How do you know when you have phased?

[Bellend_1010]

For all those trying to phase.....how do you know when you have accomplished this? what is the sure sign for you? how does your consciousness or field of vision,feeling etc change?

[Loki999]

Yeah Bellend_1010 im glad u asked this question i read alot about phasing and some noticing stuff but there seems to be no information on the signs or symptoms of perception change that will let you know if your making any progress unfortuantly i cant answer your question because i have also been looking for this information. I hope nobody links to the thread made by so and so because if they do what im thinking would be very annoying because it talks allot about nothing. I think the truth may be that phasing is just the same as normal astral projection just a different mind set, that makes it harder.   

[Lionheart]

 I feel like I have phased when my mind is no longer on the physical and I am viewing the Astral first hand.

[Loki999]

Great Advice Lionhead that will really help us reach the goal great job LMFAO

[Lionheart]

 LMFAO? Sorry I don't text or twitter, so I don't understand what this means.

[Xanth]

For all those trying to phase.....how do you know when you have accomplished this? what is the sure sign for you? how does your consciousness or field of vision,feeling etc change?

You'll be somewhere you weren't 5 seconds prior. 

It's like walking through a door.  You're not into the next room until you've walked through the door, but when you have walked through it, it's kinda obvious. 

[Boom]

As a beginner also. I wanna share onto here about my first experiences and how I "knew".

Perhaps people are different.   Perhaps this is synomous with how girls "know" they are pregnant. As a girl who's never been pregnant before to describe how she would know she is, and she probably cant answer it.  I think its the same here.

For me, any kind of astral projection I have had (and it hasnt been many) has felt like a hard dream. During the projection, it is like "omg this is it! I am here!" then when I wake up, it feels like it was a dream. But you know it was more than that.  Because during the "dream" I was very concious and could still talk to myself using my inner voice, and I could look around and perceive it like I was actually there.

Despite some people saying that it is as solid as the physical. There is absolutely no way that I could have got the two muddled up. During the projection and after I knew that it was not the same as the physical.  I am not going to do something in an astral projection and then confuse it with something I actually did in the physical waking life.  For me, the memories are filed very differently. Just as you wouldnt confuse a dream memory with a physical memory. It is like they are stored in a seperate memory area.

So what does it feel like? Well for me. I was laid there half asleep. Then suddenly felt a "woooosh" sensation. I felt motion.  Perhaps like what you feel like after a day you've been to the theme park riding roller coasters all day. You get in bed that night and you can still feel the movements, even though you know youre not physically moving.  Its like that, but stronger.  Once it felt like i was laid on my front and being dragged off my bed from my legs.  But I knew I wasnt really. I was laid on my back and was perfectly still.  You can't confuse it with real life motion.

I've also felt my ears fading out. The blackness with my eyes closed, shooting forward. A real "wham!" effect.  I just let it go further and further. Sometimes felt like i was giving myself a brain hemmorage. (I think this was the vibrations for me.. tho differnet to how other people describe them).

Then I have felt very light. I've felt like im moving an arm or a leg, but i know theyre not my physical arms or legs moving.  When I get vision, its kinda dark. With very little peripheral vision. But somewhat sharp. Like when a short sighted person puts glasses on.  Get a toilet roll and put a lense on the end of it, then look through it with one eye.  Its like that.  Its just very very different to the vision you get in a dream. Plus throughout, I've still been there. My own conciousness. My own thoughts, my own inner voice.  Basically I have been fully aware.

And thats it, my experiences are limited. But this is what I have felt.   All I can say is, when it happens you will know. The first time you get any sort of effect, you'll probably snap straight out of it out of excitement or fear. So its like baby steps. Have to keep trying and trying and with each success, you'll get further and further in.

I just wish I could achieve all the above a lot more.  I've been into this for about 6 months now, and still only had one or two clear but brief projections, and a couple of OBEs.

[Lionheart]

 I agree 100% with Boom's experiences. I always feel the Roller Coaster, then have the darkness shooting forward. After this I feel like one of my limbs is turned the wrong way or that the body has expanded. But I see this as signposts on the way there, I truly don't feel I have accomplished the phase until my focus is totally gone from the physical. When you get there you really know it. There's no physical feeling like it!
To Loki, Astral Projection is the result of phasing for me. Everyone has the same goal, which is to project. I never feel like I am leaving my body and I have never really wanted to see myself sitting or laying in a chair. I wanted my experience to go much deeper than this. I figured with all the posts that you do here, that you too would have your own techniques nailed down. I think people need to use other threads and ideas as stepping stones, but everyone sooner or later develops their own ways to travel. What is good for one person I don't think works for all.

[Bellend_1010]

Ty for your observations with phasing. Rather than start a new thread  I thought I would ask here:

you guys find when phasing its better to look into darkness and try visualize or just let the darkness visualize for you? I mean do you try to imagine somewhere to "go into" or let your mind just take you?

[Loki999]

So whats the difference from phasing and astral projection

[Xanth]

So whats the difference from phasing and astral projection

The "how" you get from here to there.  Nothing more.

[Lionheart]

 Myself personally right now I visualize to jumpstart the process. After about 10 mins of focusing on the same thing, my visualized object (in this case my Spiining Tops) takes on a whole new life of their own. Last night it went from Spinning tops to pens creating scribbles to actually writing that I could read. From that moment on I mentally voiced my intent  on where I wished to have this session go. I think Phasing is a scientific term for Astral Projection. It seems to be a more futured name for the same event.

[blis]

So whats the difference from phasing and astral projection

Phasing is just a way to project. It's going straight from the physical to the astral instead of physical to RTZ to astral.

[Xanth]

Phasing is just a way to project. It's going straight from the physical to the astral instead of physical to RTZ to astral.

Actually, it's not even that.  With Phasing you can end up in the RTZ or the "astral" or any other non-physical reality frame.

Phasing is simply the "how" we get to the somewhere that isn't here.
Phasing describes the smooth transition of your consciousness from here to there.
While the Classic Separation OBE method describes the transition of consciousness from here to there via the feeling and sensation of separating from your physical body.  With Phasing there are no such sensations.  It's just a direct transition of your consciousness.