Chakras don't exist.

[Mystic Cloud]

I disagree Turkey, I think it is good that someone provokes people, since we all tend to fall into familiar patterns and keep repeating them into an eternal Limbo... That is why we occasionally need someone to provoke us to do something different...

If someone finds this disturbing then you are letting your own ego interfere with you... So basically it is your own fault [xx(]

Children especially tend in a specific age to start arguing against everything you say, so if you act in the same way to them as to this thread, you will probably just get lost in an arguing with them that you will loose, because they are just arguing because of arguing itself

[Ramiel]

quote:Originally posted by acidmax120


Chakras prove nothing and are nothing but some illogical belief.

The fact that you have the AUDACITY to state - without any proof or fact - of their inexistance, despite being uncovered and explored by the ancient Vedas is remarkable.

Try and open your mind.

[Goldenshadow]

Everything exists. Nothing exists. End of story...

[Akensai]

Heh, I think this is a chase of whatever works for you. If you don't belief chakras to exist, fine. I think there possibly is some truth to chakras or it would be one of the biggest hoax all times

I say possibly because I haven't gone to great lengths to work whit them.

Anyway be careful whit your jugement, playing around a few times whit energy doesn't make you an expert on chakras (if they exist or not), you must understand I don't care either way, belief it or not, but disbelief of chakras on so little experience could make lose some important opportunities.

[jason]

I have found through personal experience that chakras do seem to exist.when I first started working with them,I was trying to activate the lowest one,when I suddenly saw/heard a very vivid picture of a swirling vortex of red energy.it was sort of 'roaring' (for want of better term).

another time,I activated all the chakras-lowest to highest-and got major activation in the heart region-my heart felt much larger,and felt like it was going to beat right out of my chest.I got up to the brow chakra,and my 3rd eye opened right up![:O]I saw these wierd blue wavy lines,like a was 'seeing'the vibrations.I activated the crown chakra at nearly the same time as the brow,and left my body,and floated around the room!!

I couldn't get away from my body,and I felt the very strong pull back to it (this is why I like to 'shoot' myself out of my body when I can).I was having vision and movement problems,being so close to the physical body,so I went back into it.

I've been getting lazy for the past 2 years or so,about 'clearing the cobwebs',so I haven't had any obe's, but I've just started again,and use hemi-sync to propel the body into trance fatster than usual.

I keep everyone posted as to what happens[]

[Mystic Cloud]

Hey Jason!

How far do the blue lines appear? Because I can see some light blue waves moving if I stare long enough on some place. Usually I see them sprout up from trees into the air... Was wondering if that was the same....

[Thing]

in chine people use chakras to heal the body, you know... they put some strange things in the skin, needles, oils... whatever, and they put them in special parts of the body.

why not asking if telekenisis is true, that someone could make a video and show if it is true

[jason]

I don't think it's the same thing...

but, I see those too![]

when I was a kid,I asked my mom "what are those lines all over the place?".She said "what 'lines'?!".I never brought it up again,cause I wierded her out![]

I see them sprouting from trees usually,and they go up into the air as far as I can follow them.sometimes,if I concentrate,I can see other things, like 'air disturbances',or dark areas,or shimmering waves coming off trees,moving up into the sky around trees.I can also sometimes tell if a tree is alive or dead,if it has rings of energy coming up the trunk from the ground or not.I have to be in the proper 'state of mind' to be able to do some of those things-usually it's easier if I've been walking in the woods off of the trail for a while,just kind of wandering,and my mind is calm.

The brow chakra lines I descibed in my last post appeared all across my field of vision-I couldn't see anything else.It's not the same thing,but it's very interesting that you would bring up the thing about lines sprouting from trees.I've never heard of anyone else who saw that stuff,and I don't understand what they are.some kind of auric vision no doubt.

[Tombo]

Hey Jason

Interesting stuff! I read a book "The secret Life of Nature" were people describe that they see fairies, brownies, spirits and other creatures. Did you ever see something like that?

[projektatma]

hello,
i haven't read everyone's reply to this, so someone might have already pointed this out.  if so, my apologies.
but one possible reason why acidmax can feel chakra energy everywhere in his body equally is because there are way, way more than 7, or i believe i've read someone say 21.  there are the 7 main chakras, but the vedas (if you don't know, this is the ancient indian texts that discribe the chakras, among other things, like medical systems, the science of God-union, self-realization, etc.) talk about there being over 7200 chakras throughout the body.  also, if you take into account the meridians, and acupressure points of the taoist explination of the body, there is another explination of the energy flow throughout the body.
i don't expect this to convince acidmax of anything.  the initial post seems like a very confrontational way of stirring up a flame war.  but i did want to put that out there for anyone who might be discouraged in their search by this type of posturing.  as a lot of others have said, belief in chakras is not nessicary.  this is true, and personal proof, and irrefutable proof are two completely different things.  if i have proven to myself that i am green with pink polka dots, it doesn't mean that anyone else will see me as green with pink polka dots.  they might, but it is immaterial to me and my belief.  and my belief is immaterial to the truth.  the truth may be that i am in fact green with pink polka dots, and no one else is perceptive enough to see it.  or i might be crazy, and just think that i'm green with pink polka dots.  whatever the case, one person's perception does not constitute absolute proof.  there is not a way, with the technology we have right now to prove or disprove the existence of any of the chakras (at least not to my knowlege).  this basically renders the discussion of their existence or non existence to be irrelivant.  give it a try, if you can find something out for yourself, great.  if not, it doesn't mean that you have proven anything other than you didn't find anything.
anyway, that's my two cents.

[jason]

tombodenmann-I haven't seen anything like that so far,though that would be really cool.I've heard that in england,along the 'ley lines',at centres where they connect it might be possible to see that stuff,due to natural doorways to the astral planes,where those types of thoughtforms spring into existance.

[LogoRat]

Its funny how some people think they are more intelligent when they are sceptic to these things.
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What makes you think you exist?
Because you know right!?
You live it, you breath it.

What makes you think some parts of the universe dont exist just because you dont know about them!?

Everything exists, its just a matter of focus.

A user on a computer doesnt have to learn everything about the computer to operate it, it works almost automatically.
You press a key and you get a result on the screen.

Now, there are some people that wants to find out the mechanics about how these things work. So they look more closely, study information about it.

Its the same with the physical world, some wants to find out more.

Obviously you dont!
Thats your choice!
But dont come here and think you know it all!

Personally..... i think you are a n00b on reality!

[James S]

I can't believe nobodies mentioned this yet.....

The term "chakra" is originally from Sanskrit and means "wheel".
Why?
Because thats what they LOOK like!
Also the fact that it is a Sanskrit term should give you some indication of just how long humans have known about the chakras.

The chakras, or energery centers, of the human body are called "wheels" because people who are capable of seeing the human energy body, capable of seeing auras, see the primary chakras in particular as being spinning wheels of different coloured light. And that's exactly what brought the term as we know it about.

As to why then it has not yet been quantified or proven by science, well, science is still catching up with people who have the ability to see the energy body. To date, with a fairly new medical imaging machine called a SQUID (Supercoductive QUantum Imaging Device), doctors have now found that the human energy field, the aura,  does actually exist, though the SQUID is is only able to measure this field on a cellular level.

Ignore Kirlian photography or "aura cameras", they only produce an interpreted picture based on the skins electro-galvanic response (a measurement of the skins resistance and capacitance which can vary deending on health or stress levels).

Give it time though. Now that the SQUID exists, it will probably not be long before medical science is able to actually measure the chakras, as they're just starting to know what to look for and how to look for it.

Regards,
James.

[acidmax120]

Someone told me that once you "enable" the third eye, multiple things can happen. Then explained about the other chakras.

Whats funny is that my experiments have proven they don't exist.

I can focus on my Pineal glad/third eye and get an OBE everytime. I can focus on an imaginary starwars geek, then get an OBE. I can focus, on  nothing and get an OBE.

Chakras prove nothing and are nothing but some illogical belief.

I suggest that the OBE nubs don't get into the "chakra" joke.

Believe in chakras? Think you can prove something[]? Go ahead.