Why wont spirits tell anything useful ?

[zareste]

"but even the so called 'higher beings' just go round and round in circles with meaningless gibberish."

It's true. The ones who call themselves 'beings of light' or 'higher beings' became higher beings the same way the rich got their money - they suck the life force out of anyone who can't defend themselves. So when you look to them for information, they're not going to give you any answers because they don't know the answers. What they DO know is how to portray themselves as an all-encompassing, all-knowing force you cannot defy.

[Plasma]

Well has ANYONE ever been told of anything from higher biengs/spirits in the OBE world which was useful? surely it cant ALL be nonsense what they come out with. Anyone been able to confirm anything they've said?

[zareste]

I've gotten some useful information from spirits, but a rule of thumb is, never listen to someone who says they're higher than you. That alone says they are liars

[Plasma]

K what did he tell you please that was useful? TY.

[no_leaf_clover]

I've gotten a lot of useful information too.

I can only guess the reasons for it -
1. Its all fake, no one can communicate with spirits really.

That's not it.

2. Spirits don't want to interfere with normal workings of the world, so don't pass any higher knowledge down.

That's true sometimes.

3. They want us to learn in a hard way, using our own intelligence.

That's true sometimes too.  But you say "hard," really it is natural and inevitable, so nothing really has to be said, that we won't figure out ourselves in due time due to necessity caused by eternal change all across the universe.

4. They do say things in thought forms which are useful, but our physically rooted minds distort it and filter it out during communications.

There's truth to this too.  But I would say it's more our selfish and material desires that cause all of the distortion, and more critically render the knowledge useless. The people that really "got it" before the rest of us already left society and dedicate most/all their time to meditation.  We're still stuck here learning to get on with it until we can get on without it again.

5. They think that we have enough knowledge about the physical and non-physical to carry on, and there is no need to over burden us with things which we wont use and understand anyway.

I'm sure this is the case sometimes too.  Not to mention hardly anyone is ever listening or would even know how to any particular spirit.

6. They are only as intelligent as we are, so don't posses any more knowledge then we do.

I would say they all possess "different" knowledge than we do, and that also applies to all your human peers on an individual level.

7. They are not interested in physical at all.

Only out of ignorance should they not be interested! 'For every motion in heaven, there is a corresponding motion on Earth.' - and vice-versa

8. They have got rid of all things related to physical and cant seem to relate to them anymore. So our questions about physics are Chinese to them.

There are obvious answers to huge scientific problems that science itself will never be able to approach without deep modifications.  There are known today, have been known for thousands of years by many different people, but cause much scientific confusion and can't be scientifically quantified.  Pi is one example of this.  I could give reasons as to why no algorithm can predict the digits of pi, that it has to be measured, but it would probably classify as "meaningless gibberish" or however you put it.  But I would still say I have a better understanding of the number than modern science has.

9. They are afraid that we would misuse the knowledge.

There are already natural mechanisms that prevent this, though they are very hard to explain in so many words.

10. They prefer to communicate useful things via dreams, inspirations, insights, gut feelings, intuitions and such.

People are typically much more receptive to energy from "outside" in those states, yes.

11. They are already in full communication with our 'higher selves', so there is no need to repeat the things here on earth.

Something like that.  Life-force (including "spirits," the "secret of the universe") is already present all over your body, and is what actually makes your body alive and able to grow, adapt, etc., from the DNA level (and below) and up, but mostly on very tiny levels where all kinds of miraculous things can take place.  To be able to make larger parts of your body able to resonate with these energies on a larger scale, to make your body fit and healthy as possible, to open up your chakras, raise kundalini, etc., is to bring this coherence already within your body to an extraordinary level where it manifests on a completely different level, through your own attention and care.

[Plasma]

For anyone who has recieved information from higher spirits - has there been anything you have verified and could not had known if they had not told you? for example maybe they had told you something about the near future that happened as they said or maybe they gave you information on solving a problem which would had been alot harder for you to do alone.

[Plasma]

Guess there hasnt.

[majour ka]

They do, all the time..prehaps your not listening

[CFTraveler]

I've had things that were verified and things that were not.  I learned to tell the difference in how the voices made me feel.  If it was a voice that sounded as if someone was next to me, and I felt disconnected from the answer, I discount it.  But if it the answer seems to come from deep inside, and I 'know' it's true, it is.
Now I can't tell you if it's 'guides', or what, but because of the quality of the stuff I'm going to go with 'Higher Self'.