a few questions from a newbie

[m0d0]

hey there gbarton.

Im not an absolute expert on the matter. However one of the strongest beliefs which i hold true is self-belief.

If you don't want to encounter Negative forces, just believe in yourself, and maintain a positive frame of mind durinig your AP session. Maybe come up with a few positive words you could repeat to yourself during your meditation. Words that are positive or special to you. As i learnt myself today. Likes attract likes, so be positive and think good thoughts and that is what ye shall receive.

As for the stress factor. I'm sure your not the only person on this board who suffers with the stress of life. Stress is an emotion and with enough work emotions can be conditioned and controlled (Without perscription drugs!). Believe me when i say enjoy school whilst you can. It may seem stressful, but boooooy that aint nothing compared to the outside world.

I too hated school when i was there, now i would give my left arm to go back.

As for the lower realms. I dont think its a place you can goto accidentally. Somewhere along the way you have to make a conscious decision to enter those realms. I think if you just stay positive you won't have to worry.

anywayz Good Luck.

Cheers,

Mo!

[holy reality]

based upon descriptions of the lower realms i may have danced with them a few times... i've been to some screwed up places.... but not really bad...

"have trouble controlling my thoughts at times and I'm afriad that if I'm in an OBE that a thought about a spider or something may fly in my head and then there one appears."

Well... I too fear that... and sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't... it kind of depends on just what kind of environment you are in... and whether you BELIEVE it will happen or not...

I mean, whenever I used to go flying I would often times hit a giant spider web, and I'd freak the hell out and instantly wake myself up... I hated this, and so everytime I flew I'd be like "wow this is going good....." then I'd think about spiders.... SNAP.... *WAKE UP!!!*....

Your best bet is to confront those fears, though... but it's easier said than done... you know?

For every bad thought you have try to instantly cancel it out with a positive thought "What if there's a huge spider around the corner?" "No, there are no spiders around here, and if there are I can battle them off and it's nothing to worry about." (even though you might not believe that, it helps to say it anyway)

If you're lucid it might also help to try to create a temporary guardian of sorts that can defend you.... I did this once by creating "Steve the Bear" I gave him a chaingun... and rode him around battling things, it was quite fun and it takes some of the nervousness off knowing you've got yourself and a kickass guardian you just made to protect you.

It can be kind of hard to make them though, I guess it depends on what state of mind you are in or how much energy you have, or what type of dream or level of projection it is... or something.

[gbarton13]

thanks for the replys you guys! Again, that is my worst fear. Holy, how is it to just fly? Were you flying over a highway or over a city etc? You just thought about spiders and hit a web? Did you ever create a hugh one? I tried several times today to get a OBE but I got close to the vibrations but I felt fear in my heart and stopped. I think I'm going to try meditating to try and clear my mind a fears. Did any of you stay on earth during your OBE? Do you feel the things that you would in real life, ex. if you flew to a theme park and went on a ride, would you feel the excitement?

[Nick]

Hi gbarton13,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse! []

There is a lot of good information at this website. Try reading over some past topics in the Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics forum. You will find a number of your questions answered from reading past posts.

Also, there is a search engine at the top of the page where you can put in a word or words and find topics that previously covered the same material. We also have a File Library that you may want to explore with lots more information.

There are also plenty of good books. If you have not yet read Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce I would recommend it. There are other great books out there too by authors such as Robert Monroe, Scott Rogo, William Buhlman and Robert Peterson, to name but a few.

Looking foreward to hearing more from you.

Very best,

[Zarklon]

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[gbarton13]

Hi,
I've been looking into the astral projection thing for a few days now. My cousin first told me about it when he bought the mind saturation cds. I have a fews questions though. I've read alot about the lower level astral realms. I most certiantly do not want to end of there because I know I'll see things that will make me not want to do this again. I have alot of stress in my life since I'm in school and will that stress affect where I go during an astral projection? Also, what is the difference between the astral projection and RTZ? Can you eat while in the astral projection, have sex? I have trouble controlling my thoughts at times and I'm afriad that if I'm in an OBE that a thought about a spider or something may fly in my head and then there one appears. Is it like that that if I think of something there that it institaniously appears? If im in a OBE, do I have to go to the astral realms? Can I stay here on the earth plane? Will I still see demons if I stay here? I would appreatiate any feedback you have for me.