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Xanth

That's some weird stuff.  lol

Kinda has a feeling of someone testing new holographic technology or something.  LoL

CFTraveler

#2
Turned out to be a russian missile.  Unofficial sources from the military.  And apparently, it wasn't the first time.
http://www.barentsobserver.com/failed-russian-missile-visible-over-northern-norway.4663494-116320.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_y5r7vHio

Stookie

Geez, the reality of unexplained situations always ruins the fun!

Everlasting

How the hell can a missile create that spiral pattern, uhh more lies to the masses.
Priests of hippocratic love talk of peace and Christ, Power is their only goal. Now they all shall die.

Tiny

#5
What is it that exactly gives the military any sort of credibility? Have they deserved to be naively trusted? No, not in my opinion. And from my research they have been blatant liars all the way through the last 100 years and have every reason to do so in their system of classified secrecy.


I've remote viewed this vortex myself and I KNOW that this is some sort of tunnel artificially created by either the human-elite or extraterrestrials who are based in that area, I can't say for sure but I had the feeling that it was ET's hand (grey type), again.



peace

Tiny

#6
ok that video was already posted

zareste

and here's another very similar sighting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGrbdlfnFJg&feature=player_embedded - and that was in California 6 months ago. No Russian missiles to blame there.

I'm still confused. It seems to be a vortex, but I wouldn't think it's necessary for a craft to pick up speed before entering a vortex. Maybe I'm wrong. And the fact that these objects are spiraling incoherently seems clumsy for a modern plasma craft. Perhaps some human organizations are tampering with hyper-space

CFTraveler

The first time I saw this I asked myself- did they fix the Hadron collider?  But now I'm as perplexed as I started out- because California isn't really close to any of those places.
:?
*scratches head*

Stillwater

I agree that world militaries are hardly a credible source- their track record speaks for itself.

Perhaps it was indeed a missile, but it is an astonishingly odd display, and I would want to see other footage and photos from similar missiles before I considered the possibility. I have never know a missile to leave such a pattern...
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Xanth

They posted an explanation for it.
Basically, the missle would spin around releasing fumes of some kind which cause the trail and the spiral.
The spiral is noticed because you're looking at it head on...

Now... I don't buy that for a second.
I find it very hard to believe that it would last 10 - 15 MINUTES if that was the case.
In any case, the Russians even deny the missle test in the first place... but then, I guess we can't trust anyone.  lol

Stookie

I've shot off bottle rockets with odd tails that spiral like that.

The other thing I thought of was the light shining up at it was coming from a projector and was projecting the image onto clouds, kinda like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X85A1dCpzsI

Everlasting

Hmm EISCAT is nearby, they problaby blasted the ethers with a cople of gigawatts and tore up the spacetime continuum

http://eiscat.com/
Priests of hippocratic love talk of peace and Christ, Power is their only goal. Now they all shall die.

no_leaf_clover

I don't know what caused that thing but I know for sure that it wasn't just a rocket that malfunctioned.  I'm not believing that BS for a second.
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

CFTraveler

As I was watching the three separate instances of this happening (one in Cali, one in Sweden, and another one someone posted somewhere (I have lost count) three things occurred to me:
1- If it's a malfunctioning rocket, it seems to malfunction the same way.  That's 'weird', you'd think there'd be 'other' ways a missile would malfunction-
2- The doohickey thingie that comes out of the 'whirpool' thingie seems to be some sort of booster thing, meaning that it has 'stages', like a shuttle-
3-It seems to do the spiral thingie- even if it's a failed military experimental gizmo, it seems to be made to do something to one point in space, and to open something, reminding me of wormholes or stargates or something like that.  It doesn't look like a 'mistake', maybe it didn't do what it's supposed completely, but the spiral thingie seems 'pat'- like it's designed to do that.

Whatever it is, it sure looks pretty, like a flower or one of those 'hypno' vortexes that used to be in the backs of comic books when I was a kid.


:? :lol:


kurtykurt42

I'll take number 3, CFT. It definitely looks like an interdimensional wormhole to me, probably used for a ship or a satelite, or perhaps even a rocket. 

Stillwater

It makes sense that if a missile malfunctioned, that one possible mode of failure would be to spiral- if the the missile takes anything less than thrust on a near perfect line through its center of gravity, or loses rotational stability through damage to a fin, etc., it should indeed spiral in spiral in such a gyre, from the off-center torque-moment forces.

That said, the effect does in fact appear intentional. What they were trying to test is anyone's guess. Rule number one of any government action is do what you want, until someone sees you doing it. Then think of the most plausible-sounding excuse, that will cause the least trouble to you in the future- sometimes that happens to be the truth, and sometimes not.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

CFTraveler

Maybe they wanted to see what people say about it.
I wonder how we did?

Stookie

I know people don't want to believe the missile theory, but here's another look at it:

http://gizmodo.com/5422792/this-is-how-the-mysterious-giant-spiral-happened

I'm an occams razor kinda guy.

Xanth

I saw that video the day CFT posted the original link.
It convinced me for a few seconds, then for some reason some other processes kicked in in my noggin and I didn't buy it anymore.

I think they're trying to make evidence fit the description... and they're trying too hard.
I dunno, I guess Mr Occam might be right, who knows.  ;)

CFTraveler

Well, I don't know if it was Hey-Zeus or Thor, or a missile, but it sure was pretty.
Anyway.

Stookie

That's what I thought - it was like watching fireworks, with the "oohs" and "aahs", but without the "I think we should leave before the finale so we don't have to sit in traffic".

zareste

Quote from: Stookie on December 14, 2009, 14:42:49I know people don't want to believe the missile theory, but here's another look at it:

http://gizmodo.com/5422792/this-is-how-the-mysterious-giant-spiral-happened

I'm an occams razor kinda guy.
Sure it's more simple to say a Russian missile showed up in Norway and California and other places and spiraled out of control each time, but isn't that painfully stupid?

Xanth

Quote from: CFTraveler on December 14, 2009, 17:39:47
Well, I don't know if it was Hey-Zeus or Thor, or a missile, but it sure was pretty.
Anyway.
Maybe that's all we should take from this?
"It was pretty"... I can fully agree with that statement.  :)

Stookie

Quote from: zareste on December 15, 2009, 02:21:57
Sure it's more simple to say a Russian missile showed up in Norway and California and other places and spiraled out of control each time, but isn't that painfully stupid?
Right now it's the most plausible theory. "Interdimensional Vortex" seems much more imaginative driven than a missile, but if that's proven to be the case, so be it (how would one know what one looks like, as if they've been around before). But in my lifetime rockets have misfired many times, whereas this would be the first "supernatural", beyond-physical thing. So I don't see it as being stupid, but plausible until something better or more provable comes along. Then Mr. Occam will check that one out.

I'm not saying "THIS WAS A MISSILE!", but I'm not saying it wasn't... yet. If more of these things start showing up in other parts of the world then we'll have more to go by. Outside of "missile", the only theories I've heard have to do with UFO's and vortex's.