Quick Phasing Question

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flowdiggity

Hey y'all,

If one is phasing properly they feel no "exit" symptoms, correct?  Or is this different for everyone?  For example...  If someone was using the trampoline rundown and phased - they would just transition right into that scene (which would be F2 I believe) with nothing in between?  

I am asking because I am trying to switch to phasing coming from the old projection methods/theories (mainly Astral Dynamics).  I had mild success with the old methods.  Now when I am trying to phase, I seem to be stuck with these exit symptoms.

Do people still get into the trance state while trying to phase?..the place with all the popping sounds and seeing through eyelids.  What does the phasing model say the trance state is?  Still physical right?  Is that wider F1??  If anyone still gets in this state often... what do you do to take it to the next level with phasing?  Do people still have exit symptoms as if they were leaving the body?  Or does this go away for most people after switching to phasing.

Should I be changing something, or just continuing as I were - but keeping in mind that I'm not really projecting to plane or anything.  Rather, I am just inside me head.  

I've been reading posts and the newsletters, and I'm starting to understand the Frank's phasing model... but I still feel like I'm still off in left field.  I still can't say I have had a full blown experience with projection or phasing... so maybe that's why.  

Thanks to anyone who can set these things straight for me!  It really was originally going to be 1 quick phasing question... I swear.  I Don't know what happened.  :wink:

Thanks again,
Kyle

Ben K

QuoteIf one is phasing properly they feel no "exit" symptoms, correct?
Correct.

What are you doing when you lay down to phase? Are you doing the noticing exercise? Mental rundown?
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flowdiggity

Yeap, I'll lay down and relax for 5-10 minutes.  Then I'll start looking inward/noticing.  I get lots of activity very quickly, and it isn't long before I start to have short little dreams (if anyone knows what I'm talking about).  I then do the mental rundown.  After this many times I'll fall asleep, but otherwise I "wake up" in that old trance state.  I can't seem to phase into the rundown scene like I read about people doing.

mactombs

QuoteYeap, I'll lay down and relax for 5-10 minutes. Then I'll start looking inward/noticing. I get lots of activity very quickly, and it isn't long before I start to have short little dreams (if anyone knows what I'm talking about). I then do the mental rundown. After this many times I'll fall asleep, but otherwise I "wake up" in that old trance state. I can't seem to phase into the rundown scene like I read about people doing.

I relate to this. This is what happens to me more often than not. Except for yesterday, I actually was doing the rundown walking through a desert I have a picture of, when all of a sudden out of nowhere these guys in a weird helicopter/hanglider grabbed me out of the sand (but the sand sucked my boots off). It was neat, but then I jumped to FoC1 realizing that I'd made the switch (albeit in an unexpected way).

Also, in those times that you wake up in that old trance state, you might want to check to make sure you really did wake up and it just doesn't seem that way. I've been tricked many times before.
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