Can anyone explain reincarnation?

[Gbob]

Can you have past lifes as animals, plants, microorganisms etc? Also how do you know what you're going to be?

*sorry to post this in the wrong topic. It's just that this is the most popular one. 

[CFTraveler]

Everyone has an opinion about this.  I suggest you 'search' the word reincarnation in this forum and you will find a plethora of opinions.

[Alfera]

i dont want to believe

one time is just enough no reincarnation please i dont wanna come again

[kurtykurt42]

This is one of my favorite posts on reincarnation

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_spiritual_evolution/reincarnation_and_our_spiritual_evolution-t21873.0.html

[Gbob]

Thank you!

[Tayesin]

Reincarnation is simple really. You the Soul wishes to have experiences here in this world. So it disseminates a small portion to enter into the intial construct through the Akasha where it can observe and make choices about what it wishes to experience in a life. The rest is machanics to get awareness into a body. When that body dies the awareness returns to the Akasha to review the life in order to see how it went with tasks it chose, etc. From then most usually decide on another life, so we begin the process again.

The reason we do this is one life only provides the tiniest of available experiences here. The Soul you are wants to experience everything this world has to offer as experience, so it implaces itself here over and over until it is satisified it has done what it set out to do and retains all those experiences within itself. Only when the Soul has done all it wanted will it then ascend that small portion of itself out of this construct and proceed elsewhere for further experiences.

I think it highly probable that experience in this world was first made available by early structures like Rock and Plant, well before animal life arose. So it is very possible for you to have had the experiences of being Rock, Plant, Rodent etc, before moving onto humanoid forms when they became available to have the experience of.

Hope I haven't made that confusing to read folks.

[CFTraveler]

Reincarnation is simple really. You the Soul wishes to have experiences here in this world. So it disseminates a small portion to enter into the intial construct through the Akasha where it can observe and make choices about what it wishes to experience in a life. The rest is machanics to get awareness into a body. When that body dies the awareness returns to the Akasha to review the life in order to see how it went with tasks it chose, etc. From then most usually decide on another life, so we begin the process again.

The reason we do this is one life only provides the tiniest of available experiences here. The Soul you are wants to experience everything this world has to offer as experience, so it implaces itself here over and over until it is satisified it has done what it set out to do and retains all those experiences within itself. Only when the Soul has done all it wanted will it then ascend that small portion of itself out of this construct and proceed elsewhere for further experiences.

I think it highly probable that experience in this world was first made available by early structures like Rock and Plant, well before animal life arose. So it is very possible for you to have had the experiences of being Rock, Plant, Rodent etc, before moving onto humanoid forms when they became available to have the experience of.

Hope I haven't made that confusing to read folks.

It was almost poetic, actually.

[kurtykurt42]

Reincarnation is simple really. You the Soul wishes to have experiences here in this world. So it disseminates a small portion to enter into the intial construct through the Akasha where it can observe and make choices about what it wishes to experience in a life. The rest is machanics to get awareness into a body. When that body dies the awareness returns to the Akasha to review the life in order to see how it went with tasks it chose, etc.

Does the portion of energy we disseminate into a physical body differ between individuals?

What if there are fewer people on a planet then there are souls who wish to enter them? I would suppose the souls are placed on a waiting list or must choose another planet.

From then most usually decide on another life, so we begin the process again.

When we decide on another life can we disseminate some of our energy into a physical body?

Or do we have to put 100% of our energy into the body?

[Panthau]

I think that reincarnations are nothing we can easily understand with our minds,
because we think in a time frame, where no time frame exists. So if theres no time,
the "mothersoul" (who may have more reincarnations at once) may experience them all
at once and we can go further after this life to something new.

But again, i think our mind doesnt have the proper mechanics to understand this as a whole.

[kurtykurt42]

I think that reincarnations are nothing we can easily understand with our minds,
because we think in a time frame, where no time frame exists...

Advanced Mathematics isn't something we can all easily understand with our minds.

Nevertheless, some people enjoy the challenge of understanding what others cannot.

But again, i think our mind doesnt have the proper mechanics to understand this as a whole.

You shouldn't underestimate human potential.

[Gbob]

If we are able to decide on another life then why would anyone want to become a murderer, terrorist, victim etc. What sort of experience would this gain?

[Panthau]

You shouldn't underestimate human potential.

Maybe you´re talking about our inner source, the "soul" or that consciousness that
can "leave" our body. This one can for sure understand it, but i dont think the humand mind can.

[Tayesin]

Does the portion of energy we disseminate into a physical body differ between individuals?

What if there are fewer people on a planet then there are souls who wish to enter them? I would suppose the souls are placed on a waiting list or must choose another planet.

When we decide on another life can we disseminate some of our energy into a physical body?

Or do we have to put 100% of our energy into the body?

All good questions Kurty.

It's all the same energy really, but each does have a unique feel-signature to them, which is why we recognise each other when Here.

Fewer people than souls wanting experience would create a baby boom I think, just like after each major war when souls reincarnate quickly.

Yes. You the Soul can disseminate portions into as many puppet-bodies as you wish.

Maybe not 100% percent. I don't think something so dense and miniature as the human body is yet capable of sustaining so much energy and awareness. Although at a lower level of awareness (higher-self) it is highly possible and more than likely that this is the next step in human experience Here. So you don't have to, and probably never do insert the fullness of Soul into a flesh body.. just a small portion of it is all that's needed to drive the puppet around Here.

[interception]

Yes. You the Soul can disseminate portions into as many puppet-bodies as you wish.

Maybe not 100% percent. I don't think something so dense and miniature as the human body is yet capable of sustaining so much energy and awareness. Although at a lower level of awareness (higher-self) it is highly possible and more than likely that this is the next step in human experience Here. So you don't have to, and probably never do insert the fullness of Soul into a flesh body.. just a small portion of it is all that's needed to drive the puppet around Here.

5 portions? Unlimited portions? 

I choose to think of the system in this way: that the portion of energy incarnating in a human body is self contained (a separate entity) from the higher self for the duration and, upon death, is then re-assimilated into the higher self.  This could possibly mean "giving up" your earthly identity, which many people seem to fear. 

[kurtykurt42]

Maybe you´re talking about our inner source, the "soul" or that consciousness that
can "leave" our body. This one can for sure understand it, but i dont think the humand mind can.

I don't know... Tayesin and several others in this forum seem to understand it pretty well. 

I choose to think of the system in this way: that the portion of energy incarnating in a human body is self contained (a separate entity) from the higher self for the duration and, upon death, is then re-assimilated into the higher self.  This could possibly mean "giving up" your earthly identity, which many people seem to fear. 

You make it sound like we are Borg.

Each of us are unique and different. I think we are given the option to re-assimilate our energy into our higher selves in order to better understand who we are and where we come from. But I also believe we have the option of leaving anytime we want.

[interception]

I don't know... Tayesin and several others in this forum seem to understand it pretty well. 

You make it sound like we are Borg.

Each of us are unique and different. I think we are given the option to re-assimilate our energy into our higher selves in order to better understand who we are and where we come from. But I also believe we have the option of leaving anytime we want.

The Borg?  No man! 

We are unique and different indeed. I said *possibly* you might have to give up your identity. I suppose re-assimilating with.... well, your true self basically... maybe merging is a better word for it. You merge with your real self. It is like bringing the pieces of a puzzle back together.... ah words fail me. 

[T.L.]

  I can't talk about being other organisms as I don't have any experience with that. As far as other human lives yes. Some will shrug this idea about reincarnation off as wishful thinking due to not wanting to think about their mortality. For someone like me that is funny and ironic as I wish reincarnation didn't exist as I would not willfully want to be human again. I know myself pretty well even my non-physical self and even while out I do not fear not being able to get back into my body, I fear being back in the physical heh. I know that I would not willfully want to come back to the physical once I am done, but I know it will happen again.

  I mentioned before that I have memories from things and places I have never done or been in this life. So in my experience I know not only is it a possibility but inevitable, it doesn't revolve around will or intent either. I'm sure if you made the choice to come back you could, but even if you do not want to there is a great chance it will not be your choice. There is a chance that you can be in a cycle that you can not get out of unless you realize you are in such a cycle, even then would take a lot of learning one could not acquire in just one lifetime. Yet, still there may be a chance it's an infinite cycle and it's a necessity that no matter what you are just sucked back in over and over and over again. Time does not exist in the non-physical and the concept of time seems to just fade away, and reincarnation doesn't have to be sequential like for instance if you day in 2010 and are reincarnated it doesn't mean you will be born after 2010, you may be born in 1982. Now let's talk about perceived time.

  Let's say you have a non-physical friend and you just died, you are reincarnated then die and are back in the non-physical. The friend waited for you and to him/her/it no time has passed or it felt like it didn't take very long at all. That's the type of thing we are dealing with here. So in between incarnations it could feel like a minute or couple of years all depending on how you perceive it. Which really sucks for me if I expect a very extended vacation from the physical. There are some things beyond our control, and there are some things that just are.

[kurtykurt42]

  I mentioned before that I have memories from things and places I have never done or been in this life. So in my experience I know not only is it a possibility but inevitable, it doesn't revolve around will or intent either. I'm sure if you made the choice to come back you could, but even if you do not want to there is a great chance it will not be your choice. There is a chance that you can be in a cycle that you can not get out of unless you realize you are in such a cycle, even then would take a lot of learning one could not acquire in just one lifetime. Yet, still there may be a chance it's an infinite cycle and it's a necessity that no matter what you are just sucked back in over and over and over again. Time does not exist in the non-physical and the concept of time seems to just fade away, and reincarnation doesn't have to be sequential like for instance if you day in 2010 and are reincarnated it doesn't mean you will be born after 2010, you may be born in 1982. Now let's talk about perceived time.

What Tayesin was saying is that when we die we are able to take small amounts of energy and put it into physical bodies. Within that small amount of energy there are memories. So when you deposit your energy into another human he might be able to access your memories, the memories of those before you, and those before him.

  Let's say you have a non-physical friend and you just died, you are reincarnated then die and are back in the non-physical. The friend waited for you and to him/her/it no time has passed or it felt like it didn't take very long at all. That's the type of thing we are dealing with here. So in between incarnations it could feel like a minute or couple of years all depending on how you perceive it. Which really sucks for me if I expect a very extended vacation from the physical. There are some things beyond our control, and there are some things that just are.

Time exists in every dimension but in different ways. Beings in these higher dimensions need to communicate and that takes time. Traveling at the speed of thought through space and time as energy is not something that can easily be explained to people. Which is why most spirits who who come in contact with humans don't bother to try explaining it. They just say "there is no time".

[T.L.]

"Time exists in every dimension but in different ways. Beings in these higher dimensions need to communicate and that takes time. Traveling at the speed of thought through space and time as energy is not something that can easily be explained to people. Which is why most spirits who who come in contact with humans don't bother to try explaining it. They just say "there is no time"."

No offense but linear time is a physical concept, and that is what I was trying to get through. Once you leave the physical the concept of linear time is useless.

[kurtykurt42]

How can you be 100% certain that linear time is a physical concept?

Linear time is a concept where by time is seen sequentially, as a series of events that are leading toward something: beginning, and an end. In Newtonain theory it is something absolute in reality, regardless of human perception. In my above post i used communication as an example of something that requires a beginning and an end. Therefore, there is not enough information to say with any certainty that the concept of linear time is useless and does not exist outside this physical reality.

[Panthau]

I don't know... Tayesin and several others in this forum seem to understand it pretty well. 

if i would not have understood somethink, i wouldve asked.
its oppinions and arguments were talking about (at least thats what i thought).

instead it seems like ive hurt your feelings because of your sarcasm.

[T.L.]

"How can you be 100% certain that linear time is a physical concept?
Linear time is a concept where by time is seen sequentially, as a series of events that are leading toward something: beginning, and an end. In Newtonain theory it is something absolute in reality,"

Because in my experiences in the non-physical all time when observing the physical can merge, where the past present and future are all now. Any time in regards to the physical can be accessed, and it doesn't seem to have either a beginning or end. A lot of things I have observed in the non-physical are really hard to articulate into words, but from what I have seen and observed linear time is not only useless in the non-physical, it's all but obsolete. In the physical though, for obvious purposes it's very useful. It's hard to think of a future without it but that is because we are all thinking in physical terms.

[kurtykurt42]

Because in my experiences in the non-physical all time when observing the physical can merge, where the past present and future are all now.

So, if you are out of body and you talk to an entity and then go far away and talk to a different entity, which one did you talk to first?
Time needs to pass for you to talk to one and then leave and talk to another.

Also, how do you keep track of how old you are? Or where and when to meet someone?

Any time in regards to the physical can be accessed, and it doesn't seem to have either a beginning or end. A lot of things I have observed in the non-physical are really hard to articulate into words, but from what I have seen and observed linear time is not only useless in the non-physical, it's all but obsolete. In the physical though, for obvious purposes it's very useful. It's hard to think of a future without it but that is because we are all thinking in physical terms.

We also have to remember that when we astral project all memories are downloaded into our brains immediately upon the return of our consciousness. This can distort time and things can appear to be not what they seem.

[T.L.]

"We also have to remember that when we astral project all memories are downloaded into our brains immediately upon the return of our consciousness."

That's an assumption.

"So, if you are out of body and you talk to an entity and then go far away and talk to a different entity, which one did you talk to first?
Time needs to pass for you to talk to one and then leave and talk to another."

  Far away is all a matter of opinion, there might not really be any true separation. Keep in mind I'm talking about a field/dimension [however you want to describe it] of time. You seem to be talking about events and in which order they occur in, and the labels we attach to them to determine sequence. What ever way you want to look at it, you really must experience extended times in the non-physical to see why I have the views that I do. A lot of our concepts here in the physical all but go out the window upon entering the non-physical. It really is a difficult thing to attach logic to a situation or existence that is purely illogical. What I mean is about viewing the physical from the non-physical and how all time is accessible in the now while in the non-physical. I probably worded that badly but while out in the non physical it is possible to access/view any time in the physical. So you could say view the 1800's, or even the 3000's yet you are living in the 2000's, from a physical view point that is not probable, yet how illogical it may seem it is a reality. But if we are going to talk about separation of events, in what is perceived time that's a whole different story as I mentioned above. Everyone perceives time differently. For instance you are at work and minutes seem to take hours to pass... so for you time is moving slow. Then a coworker comes up to you and says man time is passing very fast tonight, so for him time is passing fast.

  Even in the physical 'time' is subjective and depends upon the person perceiving it. This aspect is even more-so in the non-physical. Some perceive no time passing yet in the physical hundreds of years and different eras have already passed. It may seem like days in the non physical to a projector but in the physical only 2 minutes have passed. The opposite can be true where a projector feels like he is only out for a minute yet an hour or two passed. Perception of time is just a tool that loses most of it's meaning in the non-physical.

[kurtykurt42]

That's an assumption.

What we are talking about has no facts. There is no evidence and no proof of anything. The only thing that we can do is experience for ourselves and try to learn from others experiences.

What ever way you want to look at it, you really must experience extended times in the non-physical to see why I have the views that I do. A lot of our concepts here in the physical all but go out the window upon entering the non-physical. It really is a difficult thing to attach logic to a situation or existence that is purely illogical. What I mean is about viewing the physical from the non-physical and how all time is accessible in the now while in the non-physical. I probably worded that badly but while out in the non physical it is possible to access/view any time in the physical. So you could say view the 1800's, or even the 3000's yet you are living in the 2000's, from a physical view point that is not probable, yet how illogical it may seem it is a reality.

That's what i was saying in my previous post.

"Traveling at the speed of thought through space and time as energy is not something that can easily be explained to people. Which is why most spirits who come in contact with humans don't bother to try explaining it. They just say "there is no time"."