Breakthroguh! Finally figured out the magic ingredient to project!

[personalreality]

I think it might be appropriate to point out that energy work doesn't require you to follow a particular technique (like NEW) and more importantly, energy work may take numerous forms that might not be traditionally defined as energy work.

For example, when Xanth is doing phasing practice, I'd call that energy work.

When Tiny pulls energy up his feet, that's energy work.

When Stookie does NEW exercises, that's energy work.

When I focus on attention on my heart chakra as the primary mode of perception throughout my day, that's energy work.

Just thinking about projection is energy work in it's own way, conditioning your energy to prepare for OBE.

[Naykid]

First, "how" I project doesn't matter.  Fact of the matter is that I DO project.
Secondly, I have stuck got my foot in the door as far as conscious exits are concerned.
So yes, I can say, unequivocally, that I do not require energy work for successful projections.

But as I pointed out, I'm not saying "DO NOT DO ENERGY WORK"... I'm saying that I don't need to do it, so others might not either.  
In the end, people do best for themselves.  

OK.. Ryan, I was only asking, seriously you don't need to get defensive every time I speak to you or anyone else on the board.  I'm merely having a conversation.  I never did energy work either and had many projections.  I was just saying that perhaps, JUST PERHAPS, because you've focused so much on NOT doing energy work, you've done yourself an injustice.  Some times when we focus on what we don't want to happen, that is the very thing that happens.  I'm not explaining myself very well...

I totally agree with you PR and I've said that very thing last week..... 

[personalreality]

\o/

metaphysically we seem to be on the same page quite a bit.

[Stookie]

I think it's more constructive to talk about what does work than say things like "energy work is a waste of time for me" right after someone else said it was a breakthrough for them. The advice given a lot is "you have to find what works for you", and Tiny did that. Tiny's words might help someone who was stuck where he was.

In other words, I don't just wait for the chance at random, i want to study very carefully. I don't see any gain in doing something that I don't yet fully understand.

I completely understand. I'm sort of at the same point myself right now - I don't want random shots at it anymore, I like conscious success every time.

[Xanth]

I think it might be appropriate to point out that energy work doesn't require you to follow a particular technique (like NEW) and more importantly, energy work may take numerous forms that might not be traditionally defined as energy work.

For example, when Xanth is doing phasing practice, I'd call that energy work.

When Tiny pulls energy up his feet, that's energy work.

When Stookie does NEW exercises, that's energy work.

When I focus on attention on my heart chakra as the primary mode of perception throughout my day, that's energy work.

Just thinking about projection is energy work in it's own way, conditioning your energy to prepare for OBE.

I guess one could call it that. 

OK.. Ryan, I was only asking, seriously you don't need to get defensive every time I speak to you or anyone else on the board.  I'm merely having a conversation.

Who's defending what?  I thought, as you said, we were having a conversation.  O_o 
I was explaining my point of view on what you asked about.   

I never did energy work either and had many projections.  I was just saying that perhaps, JUST PERHAPS, because you've focused so much on NOT doing energy work, you've done yourself an injustice.  Some times when we focus on what we don't want to happen, that is the very thing that happens.  I'm not explaining myself very well...

That's always a possibility.  Definitely.
I disagree with it... but the fact remains it IS a possibility. 

[Naykid]

It could be me taking your text wrong but I don't know how you expect me to take it when you start off with a sentence like this:

First, "how" I project doesn't matter.  Fact of the matter is that I DO project.

I'm sorry if I read that wrong, you sound defensive. My bad and my apologizes.

I think it's more constructive to talk about what does work than say things like "energy work is a waste of time for me" right after someone else said it was a breakthrough for them. The advice given a lot is "you have to find what works for you", and Tiny did that. Tiny's words might help someone who was stuck where he was.

Couldn't agree more.

[daytona955]

Well done Tiny! I will definately give this techinique a try today. I'll let you know how I get on.

[Tiny]

You folks still argue like children!   Always trying to take the lead don't you...

[AlanRK]

It seems like the criteria for what constitutes an "argument" on this forum is especially loose.

[daytona955]

Well, no luck for me I'm afraid. That said I am still a complete novice having only managed to project twice before, and that's only after losing consciousness!!!
Anyway, I did definately feel the energy but I just couldn't control my thoughts. Have you any tips please Tiny, on what you do when you prepare to project? Cheers!

[Xanth]

It seems like the criteria for what constitutes an "argument" on this forum is especially loose.

hehe I'll second that. 

Well, no luck for me I'm afraid. That said I am still a complete novice having only managed to project twice before, and that's only after losing consciousness!!!

Don't sell yourself short!  Two projections, even from an unconscious state is still two projections! 
I think it's the much easier way to have them, but then that's just my personal opinion. 

[daytona955]

hehe I'll second that. 
Don't sell yourself short!  Two projections, even from an unconscious state is still two projections! 
I think it's the much easier way to have them, but then that's just my personal opinion. 

Granted, I seem to be able to achieve this easier, it's just that I have no control over when it happens, (at least I don't think I do). And I am still yet to be fully aware when I do project. I know I need to give it time, but there are so many things I'm bursting to do!

[Bellend_1010]

So to the original poster......how do you do this technique exactly? you just imagine tingling at your feet and it eventually sweeps up your whole body? pls tell more thx,

[personalreality]

I would imagine it to be similar to Robert Bruce's NEW Full-Body Circuit.

[Bellend_1010]

Did a search. Damn it will take me ages to get through all the info on it can anyone give me a quick low down on the exact procedure pls?

[Pauli2]

Did a search. Damn it will take me ages to get through all the info on it can anyone give me a quick low down on the exact procedure pls?

just follow the links inside -> http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/robert_bruce_astral_dynamics_amp_other_books-t31956.0.html

[CFTraveler]

Did a search. Damn it will take me ages to get through all the info on it can anyone give me a quick low down on the exact procedure pls?

http://www.astraldynamics.com/home/new-energy-ways/using-new-full-tutorial/85-part-9-energy-raising-and-storage.html

And scroll down to
Full Body Storage Circuits

Doesn't get any more direct than that.

[WASD]

Congratulations I read all the posts and it was very nice thread.

[Bellend_1010]

Yeh but this is a problem I have. If there is too much info I just cannot relax and do something because my mind is racing at trying to remember what to do next and if you look at the amount of info on this technique by that 1 page I think I would have to be getting up and lying down and getting up and lying down just to keep looking at it on the computer screen to see if I doing it correctly which would disturb the process.

Can anyone experienced with this method give a very brief procedure? thx.

[Xanth]

Yeh but this is a problem I have. If there is too much info I just cannot relax and do something because my mind is racing at trying to remember what to do next and if you look at the amount of info on this technique by that 1 page I think I would have to be getting up and lying down and getting up and lying down just to keep looking at it on the computer screen to see if I doing it correctly which would disturb the process.

Can anyone experienced with this method give a very brief procedure? thx.

Then I think you just need to learn to "relax".
If all this stuff is too much for you, I'd suggest the really simple "Noticing" exercise.
It's simple, yet highly effective. 

[personalreality]

that's the crummy part of a lot of these techniques that require a "lot" from you (like visualizations).  you have to do it enough to make it habitual.

[Bellend_1010]

that's the crummy part of a lot of these techniques that require a "lot" from you (like visualizations).  you have to do it enough to make it habitual.

Ya but some of these techniques seem just too complicated by the amount written about the why's and the process I just wish they could simplify it a bit more and that way it would be less to think about whilst practising and would be more relaxing to try.

[Xanth]

Ya but some of these techniques seem just too complicated by the amount written about the why's and the process I just wish they could simplify it a bit more and that way it would be less to think about whilst practising and would be more relaxing to try.

Re-write them so that they make sense to you.
That should make it easier for you to follow.

If you're having troubles... re-write it and PM me what you do, I'll happily go over it with you. 

[CFTraveler]

Ok, simply:
Breathe in very slowly.  Verrryy slowwwlyyyy.
As you breath in, feel energy going up your legs, up your back and up to the tip of your head.
Now, exhale slowly.  Again, very very slowly.  SLLLLLOOOOOWWWWLLLLY.
As you exhale, feel warm 'water' trickling down your face, down your chest, all the way to your belly, and imagine it going into your belly button, a little below it, into an imaginary bucket that's right below your belly button. (navel). 
That's it.
Now do it as many times as you like.

Do it as you read, and just keep doing it.  There's no getting up, you just do it while sitting or laying down or however.

[Psan]

So, and this was the key ingredient - I decided I would, with my mind"pull IN" energy from my feet.
5-10 min after I had layed down, after my energy body would get stronger and stronger buzzing yet not uncomfortably, suddenly with an instant i would start getting bodily and thought-wise paralyzed and exit vibrations would hit me (softly) to kick me out.



kind regards,

Paul

Paul/Tiny/Bomber
Congrats and thanks for sharing.

I like your attitude. We must study the process and make it so reliable that it can be used to project at whim. Now there are 1001 methods to project, but one that works every time and for everyone is impossible to find.

It sounds very much like kundalini to me. Looks like you found a way to activate it on will.