"Ghosts" and the astral world.

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Mr.PumperNickle

I'm talking about people who have never moved on,how can you interact with them like can you do a huge gigantic soul retrieval for all the Soldiers at Gettysburg, stuck in thier emotional loops of hell?
And all the Jews at the concentration Camps and all the Africans in Somalia because of the war and famine they wen't through, and the Vietnamese and Cambodians when millions of them died because of harsh revolutionary wars? Is it possible to bring all thier spirits to a higher consciousness?   
So close but so far to projecting. It'll come one day, i'll just have to wait.

light487

I don't know really a lot about this but from what I do understand, I don't think it can really work that way due to the nature of the focus of awareness for those people. They are in a place of "subjective" awareness that is made "objective" by their perception of the "place" they are in. They are trapped by their own minds, so to speak. Some of them may have already "escaped", others may take a while to escape and still more may a very long time to escape. From what I understand of what Frank Kepple says, each "individual" exists in an area that they have "chosen" subjectively. "Like attracts like", so bunchs of them may end up together.. but remember that this is non-physical, so just because they may have all been in, for example, Cambodia that doesn't necessarily mean that they are "together" in their subjective afterlife realities.

To free them each one at an individual objective level within their subjective shared space(s) would need to start to question the reality(es) they are objectively perceiving. At that point, a "helper" could come along and attempt to "guide" them out of the prison they have created for themselves.. but to do it all in one go for even 2 people, let alone hundreds, thousands or millions, just doesn't seem possible unless, due to the objective experiences of all the people grouped within a subjective area suddenly all started to question their reality, it would be nigh impossible to shake the foundations of their subjective reality.

Anyway.. like I say.. I am not really too experienced in these matters.. so I don't really know for sure.

Mr.PumperNickle

Oh, I guess i'll just work on them when I leave this shell and tune my consciousnes. Then i'll have all the "time" I need.
So close but so far to projecting. It'll come one day, i'll just have to wait.

Everlasting

Quote from: Mr.PumperNickle on September 09, 2011, 15:25:25
Oh, I guess i'll just work on them when I leave this shell and tune my consciousnes. Then i'll have all the "time" I need.
That would be a "waste of time"
Priests of hippocratic love talk of peace and Christ, Power is their only goal. Now they all shall die.

SirMike

They are on a different awareness level then we are during APs, but there are lots of different awareness levels.. that being said
you can talk to them if you are on the right awareness level.. but that is most of the times random.. or at least in some cases.