Did I have an Out Of Body Experiance?

[frenchs105]

can't figure out if i had an astral projection or not or if t was just a dream. i am at work and im pretty tired and i was trying not to fall asleep and kept noddin off but kept keeping myself awake and then go to the point well i fell asleep but straight into sleep paralysis and kept trying to come out of it for a minute or two and kept trying to stand up out of the chair or do whatever to wake up so i wouldnt get in trouble and then i pushed with everything i had to stand up out of the chair to wake up and i stood up but was still kind of squating and instantly turned around and could see myself sitting in the chair in what i was wearing and everything looked the same and my eyes were wide open just staring straight foward, but i thought to myself i think im astral projecting but if im that means im asleep, what ifmy eyes are actually closed? and i could here somebody talking coming down the hall and i saw them down the hall and i tried to get back into my body by sitting into it but it was really hard and its like i had to force myself into it. and then i woke up and lifted my head up and looked down the hall and nobody was there. it felt just like a regular dream though when i think back about it. it happened about 45 mins ago. sooo what happened?

[Xanth]

You seem to have a preconceived idea of what an OBE *should* be when compared to a dream.

Forget everything you know and come at this from a blank slate... now just enjoy the experiences.

Know that you were consciously aware while experiencing another reality that wasn't this physical reality.  That's all you need to know for now.

Log your experiences... and go from there. 

[frenchs105]

sooooo i was then? lol

[AstralCody]

You will know. I had a few dreamy OBE's before I had my first 100% conscious and aware OBE. I wondered if my dreamy OBE's where indeed OBE's. I believe they were! Remember it all comes down to awareness levels and memory!

[Bedeekin]

It sounds like you had 'an out of body experience' as in... you perceived yourself outside of your physical self.

[frenchs105]

when you actually wake up and awake in physical world and you remember back to your OBE is it susspossed to feel like it was just a dream and not feel real?

[Bedeekin]

The reality of your experience depends upon your focus.

For a start you were at work... not a very calm or meditative place to have a profound experience.

It's logical to assume that you were too invested (consciously) in your physical surroundings. As you said... you were trying not to get into trouble, which is in essence going to keep one eye on the physical and the other in the nonphysical. Maybe if you weren't at work and instead this was in a guilt free environment you would have all your mental focus on your OOBE.

another way of understanding what may occur during partial nonphysical awareness is similar to when you are reading or watching something and someone is telling you something... you tend to only focus on one of those sensory inputs at the risk of the other.. if you to listen to the person you will miss important information on the TV or you will skim the words of the book. This doesn't mean the TV image wasn't a TV image or that the words in the book weren't real.

take it a bit further and notice that you can sometimes read large portions of a book and realise you weren't taking any of it in because you were maybe thinking of something else. This doesn't mean you weren't reading the words... it's just that your intent was focused somewhere else.

There isn't any 'supposed to be' in the field of non-physical awareness and exploration. Not yet anyway.

[Xanth]

when you actually wake up and awake in physical world and you remember back to your OBE is it susspossed to feel like it was just a dream and not feel real?

If you can tell me exactly what a "dream" is... then perhaps you can begin to answer your own question.

At this point in this physical reality... humanity really has no idea what a dream REALLY is.

So you can understand that is sounds kind of silly when people ask "was it *JUST* a dream?", because nobody even knows what that is.

Everything feels real.  All my non-physical experiences feel all equally real.  Whether I'm consciously aware or not... they all feel 100% as real as this physical reality experience does.

[Bedeekin]

But... Xanth has put a lot of time and effort into his nonphysical excursions... incursions... whatever.

Same here.

I have been wondering about your experience frenchs105...

I used to have many RTZ projections... but as I got older... I started to experience a second dream-like awareness that crept through and ran simultaneously with my RTZ projection. I would be OOB at my girlfriend's house for instance and simultaneously be experiencing another projection that was more 'dream-like' in nature. That being I was totally wrapped up in the illogical narrative.

These incurring dreams eventually became dominant... then they lost their narrative and became projections.

I think that although we don't EXACTLY know what a dream is... we can recognise WHAT a dream is by its qualities.

[Contenteo]

Yeah, IMO, you had a great quite normal F21 projection.    I had one just like that way back when, when I still owned this great big bean bag chair.

Like Beedkin, most of my early projections we're into this RTZ-like state. A good deal still are.
Like a daydream, your projections, at the lower levels exist in the local of your mind, and to a unaware projecting brain, the most local place is the area you were just before you passed out.

I think its rather humorous projection, you imagined someone coming, and then got self aware, that you weren't in your body. This bothered you enough to attempt to jump back into it, but that didn't work to a great degree.
Almost comic strippable. It's a wonderful start. You'll be able to face all sorts of subconscious fears will in this state of mind.

Cheers,
Contenteo