of awareness, so those who are stressed right now should keep this in perspective and that all they must do is take a few deep-breaths and think positively, and most importantly, objectively. Act like a bird and see things from a few miles up.

There are many things that will occur that will test ones faith. There are a set of religions designed to make the majority of the world HATE and DESPISE true spiritualists. When the time comes, you will see religions as one of the main causes for the great wars to come. A false prophet will come, with blue eyes and blonde hair perhaps, and he will dazzle the world with magic and wonders (which all humans have innately built in via their pituitary/pineal glands and via the chemicals that are produced by our endocrine system) and he will gain the faith of the religious. Even if this particular event 'doesn't happen, something along these lines will occur, because the Powers-that-Be certainly will not give-up until they play out all of their cards. Religion being an Ace.

I doubted myself earlier, until you gave your comment Adam. I considered myself, within, unoriginal because everything I know mostly comes from reading other people's works. Yet you made me realize that I'm leaving out my intuition that led me there. The intuition that has led me there and back, in fact, with a bird's point-of-view/perspective that is highly more objective than the perspective I had months/years before. So, in those regards, I have grown and perhaps my words add to the words I have read. Even if it is still just the same song, different verse.

TheFounder is correct on stating there is a war coming. "As Above, So Below". By the virtue of objectivity, the Universe has 'structure'. By the virtue of subjectivity, the Universe creates 'chaos'. Chaos dawns ends and beginnings of cycles. If you can imagine a complicated molecule BREAKING UP as for the PURPOSE of rearranging itself, that  is the purpose of chaos. Chaos can also be subjectively described as negative if human-emotions are given enough lee-way and perhaps even called 'evil' if one truly dwells within their subjective mindsets. Again, it's all about perspective. What does one believe? Are we here for no reason, no purpose? Are the deaths we see, the deaths many of us contribute to, for nothing? Are they in vein or are they part of the virtue of subjectivity which is a representation of the 'chaos' element?

For example, there are people who now believe due to the news, politicians, and the 'experts' that the sun can 'hurt us'. That it is dangerous. A natural energy source that is the primary conductor of life on our planet is being discredited and people ignorantly believe so and dump chemically-induced sun-lotion with god knows what in it. I would think skin-cancer comes more from such chemicals than the sun. The same sun that countless species live upon, thrive upon. The same sun NATURE uses to convert to pure-energy.

I'm rambling right now, but I tend to enjoy just free-flowing my thoughts. I think they lead to good conlusions. I've had to water-down my ideas on other forums due to being ridiculed with not being understood. Of course there were always people who enjoyed my thoughts, but when I ramble, I tend to type grammatically less than perfect, and they dwell on the little errors rather than admitting I'm expressing some genuine, sincere thoughts.

The world is becoming more interesting every day. Of course, chaos will maximize its presence in the coming years, but it is all for a reason. Many of us say "Oh gosh, I dont want all this stuff to happen" yet they subconsciously, originally picked this time to exist in BECAUSE of what is taking place now. It is a very exciting time for observers. But for those who dwell on materialism (I dont mean those who enjoy materialism but those like Christina Aguilera who wear pounds of make-up and have a hired crew of people to keep her physically 'satisfied' which is a form of materialistic addiction) will continually resist the idea that chaos is occuring and that life MUST change. Change is natural. Clinging to something is what is NOT natural. If something is not going your way, you go with the flow instead of going against the grain. It's like walking up-river with the rapids growing stronger and stronger and yet ones ignorance BEGS the mind to remain thick and delusional.

Oh yes, there will be wars. But what is the worst that can happen? Death? Hah! There is NOTHING to worry about in the realms of death, except worrying about it. In fact, worrying about it, as I have stated above, will manifest it towards you and multiply the likeliness of it occuring. Add a few actions that correspond to that, and you get what you intentionally thought you were attempting to avoid.

My two cents anyway. []

[BlackBox]

Oh and I have to admit something...Australians tend to love me, so you may be biased in the way you percieve my thoughts.

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[Blackstream]

Asking for proof should not be considered taboo.  If you are going to walk up to me and tell me something I believe is completely false, either you give me a reason to believe (aka proof), or you go on your merry way having wasted your breath.

Tell me, what is the point of sharing your views if everyone just says, "Hmm that's nice.  Maybe a war is coming maybe not."  There is none.  We got a potpourii of ideas that no one puts any stock in.  There's no point in tossing around ideas that no one accepts.  To accept an idea, a valid reason must be presented.  Multiple people claiming the same things about reality is one decent one, if nothing else is used (like everyone saying a demon war is coming).  Proof of telekineses through a video is a much better example of one.  Unless Beavis is just straight out trying to fool everyone, his video proves that telekineses is possible.

[RandomName]

Here is a question, how many of you have trained in areas other than Astral Projection? I honestly became interested in the metaphysical when i was 10, and started goofing with the basics of Psi when i was 12, and then stopped when I was 14 to pursue AP. Now, between age 12 and 14, my parents learned of my interests, and I also learned a type of healing involving Psi, not sure of the name. Anyways, I cannot gurantee I can project anytime i wish, but I know for DAMN sure my healing abilities WORK. I have assisted the healing of a broken arm, and had it healed in 2 weeks, and cleared a pinched nerve in 2 days that would normally take surgery. I never thought much of this, more on the lines as it is simple and I never notice it as a special ability to be able to act as a moderately skilled healer at MY AGE.

Concentration and natural fighting ability are never really on someones mind, but some people, the oddballs, have no reason other than their own instinct to improve these skills. We have boxers, we have football players, we have our modern military men, we have those who train in martial arts for nothing more than the thought of being skilled.

While I hate to have people thinking this, I do have an ingrained mental beleif that something is going SERIOUSLY wrong with this world, and that we are running ourselves out of time. Someone said avoid the possibility of the problem by taking it out ahead of time, prevent this possible "war"....well, why not?

I know where I stand with my abilities, I can heal others spiritually to a certain extent, and I am a football player sized guy, and have practiced with a sword i crafted,out of sheer boredom. I have a knack for shooting, be it bow or rifle, I love learning about weaponry.

My views on this possible war is really unique. I am NOT prepared, never would be, nor would anyone. But at the same time, I have the feeling its possible but never going to happen, much like I feel its POSSIBLE for someone to gun me down at school, but im not concerned they would.

I know it sounds rediculous basing beleifs on unproven things but its GUT INSTINCT that has me feeling the way I do, not any doomsayer you could bump into. The problem here is, I AM the doomsayer, I just keep my mouth shut, because I have no idea where its coming from or what it possibly means.

Perhaps the world won't be annihilated by an asteroid, perhaps the polar ice caps won't melt, perhaps humans will push on for many more years, but I feel that this WON'T happen, and i have no idea why. I do beleive though, that a merge between the astral realm and this one is a good chance, because think about it, we as humans are spiritual regardless if we want to be or not, and its the non that are always fighting the possibility of a god or divine plan/purpose.

Now my question is, how often does someone stroll up to you and tell you to be ready for the rest of your life? NEVER....so I suggest everyone take a good long look at themselves, realize what they have, love themselves for it, and move on in life. If we do have a great and honorable fight ahead, so be it, but lets not dwell on what is to come, because if we do, we waste our time pushing aside greater acheivements as a race. If our time is coming, all of the worlds prejudices, seperating race, sex, creed....They will all vanish in our finest hour and either all of our race will unite or we are all going to perish, its that simple. It applys to anything, we have shut down a greater opponent on many occasions throughout history, but that greater opponent has always had its own, brainwashed, massive group to do its bidding. Various revolts in history, the world wars, all of it shows when people set aside most of their differences and fight for a greater good/evil.

So, do not dwell on that which NOBODY can comprehend at this time, otherwise you will be the brainwashed fighting for the WRONG side should that time ever come. Live your life to your fullest, enjoy yourself, and disregard your fears until the day they are going to be proven or refuted, because you may actually never experience that which perfects you as a person should you change your ideas for fear of a coming conflict.

Be like me, confident in life and have a good time. Leave these thoughts where they belong, back of your mind [^]

[BlackBox]

Hi Psi,

Back of your mind, eh? Indeed, but some of us still need to discuss it before putting it there. Personally I share your opinions to the "T", but I am urged to speak my opinions to some others so that perhaps what they haven't yet heard, can be taken to account.

Anyways...more about you know because you've triggered my interest and I have a vibe I'm getting from you.

Have you ever in your life noticed 'number sychronicites'? Master numbers on clocks? 11:33, 2:22...multiples of 11 and single numbers? 11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99?

I am envious of your abilities. However you earned it from past-lives (which I dont mean only from the past, because many incarnations come from the future of our linear time-line).

Your confidence and sense of all of this being easy to approach is another indication of what you have earned from your various incarnations. But don't expect it to be like that in the psyches of everyone else. Many people indeed need your insight, your confidence, to be shared. It sooths some people like you wouldn't believe. Simply to hear it, even if it sometimes irritates you to repeat that which sounds like 'old news' to you.

Anyways, answer my question on the number-sychronicities.

[Sentential]

PSI Im gonna have to agree with you. But, doomsday is questionable. Im not sure, but alot of the older souls here are noticing something..... but there is definatly something on the horizon.... and its gonna happen soon.

It may be good, bad, or both. But I fore-see great changes ahead. I dont know when or how, but somthing tells me that we are in store for a hellova ride.

But yes, I and many others sense what you are feeling now.

[Aileron]

I've actually discussed some of the synchronicities here before. From a personal standpoint, they mean many things. Too many in fact to cover in a forum, but having been affected by them for a little over six years now, they are becoming more than just normal day occurance for me.
We each have our own synchronicity with certain numbers, each person having their individual passions and interests sometimes revolving around those numbers or factions of numbers. Sometimes the numbers just defining aspects of the self such as past incarnation, birthdates/ astrological signs(personal planet, specific kabala, etc), people, places, and so on.

Its hard to define the synchronicities though for others as I am finding as we each have to associate what the meanings are for ourselves, and maybe close friends.

Its those numbers that are the source of mass awareness that we should attempt to seek together such as you mentioned blackbox.
11, 22, 33 and so on.
11:11 Being a specific combination on the clock a vast majority are seeing.
I personally am having issues with this number as many years ago when it began to reveal itself to me I was only learning of its meaning, and now it has completely become part of who I am and what I am searching for. Not out of obsession or pyschological conditioning but because of full blown deep association with the number that I never knew existed until some months back.

Anyway, the numbers can mean a lot of things as was mentioned ealier, we can seek I-ching or astronomy for associations relating to our life direction, but I believe that there is more hidden in some of the numbers such as 11, 22, etc.
Read into the numbers each time you see them, or think back through the day even the week to relate it without touching on overly reading into something.

Some believe there was an 11:11 gate that opens ever so often and allows our being to more easily trancend into astral realms, projections, dimensions, whatever you may want to call it.
While others believe it be a sign of what is coming, and has happened. Such as the twin towers falling on 9/11, and the two together looked like an 11.
Plus 2011 is the final year before we supposedly move into mayan transformation.
as has been mentioned more than once, although occuring on 12/21/2012, the year leading up to that date will be the only real chance to connect to yourself before the equinox occurs revealing the tree of life.

11 could also be a symbol of who we are, that 1 and 1 together make 2 or a whole. Meaning we need to find that other person, that one person who fills us and makes us complete before the transformation perhaps.
The whole could also be the revealing of the eye.

For instance, I see our social structure as a heirarchy, where the poverished live at the bottom of our pyramid society, and the wealthy powerful are at the top. The eye above is that finality, the 12, either the omnipresent source of who we are, the hidden conspirators, or the final clue to what may topple the pyramid.

Two other number combinations which have been showing up more recently and what I find kind of humorous, are both 666 and 777. Associations of those two should be obvious.

Those arent all my thoughts, but a quick summation of what I have seen and learned up till now.

[BlackBox]

Great thoughts.

quote:As before mentioned, the number 11 has special significance.   In Numerology it is not reduced to a single digit.

It is a power number as is 22, 33 etc.   The number 11 represents the vision. The number 22 combines vision with action.   The number 33 offers guidance to the world.  The master numbers 11, 22, and 33 represent a triangle.   A triangle of enlightenment or illumination.

Now I personally believe that Master-Numbers are subtle signs equivalent to the hero's "call". Except "the call" is not for Super-Man and his literal archetypes, but rather light-workers.

I've come to believe that sources such as the Pleidians are correct about light-workers. First people must realize that TIME doesn't exist. Linear time is created by time-locks that reinforce primary-events. Like 2012 is a pretty good example of a primary event. Sources of disinformation even always admit to it.

If time doesn't exist, then reincarnation works backwards as well as forward. So I believe that light-workers incarnate backwards through linear-time. I believe there are millions of us, but we are engulfed among billions of regular incarnated humans. Moreover, the amnesia of birth keeps most of us so busy and distracted with real-life that we do not realize our hidden assignments, one being to meddle with time-locks, as to change history, so to speak.

I think seeing master-numbers, multiples of 11, are the subtle 'call' to those light-workers.

[Aileron]

Blackbox, I am very interested as to where the source of that information comes from.
I have never heard of the correlation between those corresponding digits used as such and it intrigues me.
Also who made that quote used?